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Old 08-04-23, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric F
The finish is in Sierra Madre (Sierra Madre Blvd. & Baldwin). Not sure about Will. He hasn't done that ride in a while.
We go by there when we do our Tuesday pizza ride. Haven't in a while, though.
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You can live in an assisted or independent living facility. Age is not a prerequisite. Drooling might be.
Hmm... for many it is. At least the places I'm thinking.

My grandmother here lived for a long time in a lovely building that was a hollow square with an open courtyard full of trees in the middle. Very quiet and serene.

We will see how Mom's place is now that the kids are arriving, and when classes start in earnest. If it's not too bad we'll probably stay here over the winter and continue just stacking cash.
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Originally Posted by big john
We go by there when we do our Tuesday pizza ride. Haven't in a while, though.
There are a lot of group rides that use Sierra Madre as a destination, or at least a refreshment stop. The Sunday coffee ride I often do is basically an edited Montrose ride route, with the same finish. The monthly C&V ride that starts at the Rose Bowl, as well.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize2
I have had a rule, for the last few decades. Never drive to a ride start, unless it's an organized ride. I broke that rule last winter, riding with Bob. Not since. A purist thing, that's outdated, but habitual nometheless
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When my wife left in 2001 I went back to doing club rides every Saturday and Sunday and sometimes during the week if I was off work, so over 2000 rides until the pandemic. I drove to all but a handful of those 2000.

Now I ride from home sometimes but still drive to all group rides, at least twice per week. I just don't want to drive to Ventura (120 mile round trip) and fight terrible traffic. Friends are doing it to avoid the heat. The coast can be accessed closer but is even more zooed out than Ventura.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
There are a lot of group rides that use Sierra Madre as a destination, or at least a refreshment stop. The Sunday coffee ride I often do is basically an edited Montrose ride route, with the same finish. The monthly C&V ride that starts at the Rose Bowl, as well.
We do it to avoid the wind. Those mountains block a lot of the Santa Ana type winds. Sometimes our club (SFVBC) goes to Monrovia from CSUN for a slice. It's about an 85 mile route.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
A couple of days ago, after a ride, I saw that Garmin had upped my VO2 Max estimate and I thought to myself, "eh, that's not bad for a guy pushin' 50.... holy ****.... I'M PUSHING 50."
Soon you'll be in DougRNS territory, patting yourself on the back for riding 10 miles.

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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Hmm... for many it is. At least the places I'm thinking.

My grandmother here lived for a long time in a lovely building that was a hollow square with an open courtyard full of trees in the middle. Very quiet and serene.

We will see how Mom's place is now that the kids are arriving, and when classes start in earnest. If it's not too bad we'll probably stay here over the winter and continue just stacking cash.
I like stacks!
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Sold my wife's Roubaix in less than 24 hours!

In other news, this arrived today -



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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Ahhhh. Well, it's 3.6 lower than Garmin, so Garmin is obviously the correctest.

That is curious, though - Intervals has the higher FTP but lower VO2max (same weight for both profiles).
I just remembered I don’t have a Garmin VO2max estimate, it’s from HRV4Training.

FTP and estimated VO2max are obviously correlated, but I’m not surprised by what you report.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize2
What age constitutes old? Perhaps BillyD is our only one.
Hey! I’m not old, I’m a senior.
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Hey! I’m not old, I’m a senior.
We get discounts where the utes don’t!
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Well that was disappointing to my wallet and my time.
So my emonda and my madone 2.0 both came with fsa head sets and the bearing cover on both bikes is this massive 10 mm spacer. On the Emonda I tried multiple times to find something better but this was the best my LBS could come up with.



Several months ago I learned of a website called Slamthatstem.com. The specialize in headset bearing covers allowing you to drop your stem as low possible. They were out of stock for months but I was finally able to get my hands on 2 of them.

Whyfi already got the brunt of my frustrations.






As you can see in the pictures it looks like garbage. I emailed the guy to ask for help, maybe I am doing something wrong. And all he would say is take it to the bike shop.

If I remove the cone spacer




It fits perfectly.




Anyways, I removed both of the Slamthatstem spacers and put them both back the way they were.
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Why you need so much drop? Gorilla arms?
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Why you need so much drop? Gorilla arms?

I have long arms and legs small torso.

Just learned that with treks it’s a minimum of 5 mm below the stem and above the bearing cover. So in the case of the emonda, If I put the original bearing cover on it, I would have 15 mm of spacers underneath my stem. That seems absolutely ridiculous. Especially coming from a company that does not build aggressive geo bikes. You can’t get H1 fit anymore as far as I know.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
I have long arms and legs small torso.

Just learned that with treks it’s a minimum of 5 mm below the stem and above the bearing cover. So in the case of the emonda, If I put the original bearing cover on it, I would have 15 mm of spacers underneath my stem. That seems absolutely ridiculous. Especially coming from a company that does not build aggressive geo bikes. You can’t get H1 fit anymore as far as I know.
I think you can get H1... on the highest-end P1 bikes. Yeah.

My legs are short and torso is long (still long arms) that meant I needed a long/low road despite average flexibility. The trend towards tall and narrow hurt.

Of course now I only worry about toe box width.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I think you can get H1... on the highest-end P1 bikes. Yeah.

My legs are short and torso is long (still long arms) that meant I needed a long/low road despite average flexibility. The trend towards tall and narrow hurt.

Of course now I only worry about toe box width.

I just went from 130 mm -7 stem to 120 -17. I like how it feels.





Drop might seem excessive but it doesn’t bother me.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Soon you'll be in DougRNS territory, patting yourself on the back for riding 10 miles.
Dont forget this epic ride. Well over 16 miles.
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Dont forget this epic ride. Well over 16 miles.
Hopefully in a few months I can run that... will take more like two hours though.
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What is the minimum you need to Zwift? Asking for a friend.
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Originally Posted by big john
When my wife left in 2001 I went back to doing club rides every Saturday and Sunday and sometimes during the week if I was off work, so over 2000 rides until the pandemic. I drove to all but a handful of those 2000.

Now I ride from home sometimes but still drive to all group rides, at least twice per week. I just don't want to drive to Ventura (120 mile round trip) and fight terrible traffic. Friends are doing it to avoid the heat. The coast can be accessed closer but is even more zooed out than Ventura.
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Originally Posted by big john
What is the minimum you need to Zwift? Asking for a friend.
Minimum…Bike, Bluetooth speed sensor, dumb trainer, phone/tablet. This is probably a less interesting experience than a dumb trainer and a video to watch.

Better…Bike, smart trainer, Apple TV, TV/monitor.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Minimum…Bike, Bluetooth speed sensor, dumb trainer, phone/tablet. This is probably a less interesting experience than a dumb trainer and a video to watch.

Better…Bike, smart trainer, Apple TV, TV/monitor.
Yep. When I started out, I was running it with a dumb trainer, cadence and speed sensors, on an old laptop connected to a TV. Zwift estimates your power output bases on your wheel speed and the make and model of trainer you're using. But, with a smart trainer that both measures your actual power output and changes the resistance to match the virtual terrain.
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