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Old 05-16-23, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Just like an old wooden house.
That's sitting in a pond.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
That's sitting in a pond.
... a saltwater pond, full of fish.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
My near death experience finally motivated me to have a will prepared. Execution is this Friday.
Execution? That's a dramatic turn of events. You will be missed, indy.

Oh...wait...nevermind...

That reminds me...I need to find a will and trust attorney. My wife has only been bugging me about it for 5 years. I still have time.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
My near death experience finally motivated me to have a will prepared. Execution is this Friday.
Isn’t execution what your executor does after you croak and it goes through probate and all that?
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
There is one for sale in California for $150,000, so the value (if sea worthy) is likely more than the recovery cost.

But, those old wood boats take a special person to own one. Maintenance is a never ending job, and those old cruising boats are so heavy that most don't want them because they want something a little more sporty unless buying it to cruise and live aboard.
How big is that boat? A friend had a nice 40 footer she paid $100K for and sold it a couple years ago for about the same, I think.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I'm certainly glad it's not in Lake Pleasant or Havasu, and the posting wasn't made in late fall, or I might have been tempted to do something really stupid
I think you have to be a plutocrat or a maritime museum to make a go of a large traditionally built wooden boat. The only guy I know who has one is a serial tech company CEO and very successful venture capitalist and he bought his from David Crosby.

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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
I think you have to be a plutocrat or a maritime museum to make a go of a large traditionally built wooden boat. The only guy I know who has one is a serial tech company CEO and very successful venture capitalist and he bought his from David Crosby.
My bet is that he has others maintain it meticulously and it is always ready to go when he shows up.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
My bet is that he has others maintain it meticulously and it is always ready to go when he shows up.
That's how I'd do it. I'd also leave it docked, because I get seasick on the open ocean.
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Originally Posted by big john
how big is that boat? A friend had a nice 40 footer she paid $100k for and sold it a couple years ago for about the same, i think.
38'.
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Looks like you can get one in Maryland that is actually floating for $15k or less if you know how to negotiate: 38 Feet 1963 American Marine Ketch - 42276 | Antique Boat America. That might be the same boat.

The boats have a length overall of roughly 47' due to the overhangs. Slippage would cost a fair bit more than a boat that it 38' overall.

The one in your area is a whole lot prettier: 1960 American Marine Seawitch Ketch Antique and Classic for sale - YachtWorld
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Originally Posted by t2p
Harden was just about a zero in one earlier game - mind boggling how mentally bad he appeared to be in that game - especially for a seasoned vet / elite player

he played much better after that - but then apparently he disappeared again (?) - I don’t know did not watch the last game

someone (?) allowed Tatum to go for 50+ - again I didn’t watch the game but that’s obviously not good ... Tatum had earlier struggles but he came up big when it counted

Embid appeared to be playing injured or at least was hurting
I watched it. Harden is very emotional sometimes, like when he flops and the refs don't give him the foul shots. That game changed after Harden hit Brown in the face and got a flagrant foul. That was a quick 4 points for Boston and they just opened the gap from there. When Tatum got hot, nobody could stop him, and he was on fire.

Embid looked slow or hurt or something. When they had Horford on him, he didn't do much, but when Horford sat down Embid scored. He's so much bigger and stronger than anyone you'd think he could just muscle his way into the paint, but even when Horford wasn't on him, he didn't seem like he had his good game.

The crowd really got into it and Philly seemed demoralized later.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Looks like you can get one in Maryland that is actually floating for $15k or less if you know how to negotiate: 38 Feet 1963 American Marine Ketch - 42276 | Antique Boat America. That might be the same boat.

The boats have a length overall of roughly 47' due to the overhangs. Slippage would cost a fair bit more than a boat that it 38' overall.

The one in your area is a whole lot prettier: 1960 American Marine Seawitch Ketch Antique and Classic for sale - YachtWorld
I saw that one after I read the post where you mentioned $150k. Very pretty.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
My bet is that he has others maintain it meticulously and it is always ready to go when he shows up.
This guy is mostly retired so he’s pretty hands-on, but not because he has to be.
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There are upsides and downsides(many) to the public option. Yesterday I got an expensive surgery for free; today I waited 2.5 hours for a signature.
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Told this one before. My friend builds houses, the tough ones, customs, whatever. He was building for a guy near Balboa Island, place with a dock, etc. The owner bought a sailboat with a retractable keel, I guess so it can be trailered easily. It was old and the guy dropped it off in his dock and told my friend to take it out whenever he wanted. My friend gets his wife and another couple on the boat and they start heading out through the channel and they notice it's riding low in the water.

Apparently the seals around the keel were leaking and he said it was only a few minutes before they were all floating in the water. They were picked up by another boat and when they got to shore the Coast Guard followed them in and said they had to recover the sunken boat because it was a hazard to navigation. I guess they could see it from their helicopter.

My friend found a recovery service to come and float the thing and since he is a certified diver, he asked if he could save money if he helped, which they agreed to. They tie big airbags to the hull then pump them up with a compressor on the recovery boat.
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Originally Posted by big john
Told this one before. My friend builds houses, the tough ones, customs, whatever. He was building for a guy near Balboa Island, place with a dock, etc. The owner bought a sailboat with a retractable keel, I guess so it can be trailered easily. It was old and the guy dropped it off in his dock and told my friend to take it out whenever he wanted. My friend gets his wife and another couple on the boat and they start heading out through the channel and they notice it's riding low in the water.

Apparently the seals around the keel were leaking and he said it was only a few minutes before they were all floating in the water. They were picked up by another boat and when they got to shore the Coast Guard followed them in and said they had to recover the sunken boat because it was a hazard to navigation. I guess they could see it from their helicopter.

My friend found a recovery service to come and float the thing and since he is a certified diver, he asked if he could save money if he helped, which they agreed to. They tie big airbags to the hull then pump them up with a compressor on the recovery boat.
I've seen boats sink in their slips, and the local recovery company uses inflatables to bring them back up. Cool to watch.
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Picked up the R8000 crankset today.
Ill be going from a 50t to a 53t, so besides a new chain I will have to raise the FD.

Before raising the FD I will have to loosen the cable stop. Does it matter what position the derailer is in? Big ring/ small ring?

Stupid question?
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What in the hell have you guys been talking about today?
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Picked up the R8000 crankset today.
Ill be going from a 50t to a 53t, so besides a new chain I will have to raise the FD.

Before raising the FD I will have to loosen the cable stop. Does it matter what position the derailer is in? Big ring/ small ring?

Stupid question?
Most are going to be slack in the small ring. You'll probably have to loosen the cable clamp, too.
Oh, you know that already.
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Nice ride, beautiful weather with headwind coming back. My friend broke the shift cable on his Creo with GRX. Not the first time, either. I guess they have the same problem datlas has with Ultegra. It's a 1X so he was in his biggest gear for the last few hills. Lucky for him it's an e-bike so he put it in turbo mode but he still had to stand all the way up the hills and needed a minute to recover at the top.


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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Picked up the R8000 crankset today.
Ill be going from a 50t to a 53t, so besides a new chain I will have to raise the FD.

Before raising the FD I will have to loosen the cable stop. Does it matter what position the derailer is in? Big ring/ small ring?

Stupid question?
When you loosen the cable, it will spring default to the small ring position. Make sure your lever is also in the small ring position, too.
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When you loosen the cable, it will spring default to the small ring position. Make sure your lever is also in the small ring position, too.

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Originally Posted by big john
Most are going to be slack in the small ring. You'll probably have to loosen the cable clamp, too.
Oh, you know that already.

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