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Old 04-21-23, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol


What caused cd sales to plummet like that? I know music has sucked the last 20 years, but that’s just sad.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
What caused cd sales to plummet like that? I know music has sucked the last 20 years, but that’s just sad.
It has nothing to do with the quality of music. Generally speaking, most people buy their music in a digital file format, rather than a physical copy. Being able to carry 1000s of albums worth of music on a device smaller than a single CD case quickly made the CD nearly obsolete. Many (most?) newer cars no longer have CD players. Vinyl sales have increased because it became trendy for younger folks, and some older folks still enjoy the ritual of spinning an album.

Also, there is still a lot of good music being made. Sometimes you have to dig around a little bit to find something that you connect with. You also have to be open to connecting with something unfamiliar.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
What freehub do you need?
It's a Campagnolo Record hub with 10 speed. I don't know what all the hubs are that it fits but it says 9-12 speed. One shop I called asked what hub I had and when I said Record 10 he said "You know they have 13 now, right?" How do I respond to that?

The new one should be here Tuesday.
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Originally Posted by big john
It's a Campagnolo Record hub with 10 speed. I don't know what all the hubs are that it fits but it says 9-12 speed. One shop I called asked what hub I had and when I said Record 10 he said "You know they have 13 now, right?" How do I respond to that?

The new one should be here Tuesday.
Your response should have been. “you are alot smarter than you sound”. and leave it at that.
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Was it when there was dollar/Euro parity?
No, a euro was worth like $1.26. Basically, I check the bag in at Chicago and it was $100 just like the website said. Btw, I checked my journal and it was AA. We’re checking in at Lisbon and the lines are terrible and we’re getting close to boarding. The agent sends us to a special baggage drop and then we rush back to wait in line again. The agent says €100 and I start complaining and we our flight is getting ready to board, so I pay the €100 and rush to the gate. I was going to complain later but decided it wasn’t worth the hassle.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
What caused cd sales to plummet like that? I know music has sucked the last 20 years, but that’s just sad.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
It has nothing to do with the quality of music.
But indisputably it has declined. Even DougRNS gets that.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
But indisputably it has declined. Even DougRNS gets that.
Indisputably? According to what source...other than old folks yelling "new music sucks" because it's not what they are familiar with from a time when new music was influential in their lives? What makes one person's preferred music better than someone else's? There are still gifted songwriters and talented musicians working on their craft every day.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Indisputably? According to what source...other than old folks yelling "new music sucks" because it's not what they are familiar with from a time when new music was influential in their lives? What makes one person's preferred music better than someone else's? There are still gifted songwriters and talented musicians working on their craft every day.
This- plenty of good new artists if you’re willing to expand your horizons
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One word - Sousa.

It starts and stops there.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
What caused cd sales to plummet like that? I know music has sucked the last 20 years, but that’s just sad.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Indisputably? According to what source...other than old folks yelling "new music sucks" because it's not what they are familiar with from a time when new music was influential in their lives? What makes one person's preferred music better than someone else's? There are still gifted songwriters and talented musicians working on their craft every day.
This has been going on since I can remember, which is the mid 60s. It seems open minded is the minority when it comes to music. Many people get stuck in a certain era and that's all they want to listen to for the rest of their lives.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
this is such a great chart - it illustrates the dangers of not embracing a new technology. huge declines in total sales from 2000 to 2010, because people wanted digital / streaming / download music, and presumably got it illegally.

once the labels decided to embrace what people actually wanted, sales accelerated back to new peaks.
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Originally Posted by big john
This has been going on since I can remember, which is the mid 60s. It seems open minded is the minority when it comes to music. Many people get stuck in a certain era and that's all they want to listen to for the rest of their lives.
Yep. Observed that more times than I can count.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
What caused cd sales to plummet like that? I know music has sucked the last 20 years, but that’s just sad.
Streaming services.
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Originally Posted by big john
It's a Campagnolo Record hub with 10 speed. I don't know what all the hubs are that it fits but it says 9-12 speed. One shop I called asked what hub I had and when I said Record 10 he said "You know they have 13 now, right?" How do I respond to that?

The new one should be here Tuesday.
"Do you have one in stock?"

They probably don't.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
But indisputably it has declined. Even DougRNS gets that.
Be more specific.
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Originally Posted by big john
This has been going on since I can remember, which is the mid 60s. It seems open minded is the minority when it comes to music. Many people get stuck in a certain era and that's all they want to listen to for the rest of their lives.
Thank you.

Music is what speaks to you. Most people latch onto the music popular when they were young. Failing that, it's what they listened to during... their formative years. The older generations absolutely hated the music of the '60s and '70s that is revered now. I already don't feel much connection to the newer stuff, but I'm self-aware enough to not just blast Billie Eilish or BlackPink or whoever.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
Streaming services.
Also, even if new music objectively sucked... you'd have the young'ns supposedly buying the magic '70s music would then be buying '70s CDs. You are of course correct. The people who want CDs already have most of what they're after, and those of us who have to move don't want CDs or BRs or anything.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Thank you.

Music is what speaks to you. Most people latch onto the music popular when they were young. Failing that, it's what they listened to during... their formative years. The older generations absolutely hated the music of the '60s and '70s that is revered now. I already don't feel much connection to the newer stuff, but I'm self-aware enough to not just blast Billie Eilish or BlackPink or whoever.
It's hard to find new music on commercial radio, at least here. They play (generally) what is promoted and who has been popular. I'm lucky to have 2 public stations I can listen to and 1 of them plays local bands and stuff I cold never hear otherwise. The other is a jazz and blues station which also has stuff I never hear anywhere else.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Who goes to a medical conference for fun?
Young doctors are getting cuter now days.
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Daughter rode 3 miles tonight without stopping once. Super stoked for her. My neighborhood is far from flat, but she dropped the hammer and went up each one.

My 5200 had a melt down. While shifting it went beserk. Couldn’t get any momentum pedaling it was skipping between 3 cogs. I wish I could post videos here.

Anyways, mad scientist wasn’t available so I rolled up my sleeves and went to work. Soon realized that when I was on smallest cog, so cog 9. (9 speed). the shifter still had one more click, and If i clicked it was take two clicks the other way before the derailer would move and the chain would move to the number 8 cog. So the indexing was straight garbage. I have no idea how that happened. Took me about 20 mins to get it figured out. I ran out of adjustment on the derailer so had to go to the downtube adjuster. Ended up going full slack on both and slowly introduced tension. I have it about 90 percent ready. No longer skipping under power, just occasionally does something weird between the 2 and 1 cog. Not to concerned since it’s the crit bike and if I am in those gears I have bigger issues than it skipping.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
"Do you have one in stock?"

They probably don't.
I didn't think any of the local shops would have one but I called some of the older and larger stores to try and get one for the weekend. One of the stores in the big city might but I didn't want to drive over the hill. I don't want to go there unless I have to.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Young doctors are getting cuter now days.
I've never had an attractive doctor.
Originally Posted by rjones28
Be more specific.
A lot of it has already been hashed through here before.

I should note the caveat that my exposure to new music mostly consists of periodically flipping though the area radio station that plays newer music. Also this:
Originally Posted by big john
It's hard to find new music on commercial radio, at least here.
That said, many of the songs sound the same. No one can seriously say you'll find the variety of popular music that we had in the '80s-'00s.


The vocals blow. Autotune, etc.


I can't be bothered in repeating all the stuff he capably lays out. Gotta get ready for some Sousa action tomorrow.



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