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Thoughts on a Pinarello Prince?

Old 01-28-23, 12:02 PM
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Thoughts on a Pinarello Prince?

I'm considering buying a Pinarello Prince.
I ride for exercise, health, and fun. I do not race (or do much climbing).
I am currently a happy/satisfied owner of a Trek Domane SL5 (Shimano 105 endurance bike). My goal is to use the Domane as a gravel and trainer bike and the Pinarello primarily for my road rides.
Because I don't race, most of what I'm looking for in a bike are more in the "hobby" category/motivation (vs. motivated by performance or extreme practicality).
That being said, I'm looking for an Ultegra level groupset with Di2 electronic shifting, and an integrated headset. Price point in the $5-6k range. Planning on upgrade wheelset in the future.
Looking for an all round/endurance bike that's a bit more aggressive than the Domane's endurance geometry (but not too racy/uncomfortable). I don't see my self having the time to ride more than 2 hrs on a regular basis.
That being said, what do you guys think of the Pinarello Prince? Do any of you own one? What are the pro's and cons? What else should I consider? (have looked at Cervello, Canyon, etc. The Domane is a perfect bike for me, but I don't really want another one lol).
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I'm sure you've considered just getting a 2nd set of road wheels for the Domane and upgrading the groupset to Di2?
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Prince looks nice. A tad more aggressive fit than your Domane, but not much. Can you try it before you buy it?

Pinarellos's are few around here, but there are some around. If it's the same there, then you'll be a little higher on the status level than us lesser people on more common brands in the USA like Trek, Specialized, Giant or Cannondale.

I might consider the seat post looks profiled, so you'll have to stick with whatever Pinarello makes for that if you ever need to change. And that integrated stem might be the same issue too. But if you never have to or want to change them, then they should be good till you crave a new bike again.
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I donít know about the current one, but a few years back when I was looking for my first bike the prince didnt have the best reviews, and it seemed like the price was high for what it came with. I remember it specifically saying heavy and slow to respond.

You being a captain now, donít settle for the prince, if you are going pinarello, get the dogma.


As the first responder said, go take it for a test ride. I know you are riding for fitness and not performance, so over all comfort should be your main concern. You may not like the geometry. And if you have to to put a **** ton of spacers under the stem to make it work for you, nothing wrong with that, but the bike wonít look as elegant as the picture you posted.
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If all you are looking for is a bit more aggressive geometry, why not just move the spacers over the stem or flip the stem over? Then get a Di2 set and new wheels for your Domaine.
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If all you are looking for is a bit more aggressive geometry, why not just move the spacers over the stem or flip the stem over? Then get a Di2 set and new wheels for your Domaine.
Why not?

Because he wants a new bike and can afford it. Good a reason as any to buy a bike. So, why not?

I love the blue Prince. The model has received some good reviews, and the color is really good looking. Was tempted at one time myself.
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No give in the seat, very stiff. Good for shorter races. I decided against it. YMMV
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Old 01-29-23, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
Why not?

Because he wants a new bike and can afford it. Good a reason as any to buy a bike. So, why not?

I love the blue Prince. The model has received some good reviews, and the color is really good looking. Was tempted at one time myself.
Well if it's all about the new bike bug or n+1, by all means go for it. It just sounds like he could get what he wants by making changes to his Domaine which isn't exactly antiquated.

The info I provided will help him keep his options open.
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I'm sure you've considered just getting a 2nd set of road wheels for the Domane and upgrading the groupset to Di2?
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If all you are looking for is a bit more aggressive geometry, why not just move the spacers over the stem or flip the stem over? Then get a Di2 set and new wheels for your Domaine.
I definitely considered upgrading the Domane (in fact, I shopped Di2 upgrades and wheels). In the end, I decided against extensive/expensive upgrades on the 105 bike. I'd feel better about spending money on an Ultegra level set vs. a 105 set. I also don't want to go gravel riding on (relatively for me) expensive equipment. It does get banged up. That, and it would be nice to have a bike to stay on the trainer as well. Most of all, it would be nice to have a second bike in case something breaks/goes wrong on one.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post

You being a captain now, donít settle for the prince, if you are going pinarello, get the dogma.
Nice try
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I have a rim brake Marvel (and a Dogma 60.1) and the Marvel is my primary ride. It replaced a Domane and there is no comparison between the two. The Marvel is an absolute joy to ride, especially on longer rides. It has several thousands of miles on it and still rides as smoothly as the day I bought it. Both of the tris Iím doing this summer are very hilly and Iíll actually be taking my 11-32 Marvel instead of my 12-25 Dogma.

It may not be a Dogma but it is still very much a Pinarello. Im actually thinking about upgrading the Marvel from Ultegra 6800 to Di2 or Campy EPS because I like the bike so much and know I wonít be able to find another fully carbon bike with a high quality groupset at a reasonable price right now.
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Originally Posted by GhostRider62 View Post
No give in the seat, very stiff. Good for shorter races. I decided against it. YMMV
Yeah... I wonder how that will feel. I've only ever ridden the Domane and it has the "Iso couplers" (or whatever they are called) to make for a comfortable ride. I guess I'll find out. For rides over 2 hours, I was planning on still using the Domane.
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Originally Posted by Metallifan33 View Post
I definitely considered upgrading the Domane (in fact, I shopped Di2 upgrades and wheels). In the end, I decided against extensive/expensive upgrades on the 105 bike. I'd feel better about spending money on an Ultegra level set vs. a 105 set. I also don't want to go gravel riding on (relatively for me) expensive equipment. It does get banged up. That, and it would be nice to have a bike to stay on the trainer as well. Most of all, it would be nice to have a second bike in case something breaks/goes wrong on one.
I replaced the 105 in my SL5 with U Di2. Gave me what I want, and that kept me from buying the Prince. But, Iím not a captain and like my roads paved.
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I replaced the 105 in my SL5 with U Di2. Gave me what I want, and that kept me from buying the Prince. But, I’m not a captain and like my roads paved.
Oh nice... Did you do the work yourself? When I priced it out, I just couldn't justify it... but I may in the future (although I may go 105 for the old bike).
Gravel riding is a nice option to go riding with friends and family that are too scared to ride around cars
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When I upgrade, Iím thinking Wilier Filante custom paint job, or a moots, maybe an allied echo, or a parlee. Maybe all 4. Possibilities are endless.

Note, I am not upgraded until my wife tells me I have to.
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When I upgrade, Iím thinking Wilier Filante custom paint job, or a moots, maybe an allied echo, or a parlee. Maybe all 4. Possibilities are endless.

Note, I am not upgraded until my wife tells me I have to.

My wife thinks I should buy a new car, but my argument with her is I put way more miles on the bike (like I'm sure you do). My 2008 Audi A4 still only has 85,000 miles on it! Why waste money on a car?
No joke, my sim partner was acting knida funny when his wife called when we were in training. Turns out he never told her he was upgrading! She eventually found out; oh well, he tried to hide the $$.
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Originally Posted by Metallifan33 View Post
I definitely considered upgrading the Domane (in fact, I shopped Di2 upgrades and wheels). In the end, I decided against extensive/expensive upgrades on the 105 bike. I'd feel better about spending money on an Ultegra level set vs. a 105 set. I also don't want to go gravel riding on (relatively for me) expensive equipment. It does get banged up. That, and it would be nice to have a bike to stay on the trainer as well. Most of all, it would be nice to have a second bike in case something breaks/goes wrong on one.
You mean you only have one bike? Shhhhh, don't let anybody here know that or you may get banned, LOL! 🤣
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My 2008 Audi A4 still only has 85,000 miles on it! Why waste money on a car?
I seriously agree a new bike is a much better investment than a new car. A new bike will make you want to ride more and stay in shape. A new car will make you want to drive more and get fat!
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Originally Posted by Metallifan33 View Post

My wife thinks I should buy a new car, but my argument with her is I put way more miles on the bike (like I'm sure you do). My 2008 Audi A4 still only has 85,000 miles on it! Why waste money on a car?
No joke, my sim partner was acting knida funny when his wife called when we were in training. Turns out he never told her he was upgrading! She eventually found out; oh well, he tried to hide the $$.

You live in base, I do not. Once I get DCA based, itís about a 2 to 6 hour drive. I plan on getting a miata or something, it will be cheaper than the bike. Priorities.
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Oh nice... Did you do the work yourself? When I priced it out, I just couldn't justify it... but I may in the future (although I may go 105 for the old bike).
Gravel riding is a nice option to go riding with friends and family that are too scared to ride around cars
I did, other than changing the hoses. Had trouble getting the front out, and didnít want to disassemble the IsoSpeed so let the shop do it. Otherwise, easy.
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Bike versus car depends on the bike and car. Nothing better than a fun car. Likewise nothing better than a new bike.

Never knew anyone who had to decide between the two though.
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Bike versus car depends on the bike and car. Nothing better than a fun car. Likewise nothing better than a new bike.

Never knew anyone who had to decide between the two though.
Not all of us are made of money.
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Not all of us are made of money.
True, but if you can and would spring for a $6k bike, its not likely you would have to choose between a bike and car because funds are tight.
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True, but if you can and would spring for a $6k bike, its not likely you would have to choose between a bike and car because funds are tight.
Probably not. But then again, the average new motor vehicle now costs near $40K. A $6K bike is only 15% of that.

Granted I have never spent more than $2,200 on a bike, nor more than $23,000 on a car.
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Iíve been thinking. Dude, get an Allied Echo. Two bikes in one. Pull the wheels off flip the drop outs and it goes from roadie to gravel. You can customize the paint. Itís light, itís dreamy, itís made in Merica and most importantly, Iíll be extremely jealous.
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