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WTF is happening to roadie outfits/brands? more flashy more expensive?

Old 04-16-24, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by eduskator
3-4, may-be? At this price tag, it depends on the annual income for sure.

For my part, I got 3 pairs of very good bibs and around 10 good jerseys.
So, using you as an example, how many rides per week do you take? I'm trying to get a sense of how often riders rotate? Some may one do laundry once a week. There's a guy at my gym that wears the same shirt 4-5 times a week. During cycling season, the same kit 4-5 days in a row. In fact, I've only seen him in one cycling outfit for about 3 years now. The dude's not poor either.

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Originally Posted by TMonk
Here's this year's team kit. I will donate it at the end of the season. Pactimo seems to change their stitching patterns and fit slightly each year, which is a bit annoying TBH. Not sure if that is affecting other bulk orders.

For the secondary kit items, I love Defeet stuff! Esp the wool socks. But also: warmers, gloves etc.

I have a healthy dose of Pactimo stuff in my closet (standard stuff, not team custom). I like the fit of their Summit "Aero" jersey a lot. The bibs are decent, but nothing special. I really like the vest, jacket, and LS thermal jersey.

My team/club uses Voler. It's okay, but there's always some little thing that isn't quite right. On our newest jersey, the top of the pockets is just a little too high, and getting into the pocket while riding ends up pulling on it quite hard, and the jersey is ripping at the top corners of each pocket. On many other manufacturers, there's additional reinforcement at these points. Voler does not. have that reinforcement.
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Originally Posted by seypat
To put some context to the thread, how many jerseys, bibs/shorts and cycling socks does average Joe/Jill have in their rotation? I'm not talking about clothes(jerseys) they keep for whatever reason. I'm talking strictly kit in active rotation. Given how often a rider rides per week, how much kit to support that?
Too many. I went on a bike clothing binge for a while. That said, I like having options.

Also, there's different jerseys in my rotation at different times of year, depending on the weather. Recently, my two LS thermal jerseys have been getting a lot of use. That's going to come to a stop (immediately, it appears). My lighter-weight, well-ventilated jerseys will get some play time.
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Originally Posted by seypat
To put some context to the thread, how many jerseys, bibs/shorts and cycling socks does average Joe/Jill have in their rotation? I'm not talking about clothes(jerseys) they keep for whatever reason. I'm talking strictly kit in active rotation. Given how often a rider rides per week, how much kit to support that?
About half a dozen. I ride at least 5 times a week and wash them all together when I run out. The quality stuff lasts for years in this rotation, with little sign of wear and tear. Right now I could do with refreshing my stock of cycling socks as some are about 4 years old. My bibs and jerseys are all fine. The oldest are about 5 years and the newest about 2 years old.
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Originally Posted by seypat
To put some context to the thread, how many jerseys, bibs/shorts and cycling socks does average Joe/Jill have in their rotation? I'm not talking about clothes(jerseys) they keep for whatever reason. I'm talking strictly kit in active rotation. Given how often a rider rides per week, how much kit to support that?
Not going to count, but I've got at least:
12x pair of bibshorts
4x pair of bibtights/bibknickers
25+ short-sleeve jerseys
8+ long-sleeve jerseys
3-4 jackets of various thicknesses and levels of water-resistance, several vests, etc.
Many baselayers, socks, caps, etc.

Generally riding 8,000+ miles per year in all sorts of weather -- temps from 35 to 100+ fahrenheit.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Not going to count, but I've got at least:
12x pair of bibshorts
4x pair of bibtights/bibknickers
25+ short-sleeve jerseys
8+ long-sleeve jerseys
3-4 jackets of various thicknesses and levels of water-resistance, several vests, etc.
Many baselayers, socks, caps, etc.

Generally riding 8,000+ miles per year in all sorts of weather -- temps from 35 to 100+ fahrenheit.
All of that is in active rotation during the different seasons?
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Originally Posted by seypat
All of that is in active rotation during the different seasons?
Yeah, most of it. Probably a few of the older jerseys don't see much use anymore -- especially the SS jerseys, since I have so many of those. I sometimes give them away to friends who have less kit.
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Originally Posted by seypat
So, using you as an example, how many rides per week do you take? I'm trying to get a sense of how often riders rotate? Some may one do laundry once a week. There's a guy at my gym that wears the same shirt 4-5 times a week. During cycling season, the same kit 4-5 days in a row. In fact, I've only seen him in one cycling outfit for about 3 years now. The dude's not poor either.
4-5 rides per week depending on weather + I use older bibs for Zwifting.

I also use my bibs and jerseys 2-3x before washing them unless it's a long ride on a hot day. I don't normally wear the same kit 2 rides in a row, but it happens.
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Originally Posted by eduskator
I also use my bibs and jerseys 2-3x before washing them unless it's a long ride on a hot day. I don't normally wear the same kit 2 rides in a row, but it happens.
ick.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
Here's this year's team kit. I will donate it at the end of the season. Pactimo seems to change their stitching patterns and fit slightly each year, which is a bit annoying TBH. Not sure if that is affecting other bulk orders.

For the secondary kit items, I love Defeet stuff! Esp the wool socks. But also: warmers, gloves etc.

Did they change it again this year? I liked the Summit Aero from 2 years ago- the PAC aero jersey I got last year seemed cut funny
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Originally Posted by eduskator
Wait, you used the word offended? In 2024, that means the entire world must stop doing whatever its doing
No, to do that he has to use the magic word, "triggered."

"Offended" means everyone else much gang up and demean the offendee, but is nowhere near as serious as "triggered."

/rant off.
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phrantic09 Eric F yeah, it's the summit aero stuff. Nice as far as generic kit goes, or at least not too crappy. And yeah it is different again - it's gotten a bit smaller the last two seasons I think. I still do S jersey and M bibs, S one-piece race suit, XS skinsuit (time trialing only)
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Originally Posted by TMonk
phrantic09 Eric F yeah, it's the summit aero stuff. Nice as far as generic kit goes, or at least not too crappy. And yeah it is different again - it's gotten a bit smaller the last two seasons I think. I still do S jersey and M bibs, S one-piece race suit, XS skinsuit (time trialing only)
I'm a bit thicker than you (mostly wide shoulders). Pactimo's XL "Aero" cut gives me the fit I want. I got mine within the last year, so I guess it's the newer pattern. I like the feel of the fabric on Le Col jerseys best (of the stuff I have), but they're a bit too long, leaving a bunched up bit around my waist. La Passione is right there with Pactimo for preferred fit on my body. NeoPro is close behind.
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If you had dated her long enough, you would have learned the meaning of that word.
Alas. “Summer heat, boiling the meat…”. She was a dish. I did go over there during the holidays only to discover that she was only average by Swedish standards.
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i've notice less if any material shrinkage with better reputable brands.

I tend to do the "light" test with older attire... If you can easily see light bleeding thru, it's time to toss it.
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i've notice less if any material shrinkage with better reputable brands.
Most cycling apparel is made of spandex, which does not shrink.
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Really? Buy what you like (fit & fashion), at the price you're comfortable with, for the reasons which make sense for you.
and, sometimes you get better than what you expected and sometimes worse...
more reasons under the sun for what people wear or do...
not pleasing to you, look somewhere else, you'll have a much better day.
now to take this down to 'Ground Zero'
someone thought this was 'excellent', I didn't even know this existed, until today... learn something new every day... and then, maybe not.... LOL!

oh boy...
Ride On
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Most cycling apparel is made of spandex, which does not shrink.
All of my cycling jerseys have shrunk over time, although only around the midsection.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
All of my cycling jerseys have shrunk over time, although only around the midsection.
Yeah, that has been known to happen.
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All of my cycling jerseys have shrunk over time, although only around the midsection.
Yet another advantage of wool. When you claim your wool jersey shrunk, it's entirely plausible.
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Mine shrinks when I get in the pool.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Just when I thought it was safe to go outside again, now I have to worry about the fonts on other cyclists' jerseys.
as long as they have a shirt on, and the type has no serifs it’s safe to draft them!
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as long as they have a shirt on, and the type has no serifs it’s safe to draft them!
That opens another can of worms; which is faster, sans serif (less weight) or italics (more aerodynamic)?
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Originally Posted by seypat
To put some context to the thread, how many jerseys, bibs/shorts and cycling socks does average Joe/Jill have in their rotation? I'm not talking about clothes(jerseys) they keep for whatever reason. I'm talking strictly kit in active rotation. Given how often a rider rides per week, how much kit to support that?
my riding has been cut way back but when i was doing a steady 500 miles a month, for a couple years, i had three pairs of shorts (the rapha ones with mesh pockets), 4-5 short sleeve technical shirts, 4-5 long sleeve, an one lightweight jacket. rotate the shirts, wash in a batch every three weeks or so, wash the shorts by hand in the sink after each ride and hang to dry. there would always be a clean dry pair. no items showed any meaningful wear after 10,000 + miles on the system, so even at $100/shorts and $50/shirt the life cycle cost of the system was trending towards perhaps twenty cents a day.
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