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Old 10-23-23, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Nope. Just have a neighbour come by and check on its food, water, and litter box every day or two.
That works with a cat but, bottom line, a dog doesn't use litter boxes.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
I drink Diet Coke. Innards are still working fine.
Do you have a button on your desk for that?
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
I drink Diet Coke. Innards are still working fine.
Diet soda is probably relatively harmless. It's not GOOD for you but probably only a tiny bad.

Regular soda is loaded with sugar/HFCS and should be taken sparingly and/or during/after high intensity exercise.

I probably have one regular soda annually.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Indeed.
Did you have one after your recent ride?
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It's the artificial sweeteners that make Diet Coke even worse than regular coke.

Water is your friend.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Litter box? Do you have a dog or a cat??
It doesn't know. It has species identification issues.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
It's the artificial sweeteners that make Diet Coke even worse than regular coke.

Water is your friend.
I drink water all day at my desk or at home. I drink Diet Coke with my lunch typically.

It's my caffeine boost as I don't drink coffee or tea.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize2
Did you have one after your recent ride?
Heavens no. At best (worst?) I might have a gatorade on a hot day after a softball game, but under most conditions it's just water.

​​​​​​​It might be why I frequently shock medical people when they see how old I am on the medical charts.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
Had to look that up. I'll admit it was a bit of a humblebrag. I wanted 4.5 or higher (my FTP).
Hey I could never do much above tempo indoors, for whatever reason.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Diet soda is probably relatively harmless. It's not GOOD for you but probably only a tiny bad.
So a six-pack isn't going to give me a disease? Hopefully they will be a few more with Squirrel TDs before the end of the season.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
I drink water all day at my desk or at home. I drink Diet Coke with my lunch typically.

It's my caffeine boost as I don't drink coffee or tea.
Oh my! How did you get through law school without coffee to keep the lids open while doing all that reading? And you did it before they developed Red Bull.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Oh my! How did you get through law school without coffee to keep the lids open while doing all that reading? And you did it before they developed Red Bull.
I don't know! I've never acquired the taste for coffee. I drank iced tea when I was younger, but not much (haven't in the last 25 years). Never had a problem at school. Maybe because I was afraid of failing if I didn't keep at it?
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Looks like energy drinks are not good for you:

Several incidences of clinically obvious acute liver damage, which may be severe and end in death or urgent liver transplantation, have been related to excessive energy drink use.13 It is unclear which components of energy drinks cause liver damage, and caffeine alone has not been related to liver damage.

Are Energy Drinks Bad for Your Liver? Let’s Find Out Here! (klarity.health)
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Oh my! How did you get through law school without coffee to keep the lids open while doing all that reading? And you did it before they developed Red Bull.
That stuff is foul. Excellent F1 livery, terrible drink.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
So a six-pack isn't going to give me a disease? Hopefully they will be a few more with Squirrel TDs before the end of the season.
I expect in the grand scheme of things, it's relatively harmless for a six pack.

Don't let this become a habit.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Probably a wise move. Got tix??
As noted, I subsequently saw a new piece saying they are going to grease this afternoon.

I am too cheap to spring for tickets for something like that. I'll start watching from the comfort of my own couch. If it looks promising, I might walk to my local for the end of the game. It has several TVs outside, so if its packed, it won't matter. And I get drinks for free from my bartender friend who is sticking around in town to work tonight and tomorrow. (She lives in Arkansas now but comes back every other week to work,)
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Originally Posted by datlas
Diet soda is probably relatively harmless. It's not GOOD for you but probably only a tiny bad.

Regular soda is loaded with sugar/HFCS and should be taken sparingly and/or during/after high intensity exercise.

I probably have one regular soda annually.

Many, many years ago, I asked my old family doc (I really miss that guy)if diet soda was bad for me and he replied that he hoped not because he had a 32 oz diet "Big Gulp" on his office desk at the moment.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
It might be why I frequently shock medical people when they see how old I am on the medical charts.
​​​​​​​They think you look older?
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Got the green light from my wife to ride outside this morning before work. Despite the weather report calling for scattered showers, I headed out, only to get rained on. I guess that's what I get for trash-talking rain rides; I hope you're happy bampilot06 and genejockey .

Didn't get soaked though. It was more of an on/off drizzle, in patchy clouds. In moments, it was almost Hawaiian: light drizzle, warm (ish) temps, sun poking through here and there. At times when I was pointed east, the sun would illuminate the showers which provided for a pleasant backdrop.
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In other news, I've been seeing 143# on the scale a lot the last week. I don't get it. Riding and sleep are down compared to usual. In 2019 when I wanted to upgrade from cat 3, I lost 10 lbs and have been hanging at 145 - 150 lbs ever since. Never below, usually in the mid/high of that range.

I think it's b/c my overall caloric throughput (in/out) and life stress/energy expenditure is down, from working less and being home more. Lower inflammation and bloating. That's my theory at least.

I should go try to set some PRs up climbs before this fitness bank dwindles more significantly!
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Originally Posted by BillyD
That works with a cat but, bottom line, a dog doesn't use litter boxes.
Except to find snacks.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
Got the green light from my wife to ride outside this morning before work. Despite the weather report calling for scattered showers, I headed out, only to get rained on. I guess that's what I get for trash-talking rain rides; I hope you're happy bampilot06 and genejockey .

Didn't get soaked though. It was more of an on/off drizzle, in patchy clouds. In moments, it was almost Hawaiian: light drizzle, warm (ish) temps, sun poking through here and there. At times when I was pointed east, the sun would illuminate the showers which provided for a pleasant backdrop.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
Got the green light from my wife to ride outside this morning before work. Despite the weather report calling for scattered showers, I headed out, only to get rained on. I guess that's what I get for trash-talking rain rides; I hope you're happy bampilot06 and genejockey .

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Rain north and south but nothing here. Prognosticators said it could happen but the sun is out.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Diet soda is probably relatively harmless. It's not GOOD for you but probably only a tiny bad.

Regular soda is loaded with sugar/HFCS and should be taken sparingly and/or during/after high intensity exercise.

I probably have one regular soda annually.
Sugar is just fuel. The problem is if you don't burn it off.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
That stuff is foul. Excellent F1 livery, terrible drink.
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Several incidences of clinically obvious acute liver damage, which may be severe and end in death or urgent liver transplantation, have been related to excessive energy drink use.13 It is unclear which components of energy drinks cause liver damage, and caffeine alone has not been related to liver damage.

Are Energy Drinks Bad for Your Liver? Let’s Find Out Here! (klarity.health)
Nice juxtaposition of "livery" and "liver damage".
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