How much can handlebar stack on Canyon Endurace Cf7 be increased?
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How much can handlebar stack on Canyon Endurace Cf7 be increased?
I am looking into buying a second hand Canyon endurace CF 7 eTap 2022 model size large. How many mm is it possible to increase stack by adding spacers and flipping the stem? The official stack from Canyon seem to be 611mm. Spacers seem to be able to increase the stack by 27,5 mm. Will -6 degrees be the factory version of the stem? How many mm will I increase the stack by flipping the stem?
I am currently on an old Cannondale Caad9, 56 cm. Frame stack is 556 mm, but my bikefitter set on a stem riser due to neck issues so the actual " handlebar stack" is as much as 701mm. Frame stack on Canyon CF7 Large seem to be 611 mm , so probably kind of hard to get a 95 mm rise from adding spacers and flipping the stem?
I am currently on an old Cannondale Caad9, 56 cm. Frame stack is 556 mm, but my bikefitter set on a stem riser due to neck issues so the actual " handlebar stack" is as much as 701mm. Frame stack on Canyon CF7 Large seem to be 611 mm , so probably kind of hard to get a 95 mm rise from adding spacers and flipping the stem?
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"Stack" is not a measurement of handlebar height. It's the vertical distance from the center of the BB to the top center of the head tube. What you're looking for is what Canyon calls "Stack+", which is the vertical measurement from the center of the BB to the center of the handlebar where the stem clamps it. In the case of the Large Endurace CF 7, that's 709mm. The Endurace comes with 35mm of spacers, so you can LOWER the bars down to around 674 (the fact that it's angled means it isn't exactly 674).
What I'd do in your shoes would be to measure the Cannondale, from the floor to the center of the handlebar, and from the floor to the center of the BB, and subtract the second number from the first. That will give you your current "Stack+", and you can figure out if the Canyon can be set up in that range.
What I'd do in your shoes would be to measure the Cannondale, from the floor to the center of the handlebar, and from the floor to the center of the BB, and subtract the second number from the first. That will give you your current "Stack+", and you can figure out if the Canyon can be set up in that range.
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Stack height of the frame is already 51mm higher than your Caad9. So you might not need to worry about bar height. I don't know about Canyon's, but many new bikes I've looked at come with about 30 mm of spacers between the stem and the headset. Did the previous owner of the used bike already slam the stem and cut off the steerer tube? If they just put the spacers on top the stem, then you can move them below. And turning the stem over is an option, but it looks funny to me on a road bike. But I won't laugh at you if you happen to pass me. Might grin though!
A lot of stems today have their specs written on them. So take a close look at that bike. If you feel you want a higher stack, then consider a Specialized Roubaix, which will have a 70mm higher stack in a 58cm and a 105mm higher stack in a 61cm than does your current Caad9 in a 56cm size.
A lot of stems today have their specs written on them. So take a close look at that bike. If you feel you want a higher stack, then consider a Specialized Roubaix, which will have a 70mm higher stack in a 58cm and a 105mm higher stack in a 61cm than does your current Caad9 in a 56cm size.
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"Stack" is not a measurement of handlebar height. It's the vertical distance from the center of the BB to the top center of the head tube. What you're looking for is what Canyon calls "Stack+", which is the vertical measurement from the center of the BB to the center of the handlebar where the stem clamps it. In the case of the Large Endurace CF 7, that's 709 mm. The Endurace comes with 35mm of spacers, so you can LOWER the bars down to around 674 (the fact that it's angled means it isn't exactly 674).
What I'd do in your shoes would be to measure the Cannondale, from the floor to the center of the handlebar, and from the floor to the center of the BB, and subtract the second number from the first. That will give you your current "Stack+", and you can figure out if the Canyon can be set up in that range.
What I'd do in your shoes would be to measure the Cannondale, from the floor to the center of the handlebar, and from the floor to the center of the BB, and subtract the second number from the first. That will give you your current "Stack+", and you can figure out if the Canyon can be set up in that range.
My bikefitter uses the term «handlebar stack» which I assume will be the same as «stack +»? Please take a look at the bikefit report I am attaching. Thats where my 706 mm measurement on my Cannondale Caad9 comes from.

Report on the bikefit on my current Cannondale Caad9 . Be aware there is a «stem riser» included in «handlebar stack»
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I just went to Canyon's website, looked up the Endurace CF 7, and scrolled down till the Geometry tab appeared, then clicked on it. AFAICT, "Handlebar Stack" = Canyon's "Stack+" Depending on whether the previous owner of the Canyon had cut down the steerer tube (I cut mine), you probably have a Stack+ between 680 and 709 available. BTW, Canyon's "Reach+" is the same as "Handlebar Reach" in your table, and they're within 2mm. Should fit fine.
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I just bought a Canyon endurace cfa8 and it came with 27mm of spacers.
this might help
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this might help
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The Canyon stack + measurements seem to be what you suggested so this frame had the handlebar high enough. I bought the bike , it seem to fit me well. Thanks for helping 😊
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I just bought an Endurace CF 7 Di2.
Flipping the stem adds a solid inch to the stack. And you can always get a different stem.
That's precisely why I got the CF 7 Di2 rather than the CF SLX 8 Di2...would have happily paid more money for the Ultegra Di2, but I didn't want the integrated cockpit.
Flipping the stem adds a solid inch to the stack. And you can always get a different stem.
That's precisely why I got the CF 7 Di2 rather than the CF SLX 8 Di2...would have happily paid more money for the Ultegra Di2, but I didn't want the integrated cockpit.
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depends on stem length. you can plug your numbers in on this calculator it is kind of a cool tool.