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Old 08-06-05, 10:58 PM
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Categorize this climb?

Would anyone like to guess a Tour de France categorization for this climb? 1? 2?

Road to the Mt. Baker ski area chalet, northwest washington state:

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Way off the charts!
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Sheyat.... Thats HC for sure... Where is that crazyman, Terry...
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Originally Posted by skinnyone
Sheyat.... Thats HC for sure... Where is that crazyman, Terry...
The last few miles (on the eastern side of that map) are really nuts - I've driven it in winter, the switchbacks have some very sharp turns. Mt. Baker gets a lot of snow:

NOAA, Monday, Aug. 1, 1999 – It's official.

Mt. Baker, Wash., has set a new record for the most snowfall ever measured in the United States in a single season, the U.S. Commerce Department's National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reported Monday.

The Mt. Baker Ski Area in northwestern Washington State reported 1,140 inches of snowfall for the 1998-99 snowfall season.

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with a grade of 21.8%, i believe it is at a grade where you must stand in order to not fall over backwards (20% the approx. threshold for this, i believe). That's quite a climb!!
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Originally Posted by koreansteve
with a grade of 21.8%, i believe it is at a grade where you must stand in order to not fall over backwards (20% the approx. threshold for this, i believe). That's quite a climb!!
I think the topo map is somehow lying, or measuring grades that don't exist... There's no way it's 21%, but I could see the eastern half of the route matching the Col du Galibier in average grade. (7.5 percent???). There are shuttle bus services that use full size Blue Bird schoolbuses to the top, which would never make it up a 21% grade.
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Originally Posted by thewalrus
I think the topo map is somehow lying, or measuring grades that don't exist... There's no way it's 21%, but I could see the eastern half of the route matching the Col du Galibier in average grade. (7.5 percent???). There are shuttle bus services that use full size Blue Bird schoolbuses to the top, which would never make it up a 21% grade.
That last little part looks like it's almost 21+%.
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Yeah... it's seems wrong in the same way that Delorme TOPO USA is for Hurricane Ridge WA. Again it's probably due to sh*tty interpolation from USGS topo data.

Hurricane Ridge is 5230 ft from sea level and a fairly constant 6-7% for the first 10 km or so then 5.5% to the summit. Total distance is 31 km. TOPO USA says 11% (bull) with pitches of 20+% (again, bull... I've ridden it... no part of that hill is over 8 or 9 %)

Looking at that Mt. Baker climb: overall alt. change of 5000 ft and 24.55 mi (39.28 km) it's less severe (overall) than Hurricane Ridge (which comparing to TdF climbs this year is roughly a Cat. 1 climb). However, I don't like the look of those switchbacks near the top

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Category 1 or HC climb, but the reported ascent amount seems high.

If the road starts around 1000' and ends around 5000', I doubt the total ascent is 7900'. There appear to be no major intermediate descents.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
I doubt the total ascent is 7900'. There appear to be no major intermediate descents.
It's the noise. Software like this does a poor job of filtering all the little variations along the path and ends up adding a lot of 1 ft "climbs".
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The last 10 miles are a major ouch fest. It's a ski resort, those slopes better be 45 degrees or they'd be out of business.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
Category 1 or HC climb, but the reported ascent amount seems high.

If the road starts around 1000' and ends around 5000', I doubt the total ascent is 7900'. There appear to be no major intermediate descents.
The ski chalet itself is at 3500 feet elevation:

Base Elevation: 3,500 feet
Mid Elevation: 4,300 feet
Summit Elevation: 5,050 feet

https://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache...levation&hl=en
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