How much did you pay for your road bike?
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I would say, teach your kids to treat their bikes like trash, then they wont have money for drugs.
If the love their equipment, it will last years and years. |
TEACH YOUR KIDS TO LOVE VINTAGE CARS and they will never have money.
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I'm wondering at which point people would rather get something else.
For me it's about $2,000. I'd probably get a new graphics card and water cooling parts instead. |
Originally Posted by 2muchroad
(Post 23228347)
I'm wondering at which point people would rather get something else.
For me it's about $2,000. I'd probably get a new graphics card and water cooling parts instead. |
Originally Posted by Eric F
(Post 23228376)
I'm trying to understand...If a bicycle is over $2000, you'd rather get computer parts?
You don't have a limit? |
Originally Posted by 2muchroad
(Post 23228383)
Definitely. :rolleyes:
You don't have a limit? If upgrading computer parts brings you more enjoyment that bicycles, have at it. |
Why on Earth would anyone care what anyone else paid for a bike -- or for any other object?
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Originally Posted by Koyote
(Post 23228418)
Why on Earth would anyone care what anyone else paid for a bike -- or for any other object?
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Were you not around for this thread? People care for some unknown reason.
https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycl...ht-wheels.html |
I don't understand why there is a picture with [size=33px]15 mtb forks in the road forum.
I really don't understand why the pic is here at all, but especially considering all the mtb components in display. As for what I paid- I have a lot of road bikes and they cost different amounts. All were built from frameset, and one was a frameset I built. The range for my current group of bikes is $150 to $4000ish. I honestly don't know the full cost of one of em and don't have the interest in adding everything up to see. [/size] |
Originally Posted by Eric F
(Post 23228405)
I don't have the financial capacity to spend $10k+ on a bike, but if I did, I probably would. $2000 doesn't seem unreasonable to me for someone to spend on a pair of wheels. Behind taking care of the needs of my family and house, bikes are my current #1 passion, and I enjoy riding high-quality machines at the limits of what my body is capable of. Good bikes help me get the most from my fitness and skills, and that brings me joy.
Originally Posted by Eric F
(Post 23228405)
If upgrading computer parts brings you more enjoyment that bicycles, have at it.
For me it's not about enjoyment, but profitability and value. I am talking about used bikes, but $2000 is a threshold where I believe that the performance levels of certain bike parts and their cost/benefit ratio starts to reach a point of diminishing returns. Of course you can spend $10,000 on a road bike, but the question for me personally would be whether there is an actual, justifiable performance advantage compared to a more cost effective solution. And the answer is no, in my opinion. |
Originally Posted by 2muchroad
(Post 23228448)
I'm just wondering, you self-admittedly ride bikes to push the limit of what your body is capable of, but do you believe that a bike in your budget range, let's say $5,000, would help you achieve quantifiably better fitness results than a $2,000 bike could?
Originally Posted by 2muchroad
(Post 23228448)
I am talking about used bikes, but $2000 is a threshold where I believe that the performance levels of certain bike parts and their cost/benefit ratio starts to reach a point of diminishing returns.
Originally Posted by 2muchroad
(Post 23228448)
Of course you can spend $10,000 on a road bike, but the question for me personally would be whether there is an actual, justifiable performance advantage compared to a more cost effective solution. And the answer is no, in my opinion.
This topic has been done many times on bf. It's always (ALWAYS) initiated by an OP who thinks that no one "needs" a bike that is more expensive than the OP's. It never goes in the opposite direction, with posters trying to convince others to purchase more expensive bikes. Each individual is the best arbiter of his/her priorities, preferences, and budget constraints -- and thus each of us spends our money differently than other individuals. Some people are mature and rational enough to understand this...And others make judgments. |
Venge Expert (I forget the year) - $900-something. Team deal that I bought at cost at end of the season. This was pre-pandemic when there was enough supply for most elite teams to get team issued bikes. I've put another $1500 or so into it (used carbon wheels, narrower carbon bars). The bike is a total POS and rides like crap, but it's fast and holds speed wheel (latex tubes, aero bits all over)
2022 TCR Advanced Pro - $5k or so. Bought the frameset on a labor day deal, and a brand new complete Ultegra Di2 12-sp group from the shop. The other stuff I either already had or was bought used I also have a track bike, a TT bike and a MTB. So let's just leave this at road :) |
I'm just gonna add a couple of global notes here:
1) No one will argue that 10k (or even 5k) is past the point of diminishing returns for bikes. Peak value is a couple tiers below top component spec, 105 level for Shimano, Rival level for Sram etc 2) Performance is one (of many) reasons to spend money on bicycles |
Originally Posted by TMonk
(Post 23228476)
Venge Expert (I forget the year) - $900-something. Team deal that I bought at cost at end of the season. This was pre-pandemic when there was enough supply for most elite teams to get team issued bikes. I've put another $1500 or so into it (used carbon wheels, narrower carbon bars). The bike is a total POS and rides like crap, but it's fast and holds speed wheel (latex tubes, aero bits all over)
2022 TCR Advanced Pro - $5k or so. Bought the frameset on a labor day deal, and a brand new complete Ultegra Di2 12-sp group from the shop. The other stuff I either already had or was bought used I also have a track bike, a TT bike and a MTB. So let's just leave this at road :) Starting a build from scratch with a nice frame is the way to go, I was trying to do something like that as well with the ALR 5, but ended up getting the whole thing. 5K brand new isn't crazy, especially with Di2 groupset and carbon around the clock. Gotta look amazing.:thumb: Would you happen to have a picture by any chance?
Originally Posted by TMonk
(Post 23228479)
I'm just gonna add a couple of global notes here:
1) No one will argue that 10k (or even 5k) is past the point of diminishing returns for bikes. Peak value is a couple tiers below top component spec, 105 level for Shimano, Rival level for Sram etc 2) Performance is one (of many) reasons to spend money on bicycles |
Much much more than my riding ability.....
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Originally Posted by shapiroeric
(Post 23228529)
Much much more than my riding ability.....
What would you say is a reasonable amount to maximize value? |
Originally Posted by 2muchroad
(Post 23228544)
I understand what you mean. :rolleyes:
What would you say is a reasonable amount to maximize value? |
Originally Posted by shapiroeric
(Post 23228549)
What you can comfortably afford knowing that you will spend more over the years on stuff you don't need but is "cool"....Listen I don't know a lot but I do know that everything but the frame is easy to upgrade.....
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My most expensive Road Bike purchase was in the 70's. 375.00 USD plus a few other things in trade.
A "la migliore, tutti fatto a mano, tutti Compagnolo LIotto" built by Giovani Liotto himself in Vicenza Italy. The frame was built for my odd ball American dimensions and my older racing age. I was 22 years old. In Italy thats to old to start racing. Rats, some time in the mid 80's it was stolen... Liotto https://www.liotto.com/bici/gino-60 |
How much did you pay for your road bike?
More than what person A thinks is reasonable, but less than what person B thinks is reasonable. And yet, they're both sure that they're right. |
Originally Posted by zandoval
(Post 23228557)
My most expensive Road Bike purchase was in the 70's. 375.00 USD plus a few other things in trade.
A "la migliore, tutti fatto a mano, tutti Compagnolo LIotto" built by Giovani Liotto himself in Vicenza Italy. The frame was built for my odd ball American dimensions and my older racing age. I was 22 years old. In Italy thats to old to start racing. Rats, some time in the mid 80's it was stolen... Liotto https://www.liotto.com/bici/gino-60 |
Originally Posted by WaveyGravey
(Post 23228306)
TEACH YOUR KIDS TO LOVE VINTAGE CARS and they will never have money.
It also depends on one's standards. For example:
I guess you mean 'vintage [something besides Japanese] cars'. ;) |
Originally Posted by 2muchroad
(Post 23228448)
I'm just wondering, you self-admittedly ride bikes to push the limit of what your body is capable of, but do you believe that a bike in your budget range, let's say $5,000, would help you achieve quantifiably better fitness results than a $2,000 bike could?
For me it's not about enjoyment, but profitability and value. I am talking about used bikes, but $2000 is a threshold where I believe that the performance levels of certain bike parts and their cost/benefit ratio starts to reach a point of diminishing returns. Of course you can spend $10,000 on a road bike, but the question for me personally would be whether there is an actual, justifiable performance advantage compared to a more cost effective solution. And the answer is no, in my opinion. The cost of one bike over another does not always need to be justified by quantifiable performance gains. For me, my bike purchases are all about my personal enjoyment. They serve my needs for the way I want to ride, and the way I want my bike to perform. I buy bikes that are exciting to me (even just to look at), and inspire me to want to ride. My bikes excite me in the same way sports cars do. I have bought used high-end bikes because I can get a better bike (lighter, higher-quality components, better wheels) for a lot less money than buying new. This is primarily budget-driven. I have nothing against new bikes. I also could not care less about making any kind of profit, because I don't ever buy a bike with the intent to sell it. My 3 most-ridden bikes were all purchased used, at less than half of their original cost. (EDIT: On my road bike, I've only changed the tires and cockpit. On my MTB, I changed tires, cranks, seatpost, seat, stem, and added a power meter). However, I didn't know what I didn't know about gravel bikes, so I jumped in on a used bike that was a very good deal, started to figure out what I liked and didn't like, and began replacing things. I eventually ended up replacing everything, including the frame, and spent new-bike money doing it, but I ended up with a bike that is perfect in all the little details that make a difference in my enjoyment of the ride. I don't care that I probably could have done it a cheaper way. The learning process that went on during the process is also valuable to me. |
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