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WTF is happening to roadie outfits/brands? more flashy more expensive?

Old 04-15-24, 11:55 PM
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Adidas does cycling clothes and they always have sales. I usually stock up end of year and buy several bibs, jerseys and road/gravel shoes. I like their stuff because it's not that common, fit is actually really good, they drop prices to clear inventory (cycling is just a side gig for them) and you get street cred amongst the fixed/urban cyclists crowd...I've actually have had people come up to me to compliment me in my kit!

Also I only air dry my bike kit after a wash. I also use nylon sticker patches to fix any small tears and rotate my shoes to minimize wear. I tend to go a size smaller to have a good fit. I've also swapped over to 3D printed bike saddles and that really helps reduce friction wear on my bibs.
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Originally Posted by elcruxio
Yeah we Europeans can mix and match our various languages. It's fun.
I know, I was thinking that maybe there is another meaning for Pas in Danish
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Originally Posted by TMonk
The durability argument is a good one. Esp with bibs. Jerseys can last basically forever IME. I'm still at a point where I'm getting team issued stuff each season, but that may or may not last forever. Hopefully I have another decade or two of Masters racing in me. Until then, I'll ride with what I'm provided, and it ain't boutique by any means.
I bought summer jersey from q365 for 200eur, which was most expensive purchase, and it really worked in a heat. however jersey 'survived' one season (3-4 months), next summer it was already stretched, a bit yellowish and didn't protect from the sun so much.
In comparison, a few of my 'climbers jerseys' for almost 1/3 of that price are still intact after 3 years. (I hand wash my stuff to prolong longetivity and I do >1000km/month)
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Originally Posted by razorjack
I know, I was thinking that maybe there is another meaning for Pas in Danish
I dated a Swedish au pair during the summer of ‘88. I went off to law school at the University of Pittsburgh and she went home. That fall, I sent her a Pitt t-shirt for her birthday having no idea it means prick as that word is often used in English.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Rapha and Assos are two faves
Same here and I find them good value in the sales.

Another brand worth looking at is 7-mesh. I have one of their "cheaper" jerseys and their regular bib shorts and both are Assos level quality. Very understated branding too without any fonts, so the OP should approve!

Le Col stuff is not bad either, but I find their bib short pads a bit too thick and spongy for my liking. It's a shame because otherwise the fit is perfect for me and they wear really well. Their jerseys are good too and actually pretty cheap when on sale plus the Strava £50 discount.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
I dated a Swedish au pair during the summer of ‘88. I went off to law school at the University of Pittsburgh and she went home. That fall, I sent her a Pitt t-shirt for her birthday having no idea it means prick as that word is often used in English.
If you had dated her long enough, you would have learned the meaning of that word.
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Originally Posted by razorjack
I see so many ppl riding in Pas Normal Studios jerseys and bib shorts, however they look completely tasteless.... just big white letters (they could use comic sans font as well....) on the back, no style at all.
Rapha started following the trend, before there was smaller 'rapha' logotype in a nice looking font, now 'rapha' logotype is bigger and in a few places and with tasteless font...
Is it just to show off that you paid stupid money (looking at PAS) for your outfit ?
(I'd understand if there is 2x difference in performance etc. but there is non at the end, comparing to few other a bit more expensive brands (like Castelli or Sportful).

You should write to TREK. They have the ugliest and biggest writings I've ever seen on a bike!

FYI, people can say what they want, but more expensive clothes = better.

My PNS bibs remain comfy even after 7+ hours of riding. Same for my PNS jerseys.
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Originally Posted by razorjack

Wait, that's "flashy"?

Please post a photo of your closet.
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Originally Posted by john m flores
Wait, that's "flashy"?
Yes, the font is offensive.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Yes, the font is offensive.
Wait, you used the word offended? In 2024, that means the entire world must stop doing whatever its doing
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Originally Posted by eduskator
Wait, you used the word offended? In 2024, that means the entire world must stop doing whatever its doing
No, that’s only if you feel threatened by the font.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
No, that’s only if you feel threatened by the font.
I'm offended. Now, I feel harassed.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Yes, the font is offensive.
Looks like a Helvetica knockoff. Helvetica is about the most generic understated font in existence, which seems to go with their muted colors. Understood someone might like brighter colors and flashier fonts, but offended? It's just the $$$$, right?
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Originally Posted by razorjack
I bought summer jersey from q365 for 200eur, which was most expensive purchase, and it really worked in a heat. however jersey 'survived' one season (3-4 months), next summer it was already stretched, a bit yellowish and didn't protect from the sun so much.
In comparison, a few of my 'climbers jerseys' for almost 1/3 of that price are still intact after 3 years. (I hand wash my stuff to prolong longetivity and I do >1000km/month)
Good point. Now that you mention, any jersey that I've hung onto for sentimental reasons hasn't been a super lightweight, racey one. And, they don't get used super frequently.... So I rescind my statement: jerseys def. don't last forever with continued wear.
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Here's this year's team kit. I will donate it at the end of the season. Pactimo seems to change their stitching patterns and fit slightly each year, which is a bit annoying TBH. Not sure if that is affecting other bulk orders.

For the secondary kit items, I love Defeet stuff! Esp the wool socks. But also: warmers, gloves etc.

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My LSAH tie die kit should be arriving any day. Can't wait to wear it. Flashy, perhaps garish, stupidly expensive, and worth every penny.

LSAH Jersey

I'm taking notes on the long distance comfort recommendations, keep them coming .

Smiles and miles.

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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Hopefully the OP never sees any of the countless road bikes from 1985 thru 2018 with no fewer than 6 brand logos on the frame and fork. Their mind might melt.
The LeMond that I had flaunted ten + head badge + two model name. My Gios Compact has Twelve + head badge + model name
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Originally Posted by john m flores
Wait, that's "flashy"?
Please post a photo of your closet.
sorry, you are right, wrong wording, I was referring more to tasteless massive text on clothing
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Originally Posted by razorjack
sorry, you are right, wrong wording, I was referring more to tasteless massive text on clothing
It's obviously a style that you hate, but I wouldn't call it tasteless.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
It's obviously a style that you hate, but I wouldn't call it tasteless.
… nor massive.
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Originally Posted by Steel Charlie
The LeMond that I had flaunted ten + head badge + two model name. My Gios Compact has Twelve + head badge + model name
ha, yeah I went conservative on the number of logos. The bikes with a dozen on the frame and fork are excessive even for me.
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To put some context to the thread, how many jerseys, bibs/shorts and cycling socks does average Joe/Jill have in their rotation? I'm not talking about clothes(jerseys) they keep for whatever reason. I'm talking strictly kit in active rotation. Given how often a rider rides per week, how much kit to support that?
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Originally Posted by razorjack
sorry, you are right, wrong wording, I was referring more to tasteless massive text on clothing
So you love this, right?

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Originally Posted by seypat
To put some context to the thread, how many jerseys, bibs/shorts and cycling socks does average Joe/Jill have in their rotation? I'm not talking about clothes(jerseys) they keep for whatever reason. I'm talking strictly kit in active rotation. Given how often a rider rides per week, how much kit to support that?
3-4, may-be? At this price tag, it depends on the annual income for sure.

For my part, I got 3 pairs of very good bibs and around 10 good jerseys.
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