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Old 07-11-23, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas
I started using Look Deltas when they came out (1986? 1987?) and stayed on them until about 2016. Eventually I got tired of sourcing NOS pedals and the squeak, so I moved on to Keo 2 Max pedals about 7 years ago and they are fine. I like the grey cleats with a smidge of float. They do sometimes squeak but WAY LESS than the deltas.

As always, YMMV.
I was such an early adopter that there were no shoes available and had to drill our own soles which was an incredible leap of faith. without Goggling, I'm guessing '85 or '86. If not '85, then '86 for sure.

My shop got the pedals in and we all laughed at them. Then, I pulled my foot out in a sprint in a criterium in Iowa City. I bought the pedals the following week. Off to the archives to find out what year.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
I was such an early adopter that there were no shoes available and had to drill our own soles which was an incredible leap of faith. without Goggling, I'm guessing '85 or '86. If not '85, then '86 for sure.

My shop got the pedals in and we all laughed at them. Then, I pulled my foot out in a sprint in a criterium in Iowa City. I bought the pedals the following week. Off to the archives to find out what year.
The problem with the first few years of clipless pedals is that shoes were NOT really designed well for them and over time the uppers of my shoes would invariably start to separate from the soles.

Thankfully that's not such a problem anymore.

edit: I do recall they sold those bolt anchors you could use to drill your shoes. That was nuts!!
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Originally Posted by Eric F
I've been using Speedplays exclusively on my road bikes since about 2000. I've never used covers for the cleats.
I had a Sampson pedal sponsorship in 1987. I bet no one remembers those.
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Originally Posted by datlas

edit: I do recall they sold those bolt anchors you could use to drill your shoes. That was nuts!!
I've still got a small drawer full of the goofy anchors. They use a weird size bolt, too. They came with the pedals for several years.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
I had a Sampson pedal sponsorship in 1987. I bet no one remembers those.
My cycling buddy used them.

I was Look from the start, although I think I bought a pair of Mavic "Look Patent" pedals early on when Look could not churn them out fast enough.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
I've still got a small drawer full of the goofy anchors. They use a weird size bolt, too. They came with the pedals for several years.
I think it's time to get rid of them.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Understood, now that makes sense. Delta forever?
If I'm going to keep using them I'm going to need a new pair eventually. Got really lucky the last time and found some Jalabert signature Deltas which were in new condition.
It would be easier to switch to SPD mountain bike shoes and pedals. Might end up doing that.
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Originally Posted by datlas
The problem with the first few years of clipless pedals is that shoes were NOT really designed well for them and over time the uppers of my shoes would invariably start to separate from the soles.

Thankfully that's not such a problem anymore.

edit: I do recall they sold those bolt anchors you could use to drill your shoes. That was nuts!!
I looked it up, I settled for 5th place after pulling my foot out in the sprint in Iowa City on 4/27/86 so I bought the pedals right after that and my shop mechanic at work drilled a pair of shoes for me.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I think it's time to get rid of them.
I use those weird anchors from time to time if I want to affix something to a board or piece of plywood. I'll keep them until i either run out of the bolts or the anchors. Wont' be long, I checked the drawer and there's only 4-5 sets left.
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Originally Posted by datlas
My cycling buddy used them.
I looked and there are several sets for sale on ebay.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
I looked and there are several sets for sale on ebay.
The other one I remember was "aerolite" which was pretty much just a spindle and the cleat was a big clip. Impossible to walk on.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
I was such an early adopter that there were no shoes available and had to drill our own soles which was an incredible leap of faith. without Goggling, I'm guessing '85 or '86. If not '85, then '86 for sure.

My shop got the pedals in and we all laughed at them. Then, I pulled my foot out in a sprint in a criterium in Iowa City. I bought the pedals the following week. Off to the archives to find out what year.
I used the early Time pedals and I drilled my shoes to move the cleat inside because I toe-out. This may have contributed to the pedals breaking while riding, which dumped me on the road twice.
I also tried the first Shimano pedals which used the Look style cleat and the Mavic pedals with the whole body float. The cleat would lock in and the pedal body swiveled.
My LBS guy knew a machinist who made pedal extenders for me when there were none on the market. Prior to all that I used quill pedals with clips and straps and some came with a little lip on the outside and I had to grind that off or bend it down because my feet hang off the outside.
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Hey, I'm not trying to talk you out of it.
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Ouch.
Sorry, didn't mean to come across snippy.
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Strava et al. were banned for active duty personnel by DOD in 2018 because of the security risks.
One of which, IIRC, was that you could map a base pretty well based on where people did and didn't go, or something like that.
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This reminds me, I need to replace my cleats. Shimano SPD road pedals. Got the cleats but too lazy to do it.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Understood, now that makes sense. Delta forever?
I used Look Deltas exclusively until a year or so ago, when the spindle on one of them broke. Fortunately I was on the trainer at the time, but it was still no fun. I bought the cheap Keos, and now have them on 4 of my bikes. The other 5 still have Deltas, but I check for play in the bearings which I had noticed and ignored on the one that broke.

I had to invest in a second pair of shoes, of course.
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I put the Armor All on my cleats and pedals this morning and they were quiet but I almost fell on my ass when I put a foot down.
Nice ride with very little climbing, a bagel stop, and in the low 90s at the end. Supposed to be over 100 by Thursday. frack.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I used Look Deltas exclusively until a year or so ago, when the spindle on one of them broke. Fortunately I was on the trainer at the time, but it was still no fun. I bought the cheap Keos, and now have them on 4 of my bikes. The other 5 still have Deltas, but I check for play in the bearings which I had noticed and ignored on the one that broke.

I had to invest in a second pair of shoes, of course.
The first Time spindle broke when I was starting across and intersection and I ended up flat on my back but unhurt. Friend drove 20+ miles to get his car and picked me up.
Time gave me a new pair, no problem. The second one broke soon after but I didn't fall. I felt the spindle snap and the casting of the pedal body held it together enough for me to stop the bike. This time the Time rep was very apologetic and upgraded me to the higher priced pedal, the white ones.

That one broke after I got my new bike, so a few months later. I was on a club ride and stood up to power through and intersection and I fell into a bunch of broken glass and debris in the triangle between where cars turn right and go straight. I tried to stand up and the pedal was still on my shoe so I slipped back down. My ex was on the ride and she was very annoyed about having to go get the car to pick me up.

The time rep told my LBS to buy me whatever pedals I wanted, as long as they weren't Times. That's how I got the first pair of Looks.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Twitter is where it's at. (It's where I get all my east coast weather news anyways...)
That's a fair amount of rain in 11 hours
On July 4, 1969, it started raining as the fireworks were still going off. By 8:00 the next morning, the five gallon buckets setting about had overflowed. I think maybe 11" or some such. Wayne County Ohio. Nobody expected it, as far as I am aware.
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I had spd cleats and pedals for a short time in the early 90s. I was getting back into cycling, after being out on the farm for ten years, and no mtbs. In those days I felt the need to conform. Whatever was I thinking? Road pedals and cleats were a bridge too far, even then.
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11.37 miles almost identical to yesterday's 11 35 miles.


almost identical but look at the elevation gain. Much different. Hmmm.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
I had a Sampson pedal sponsorship in 1987. I bet no one remembers those.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Twitter is where it's at. (It's where I get all my east coast weather news anyways...)
That's a fair amount of rain in 11 hours
We're headed to Vermont this weekend. Hope the place we've rented isn't under water.
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We're headed to Vermont this weekend. Hope the place we've rented isn't under water.
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