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Old 10-11-23, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by t2p
also a fan of the early rivs

also liked the early tornados

reatta sparked my interest bitd when introduced - but the dash / electronics were sortuv a turnoff … and like many gm cars of that period - the initial idea / concept was often better than the execution / final product
Reatta, Riviera, Toronado, of that era, all E bodies. The first Reattas and same year Rivs had the CRT touch screen in the center of the dash. Not a fan of that.
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Originally Posted by t2p
also a fan of the early rivs

also liked the early tornados

reatta sparked my interest bitd when introduced - but the dash / electronics were sortuv a turnoff … and like many gm cars of that period - the initial idea / concept was often better than the execution / final product
I really liked the early Toronados. They remind me of the Cord 812. Not that they look the same, but there's the same kind of "Let's do something different!" feeling to them.
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Want to ride but it's so windy here just walking to the garage was obnoxious.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I really liked the early Toronados. They remind me of the Cord 812. Not that they look the same, but there's the same kind of "Let's do something different!" feeling to them.
1966?
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one of the chief engineers of that car / drivetrain / transmission (whatever ?) later became head of GM … Robert Stempel … or something like that
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there ya go big john - 63 vette and riv

and affordable - ho scale lol
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and a Toronado
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Originally Posted by t2p


there ya go big john - 63 vette and riv

and affordable - ho scale lol
Not sure how that Riv will fair in the turns.
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Originally Posted by t2p


there ya go big john - 63 vette and riv

and affordable - ho scale lol
Wow! I had slot cars, a 1/24 scale Chaparral and a 1/32 Ferrari something.

Making a front wheel drive car in 1966 was a big deal in the U.S. Of course it would be a massive V8 and longitudinal.
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BillyD, AG and I were just watching the Toy Story NFL broadcast for background noise and they had a helpful definition of the London slang "gobsmacked". Hadn't thought of it as a London thing but maybe it is, to some degree. Anyway I immediately thought of you.
I just vaguely remember the occasion when, I think, I may have inquired about that word. I just looked it up again, it IS British and it IS such an odd expression.
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Originally Posted by big john
Wow! I had slot cars, a 1/24 scale Chaparral and a 1/32 Ferrari something.

Making a front wheel drive car in 1966 was a big deal in the U.S. Of course it would be a massive V8 and longitudinal.
Hey, at least they folded the transaxle under the engine, rather than putting the engine entirely behind the front wheels, like the Citroen DS. Or worse - behind it, so there'd be a 425 IN FRONT of the wheels
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I agree with big john, MOJO and the other Doug. Loan what you won't mind losing. Might have to push the Saturn a few more years.
There's no question he's not getting it back. An undergraduate from a poor family who'll be repaying student loans for a decade or more? It's not a loan, it's a gift, period.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
There's no question he's not getting it back. An undergraduate from a poor family who'll be repaying student loans for a decade or more? It's not a loan, it's a gift, period.
That's okay as long as your expectations are in check.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Hey, at least they folded the transaxle under the engine, rather than putting the engine entirely behind the front wheels, like the Citroen DS. Or worse - behind it, so there'd be a 425 IN FRONT of the wheels
First time I opened the hood on a Renault 5 (Le Car) and saw the engine behind the transmission, I was quite surprised.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Hey, at least they folded the transaxle under the engine, rather than putting the engine entirely behind the front wheels, like the Citroen DS. Or worse - behind it, so there'd be a 425 IN FRONT of the wheels
The Audi approach.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
Nice, Good trails in Winslow too I take it?

I've been wanting to visit Flagstaff and Sedona to check out some MTB trails.
That's the main drawback, there's exactly one trail in Winslow that I know of. The area has a fair amount of State Trust land where an ambitious person could build more trails though...

I did a nice gravel ride out of there as well.

Flagstaff has some really good ones, I've been relearning how to ride over roots. Sedona is super fun, obviously.

Next destination for me is Gooseberry Mesa, maybe weekend after next. Gotta get up there again before winter hits.

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Originally Posted by big john
Reatta, Riviera, Toronado, of that era, all E bodies. The first Reattas and same year Rivs had the CRT touch screen in the center of the dash. Not a fan of that.
Yeah those space shuttle dashes are a bit of a turnoff.

Saw a Reatta last weekend at the AZ/NM border rest area. Dude had his sandwich on the roof for lunch. He was a true road warrior, had 320k on it
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Mondays ride was glorious, yesterday it was meh. Almost an identical out and back. Wind at same speed coming from the Southwest. Go figure. At least I rode.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
That's the main drawback, there's exactly one trail in Winslow that I know of. The area has a fair amount of State Trust land where an ambitious person could build more trails though...

I did a nice gravel ride out of there as well.

Flagstaff has some really good ones, I've been relearning how to ride over roots. Sedona is super fun, obviously.

Next destination for me is Gooseberry Mesa, maybe weekend after next. Gotta get up there again before winter hits.
Don't know about biking in Sedona, but I love the place. Could see myself living there.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
Mondays ride was glorious, yesterday it was meh. Almost an identical out and back. Wind at same speed coming from the Southwest. Go figure. At least I rode.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Some days, I'm a Cycling God. Some days, I'm a Cycling Dog. Same bike, same route, same temp, same time of day. Go figure.
Maybe it's a mighty Doug thing
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This plant is at least 34 years old and I have had it for 24 of those years. About 8 years ago I rescued it after my wife threw it out. Some of the vines are 20 feet long. I keep it nearby in my office so it can grow and thrive by living off of my awesome vibe. The cup is used to water/feed it.
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Where the heck is MoAlpha ?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
The Audi approach.
But not with 425 cid V8s.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS

This plant is at least 34 years old and I have had it for 24 of those years. About 8 years ago I rescued it after my wife threw it out. Some of the vines are 20 feet long. I keep it nearby in my office so it can grow and thrive by living off of my awesome vibe. The cup is used to water/feed it.
Do you live in a low security prison or just a crappy neighborhood?
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