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Old 12-05-23, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by TMonk
also apparently it's "nerve racking". Had to google that. It's something I say far more often than I write.

I read it as nerve wacking if it makes you feel better.
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unbound 200 ? looks like an amazing challenge !

but the course was a mutha last year due to the rain - that would have been no fun

the gravel rides / races eric f does also look amazing (forget the name … senior moment)
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
our team host a local series but it doesn’t start until summer, my racing season will be mostly over by then.

Im not strong enough to sprint off the front and keep everyone at bay. I would blow up in the first 5 mins.

me neither, I need some help. you need to constantly monitor the field and your HR and modulate the power down if needed
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Holy wall-of-text Batman.
yes sir. Took almost as long to write as the surgery.
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Originally Posted by t2p
unbound 200 ? looks like an amazing challenge !

but the course was a mutha last year due to the rain - that would have been no fun

the gravel rides / races eric f does also look amazing (forget the name … senior moment)
Belgian Waffle Ride.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
any of you’s thinking about doing Unbound this year?
AG has occasionally made noise about it, but I don't think she will any time soon.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
also apparently it's "nerve racking". Had to google that. It's something I say far more often than I write.
I would have sworn upside-down it was "wracking".
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Oh dear, I've always used wracking. Can an old dog learn new tricks?

Nerve-wracking” is a widely-used and well-established variant spelling. Many editors and usage dictionaries find it acceptable, but purists and prescriptivists consider it an error.
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Originally Posted by big john
2005 Trailblazer. It will be 10 years in April. I wouldn't know what else to get.
You might want to check your math
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Thinking about doing more endurance gravel races and less crits this year. Ive done so few group rides, at the moment I am not really comfortable with the thought of being in a pack of racers racing relentlessly…..

So talking to the wife about unbound. Issue, no hotel rooms are left and I am scared to look at rental cars.

Croatsn buck 50 looks promising. We used to live down there and we could go down as a family, but 170 dollars entry fee….. Sheesh.


Applachian gravel journey. This requires a 2 person team for some silly reason, but I could take the family with me.
Being comfortable in a tight, fast peloton is a skillset that takes practice, and until you get to that point, you're burning energy and focus on that anxiety rather than thinking about the racing. However, just doing more crits will help that skillset.

That said, if you're attracted to doing multiple-hour efforts, gravel racing is a great venue for it. It's also a way-less tense atmosphere than road/crit racing.

For events that I've done, and am intending to do in the coming year, $170 is not unreasonable. A big factor is the amount of support/personnel that goes into putting on a gravel event. A road race or crit has a single location for start/finish, registration, etc. Maybe there will be a few folks out on the course. Gravel races aren't generally multi-lap events, and have multiple aid/refuel stations along the course, requiring some equipment setup and the cost of snacks. Plus there are often points in the course where traffic is controlled or there are people to guide riders to the correct direction on the route. The start/finish areas also tend to be a bit more elaborate than you average local crit, and may even be a multi-day event.
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Originally Posted by t2p
unbound 200 ? looks like an amazing challenge !

but the course was a mutha last year due to the rain - that would have been no fun

the gravel rides / races eric f does also look amazing (forget the name … senior moment)
Originally Posted by big john
Belgian Waffle Ride.
Yep! BWR in So Cal was awesome, and I will be doing it again in '24. The BWR organization continues to expand their calendar, and has multiple events throughout the year (7 in '23, I think). They know how to put on a good show, and provide a great experience. Also...WAFFLES! https://www.belgianwaffleride.bike/

If gravel races/events interest you, there are also probably smaller events in your area that you can hit, as well. For me, there are a lot more available within a 4-hour drive than I'm planning to do. My '24 plans...Rock Cobbler (Feb - Bakersfield), BWR (Apr - San Diego), Dirty Bear (Jul - Big Bear), and Bovine Classic (Oct - Atascadero).
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Originally Posted by TMonk
You could always try sprinting in the opening laps and then riding in front of the pack. Then, if they catch up to you for some dreadful reason, do it repeatedly until your "pack" is just a few riders. That's how I prefer to race criteriums
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Being comfortable in a tight, fast peloton is a skillset that takes practice, and until you get to that point, you're burning energy and focus on that anxiety rather than thinking about the racing. However, just doing more crits will help that skillset.

That said, if you're attracted to doing multiple-hour efforts, gravel racing is a great venue for it. It's also a way-less tense atmosphere than road/crit racing.

For events that I've done, and am intending to do in the coming year, $170 is not unreasonable. A big factor is the amount of support/personnel that goes into putting on a gravel event. A road race or crit has a single location for start/finish, registration, etc. Maybe there will be a few folks out on the course. Gravel races aren't generally multi-lap events, and have multiple aid/refuel stations along the course, requiring some equipment setup and the cost of snacks. Plus there are often points in the course where traffic is controlled or there are people to guide riders to the correct direction on the route. The start/finish areas also tend to be a bit more elaborate than you average local crit, and may even be a multi-day event.
Hell, just riding in a well-behaved paceline that's NOT competing is anxiety inducing until you've done it a bit. I feel like there should be levels, like in video games.
Level 1: Solo riding - maintaining a line, taking a drink while pedaling, etc.
Level 2: Riding with a partner - keeping distance, maintaining speed, calling out hazards, etc.
Level 3: Riding in a paceline - minimizing the Slinky Effect, pulling without accelerating, etc.
Level 4: Riding in a competitive group - don't crash, don't crash anyone else
Level 5: Racing

So many riders out there struggle with Level 1, wandering all over the bike lane, gripping the bars like grim death, etc.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
You could always try sprinting in the opening laps and then riding in front of the pack. Then, if they catch up to you for some dreadful reason, do it repeatedly until your "pack" is just a few riders. That's how I prefer to race criteriums
And then your teammate, who's been shadowing the riders chasing you, pulls out his sprint in the last 2-300 yards, after everyone else had ridden themselves ragged chasing you.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
also apparently it's "nerve racking". Had to google that. It's something I say far more often than I write.
I learned something new today. Thanks.
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Hey, it's a celeste clarinet! It would be tough not putting a Bianchi sticker on there

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Holy wall-of-text Batman.
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A John Prine look alike on he combi this morning. That is all

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Phew! Potential bad situation averted. I got the intern in our upcoming holiday Pollyanna. I was told that she likes to drink, and I thought I heard her say she recently turned 21, so I was going to get her some booze. Being cautious, I asked around. Seems like she is only 19. On top of that, both her parents work here. Her mom works in this office. They don't share the same last name, so I had no idea.

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Originally Posted by bampilot06
any of you’s thinking about doing Unbound this year?
Next event for me is a solo ride from Peoria to Tucson along the Central Arizona Project canal. Probably gonna cost more than $170, roughly $300 for motels, $160 food, $100 transpo back to Phoenix. Probably 85% gravel, 10% MTB, 2% ridiculous bushwhacking, and 3% road.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Phew! Potential bad situation averted. I got the intern in our upcoming holiday Pollyanna. I was told that she likes to drink, and I thought I heard her say she recently turned 21, so I was going to get her some booze. Being cautious, I asked around. Seems like she is only 19. On top of that, both her parents work here. Her mom works in this office. They don't share the same last name, so I had no idea.

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Woah. Close call! Kudos on follow-up investigation.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize2
A John Prine look alike on he combo this morning. That is all
What's the combo? Local bus?
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Hey, it's a celeste clarinet! It would be tough not putting a Bianchi sticker on there

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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Phew! Potential bad situation averted. I got the intern in our upcoming holiday Pollyanna. I was told that she likes to drink, and I thought I heard her say she recently turned 21, so I was going to get her some booze. Being cautious, I asked around. Seems like she is only 19. On top of that, both her parents work here. Her mom works in this office. They don't share the same last name, so I had no idea.

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