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Old 12-17-23, 07:10 PM
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Much like your posts.
at least my posts won't raise your cholesterol.
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People here don't get it.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Good luck with that.

Personally, I took the approach of trying to raise my kids to be ready to be out in the world, as a functional young adult, able to make good decisions for themselves. So far, things are going well (ages 19 and 25).
Same. So far so good.

We also taught our daughter to never let herself get in a position where she was financially dependent on a man.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Same. So far so good.

We also taught our daughter to never let herself get in a position where she was financially dependent on a man.

Mrs Bam must have not gotten that lesson.
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I have the solution. No dating til she’s married.

No marriage til shes at least 35.


#problem solver.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Same. So far so good.

We also taught our daughter to never let herself get in a position where she was financially dependent on a man.
refreshing and ironically important again given the regressive “provider man” ******** that so many young women are getting brainwashed into on tiktok and youtube. i sure as hell know that’s not the equality that my mom’s generation fought like hell for.

my two girls are 5 and 12, rapidly transitioning from the “girls are easier because they’re less likely to burn the city down” to “girls are harder because fathers remember being young men.”
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Originally Posted by mschwett
refreshing and ironically important again given the regressive “provider man” ******** that so many young women are getting brainwashed into on tiktok and youtube. i sure as hell know that’s not the equality that my mom’s generation fought like hell for.
Excuse me, the what now?
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The Peacock stream for SNF seems to be at like half brightness.
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Excuse me, the what now?
you probably don’t want to know!
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Originally Posted by mschwett
refreshing and ironically important again given the regressive “provider man” ******** that so many young women are getting brainwashed into on tiktok and youtube. i sure as hell know that’s not the equality that my mom’s generation fought like hell for.

my two girls are 5 and 12, rapidly transitioning from the “girls are easier because they’re less likely to burn the city down” to “girls are harder because fathers remember being young men.”
Fasten your seatbelt. It may be a bumpy decade.
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According to the stats they are identical.
old bike looked hot - until placed next to the new bike
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Originally Posted by mschwett
you probably don’t want to know!
I swear there is a concerted war on those platforms. Again, they should be burned down.
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The 45+ is deeper in number/talent than the 35+ field in SCNCA. I imagine it's like that elsewhere too.

My theory: guys are having families. Too hard to train consistently with the disruptive sleep and constant attention of an infant and toddler. We both want another one, so this may be my life for a few years here. 6 hrs/week on the trainer if I'm lucky, the occasional long ride. One thing that gives me hope: the best 45+ guys are just as good as the 35+ guys. I'm one of the good 35+ guys in this district. So hopefully that means I can still be good for another 10+ years, if/when I am ready to apply myself
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Old 12-17-23, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize2
Another half day of hard work completed. One more to go, on the current project. Then there is another small one to finish, and a bigger, multi day one to follow. The bikes remain parked, but Alan, my old riding buddy, who taught me where to ride in the Merida-Tixko environs, is in town visiting his kids. He moved to Spain a few years ago. He’s a freelance translator in Spanish, Portuguese, English. I worked hard for six hours today and didn’t t work up a sweat. A good thing because the pump that sends water from the cistern to the rooftop tank crapped out. I’ll get a new one tomorrow. A quick R&R. This is what Winter is for. Doing all those projects for which it is too damn hot during the Summer, Fall, and Spring.
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Old 12-17-23, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
The Peacock stream for SNF seems to be at like half brightness.
It's like that on NBC, too. Not sure why, almost looks foggy? And there are shadows like maybe the lights aren't at full brightness.
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Old 12-17-23, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
year 1: infancy, you know what this is like

Age 1 starting to walk and run, so no taking your eyes off her

age 2: the terrible twos, this is real

age 3 to 5: soccer on Saturdays, and the demands of having a toddler 24x7, #2 joins the fray

age 5 - 12: the formative years filled with after school events all week long, sports, dance, music, etc. on the weekends and really every day

age 13 - 18: you have a daughter, everyday is filled with drama (and the daily stress of hoping she doesn’t show up pregnant one day)

When you ship her off to college, you can a lot some time to yourself. But wait, you still have one or more still at home, so you’ll just have put that idea off a few years.
and additional possible wait(s) … just when you (think you) are in the clear after kids finish school and get a job etc etc … your in-laws (in their 80’s) and parents (in their 90’s) begin to break down physically and mentally … good times
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and additional possible wait(s) … just when you (think you) are in the clear after kids finish school and get a job etc etc … your in-laws (in their 80’s) and parents (in their 90’s) begin to break down physically and mentally … good times
Yep. 😔
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and additional possible wait(s) … just when you (think you) are in the clear after kids finish school and get a job etc etc … your in-laws (in their 80’s) and parents (in their 90’s) begin to break down physically and mentally … good times
the circle of life … be happy for the time every generation overlaps. lost both my parents in between kids 1 and 2, wish they’d have both known both of them!
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I thought the cold dark garage was just to get you in the right mental state. to crush souls.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
The 45+ is deeper in number/talent than the 35+ field in SCNCA. I imagine it's like that elsewhere too.

My theory: guys are having families. Too hard to train consistently with the disruptive sleep and constant attention of an infant and toddler. We both want another one, so this may be my life for a few years here. 6 hrs/week on the trainer if I'm lucky, the occasional long ride. One thing that gives me hope: the best 45+ guys are just as good as the 35+ guys. I'm one of the good 35+ guys in this district. So hopefully that means I can still be good for another 10+ years, if/when I am ready to apply myself
60+ has a bunch of past tour riders and other retirees that have nothing but time to train. The last podium I was on had the stars and stripes on one side of me, and the rainbow stripes on the other side of me.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
The 45+ is deeper in number/talent than the 35+ field in SCNCA. I imagine it's like that elsewhere too.

My theory: guys are having families. Too hard to train consistently with the disruptive sleep and constant attention of an infant and toddler. We both want another one, so this may be my life for a few years here. 6 hrs/week on the trainer if I'm lucky, the occasional long ride. One thing that gives me hope: the best 45+ guys are just as good as the 35+ guys. I'm one of the good 35+ guys in this district. So hopefully that means I can still be good for another 10+ years, if/when I am ready to apply myself
My experience supports your theory. My best years on the bike were after my divorce from my test-wife, and being a split-time dad. My schedule with my kid allowed for a good amount of training time, and the flexibility to race when I wanted. At 35, I was married to my keeper-wife, and our kid was born that year. I realized that I couldn’t be the full-time dad I wanted/needed to be, and still race at that level (Cat 2). That’s the year I walked away from racing, and shortly after that, riding all together.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
My experience supports your theory. My best years on the bike were after my divorce from my test-wife, and being a split-time dad. My schedule with my kid allowed for a good amount of training time, and the flexibility to race when I wanted. At 35, I was married to my keeper-wife, and our kid was born that year. I realized that I couldn’t be the full-time dad I wanted/needed to be, and still race at that level (Cat 2). That’s the year I walked away from racing, and shortly after that, riding all together.
Glad you were able to circle back in some capacity! It will be interesting to see how this pans out for me, as I want to be an involved parent as well.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
60+ has a bunch of past tour riders and other retirees that have nothing but time to train. The last podium I was on had the stars and stripes on one side of me, and the rainbow stripes on the other side of me.

San Diego has some exceptionally tough 60+ guys that are still able to ride a P/1/2 race, Thurlow Rogers, Doug Pomeranz etc. Dougie is still at the pointy end of the hammer rides around here and just as good as guys half his age, crazy. I realize that these guys are genetic anomalies, to be that aerobically fit at their age. It's quite impressive.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
San Diego has some exceptionally tough 60+ guys that are still able to ride a P/1/2 race, Thurlow Rogers, Doug Pomeranz etc. Dougie is still at the pointy end of the hammer rides around here and just as good as guys half his age, crazy. I realize that these guys are genetic anomalies, to be that aerobically fit at their age. It's quite impressive.
Thurlow ripped my legs off more than a few times back in the day. I’m not surprised he’s still doing it.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
Glad you were able to circle back in some capacity! It will be interesting to see how this pans out for me, as I want to be an involved parent as well.
I spent 15 years off the bike, and am very happy to be back to it. I feel like I got part of myself back. That said, I have zero regrets putting it aside to focus on my family, and being 100% committed to my kid’s travel/club sports journey for a majority of that time. I also recognized that my previous selfish focus on bike racing was a factor in the end of my first marriage, and I didn’t want to repeat that pattern.
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