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Old 12-19-23, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Check your flybys.
I don't have strava so I don't have fly bys but i don't ride so it just doesn't matter.
Sad.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
After reviewing several pages of submissions I have concluded that the new Minnesota flag will be approximately this.



WhyFi
wut

Where's the duck? Fail. No wonder WhyFi is in hiding. SMH.

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I hate new flags. They all look like Canadien minor league hockey jerseys to me. I suppose the new Minnesota is better than the new Utah though:

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Originally Posted by DougRNS
I don't have strava so I don't have fly bys but i don't ride so it just doesn't matter.
Sad.
I thought you were going to be walking? You might have some walkbys if you joined us on Strava.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I would put odds at 50-50. The fit on the Habanero is better, but I know that all the cool kids prefer Di2 and crabon.
I call that group think. I don't and I'm cool so there's your evidence to the contrary. You're welcome.
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Hmmm, they both have stars like compass roses. Is there some kind of Illuminati thing with 8-point stars?

Or maybe aliens?
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
They’re great. I only really lost traction in mud that was 6-7 inches deep. I mostly ride dirt roads and jeep trails so YMMV.

One thing for sure is that they’re really fast for a gravel tire
I ride a pretty fair amount of mild to moderate singletrack, and front end grip is valuable to me, even at the cost of a couple of watts of rolling resistance. A while back, I was running a pair of Challenge Getaway Pros. They were light and very fast on hard stuff, but the handling was vague when it needed to be sharp, and the sidewalls were fragile. I really like the combination of the Pirelli Gravel H (rear) and M (front), but I'm interested to see how the Tufo combination stacks up. I'm looking for the unicorn mix of fast, grippy, light, and durable. The BRR numbers for the Tufos look to be a little better than the Pirellis.
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saw them a few times back in the day - first show was sorta/kinda raw - last show was more elaborate with backing members …

outstanding

first show in pgh was at a small dive - water leaking from the ceiling overhead (Andy Summers not pleased) … apparently they were traveling in a borrowed station wagon or van and rented equipment for their gigs
was it the decade? They played there before they hit it big. Others did as well.
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Originally Posted by big john
I certainly don't believe that.
word. My typing skills still suck after all these years.
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what's the bee keeper / bee hive supposed to represent for Utah again? I think I remember seeing those on state hwy signs when going out to Zion/Bryce.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I suppose the new Minnesota is better than the new Utah though:
Incorrect. Not enough colour in the Minnesota one.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
what's the bee keeper / bee hive supposed to represent for Utah again? I think I remember seeing those on state hwy signs when going out to Zion/Bryce.
Lots of info here:

https://flag.utah.gov/symbolism/
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Docking in Ft. Lauderdale in 20 hours. I can resume ordering bike stuff online and not worry about the packages possibly sitting on the front porch for days.

Hmmm, what do I want to order?
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Originally Posted by TMonk
what's the bee keeper / bee hive supposed to represent for Utah again? I think I remember seeing those on state hwy signs when going out to Zion/Bryce.
Yeah state highway signs have the beehive.

Brigham Young wanted to call the area that the Latter-day Saints settled in “Deseret,” which means honeybee in the language of the Jaredites, an ancient people found in the Book of Mormon.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Hmmm, they both have stars like compass roses. Is there some kind of Illuminati thing with 8-point stars?

Or maybe aliens?
I guess Utah settled on the 5-point star.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Slow speed crashes can hurt.
Indeed.

Wife blew up their knee up this spring from putting a foot down after rubbing wheels going ~5mph.

Also on the MTB I'm most scared of falling on rocks at low speed. Well, falling on rocks in general, but if I'm going slow it's usually in a tricky section of trail and I'm not a good mountain bike rider.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
Docking in Ft. Lauderdale in 20 hours. I can resume ordering bike stuff online and not worry about the packages possibly sitting on the front porch for days.

Hmmm, what do I want to order?
I'm in the other boat! Have a bonus from work burning a hole in my pocket and I'm heading to IL in a few days.

Maybe if I wait long enough I won't make any terribly impulsive purchases
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Yeah state highway signs have the beehive.
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Thanks, I sort of remembered a LDS non-secular tint to it. Makes sense in Utah.

On that note, when driving out there (from California), I found it quite interesting that you cross state lines from NV to AZ then Utah... So weird to go from the land of excess and partying to the land of renunciation and depravity (IMO). I'm certainly no puritan, so that's just my take. My parents were hippies in the Bay Area in the 70s. Let's just say I took after them.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
Docking in Ft. Lauderdale in 20 hours. I can resume ordering bike stuff online and not worry about the packages possibly sitting on the front porch for days.

Hmmm, what do I want to order?
One of my credit cards just let me have 0% APR for 6 months (I always thought you had to go shop for a new card to get that!) so I should probably put something on there. I've been looking at some land out by Winslow, I guess I could put half on the credit card and sell some stocks to pay for the other half.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
I'm in the other boat! Have a bonus from work burning a hole in my pocket and I'm heading to IL in a few days.

Maybe if I wait long enough I won't make any terribly impulsive purchases
Rockford, right? That’s too far to have stuff delivered to my place for pick up. Too bad.

First thing I’m going to order are Fizik shoes that LAJ rooted out for me.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
Thanks, I sort of remembered a LDS non-secular tint to it. Makes sense in Utah.

On that note, when driving out there (from California), I found it quite interesting that you cross state lines from NV to AZ then Utah... So weird to go from the land of excess and partying to the land of renunciation and depravity (IMO). I'm certainly no puritan, so that's just my take. My parents were hippies in the Bay Area in the 70s. Let's just say I took after them.
I will try to stay out of religion, but LDS is an interesting organization. I read a really good book by Jon Krakauer called "Under the Banner of Heaven" a few years back, it was quite interesting. The Netflix Mini-Series was "inspired" by the book but quite different IMO.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I've been looking at some land out by Winslow, I guess I could put half on the credit card and sell some stocks to pay for the other half.
Land for what purpose?
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Land for what purpose?
Just hanging out on, living life, etc. $15k for 0.28 acres in town with city water or $20k for 20 acres about 5 miles outta town, but would have to haul water to.

Oooh, here's 80 acres for only $30k. Too far from town for me though. I like driving dirt roads but not THAT much.


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Heidi wants a new, faster MacBook computer. It was suggested I take her to the Apple store in Delaware to save on the sales tax.

The only one in Delaware is in the Christiana Mall. What kind of an idiot would go to a big shopping mall the week before Xmas?

raises hand. I've still got to finish the last of my xmas shopping for my son. My pay comes in tomorrow. So last minute shopping it is.
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