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Old 08-19-05, 06:26 PM
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Another water bottle thread

I was in a sporting goods store and saw some really nice Nike sport water bottles. Due to the tapered shape, it didn't look like a standard water bottle cage would hold them very well. Is anyone using this bottle on a bike? They had a really cool automatic spout that opened when you squeeze... are there any other water bottles out there with this kind of spout?

I'm just not happy with the standard bottles I've tried... maybe I'm not spending enough but the spouts are hard to open (and close) when on the move and also the stupid things always seem to leak. Anyone have a bottle they are really happy with?
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How many ounces does this bottle hold?
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Old 08-19-05, 06:31 PM
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Think the cage would hold them but bottles from my LBS are cheaper
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I have this exact bottle and used it on yesterday's ride. Neither the tapered shape nor the "elliptical" cross section of the bottle (can't see that in the picture) makes them insecure in the cage. I like the rubberized surfaces for grip. The auto spout thing works well, although once you get to the last 1/4 of the bottle you need more pressure to get the liquid out.

My old Bianchi traditional bottle was softer plastic and was easier to use than this, but smaller capacity. All in all, not a bad alternative but not such a revolution that I'd write home to mom about it.

No matter what, a Camelbak is a better option on long rides.
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Originally Posted by mikemets5
How many ounces does this bottle hold?
I think it's 20 oz
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- for $1 more than the Nike bottle you can get an insulated Polar bottle in same size... (i freeze two of 'em half full, fill with dihydrogen oxide before leaving the house, and still have a cold drink several hours later, even in 95F temps)
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Doesn't seem worth the $7 from my perspective. You can get traditional bottles for $2 at the LBS. Or you could stand near the feed zone of your local pro race and get one for free. (Just make sure you wash it with hot water before using it.)
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Originally Posted by linux_author
- for $1 more than the Nike bottle you can get an insulated Polar bottle in same size... (i freeze two of 'em half full, fill with dihydrogen oxide before leaving the house, and still have a cold drink several hours later, even in 95F temps)
I actually have a polar water bottle... they are definitely great quality but a little hard to use on the road. I guess I was intrigued by the automatic spout of the Nike bottle.

P.S. what is this dihydrogen oxide? A new sports drink?
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Hey There,

It won't really matter what company the bottle is made for, nike etc. it's really the manufacturer who makes them. I am the national sales manager for a company in Australia called Bottles of Australia, we do almost every bike shop and major sports company in oz so I feel like I'm qualified to speak on this. The 2 main things you need to look for are:
1: The plastic: bottles are made out of polyethelene, but the softer the plastic the better.
2: Lids: Wether its a clip on lid or screw on lid they should still be leak proof although I guess it's hard to test that in the store.

We don't really export to the US but a company called California sports I think make fairly good bottles, as do Zefal.

The lid you are talking about is called a sure shot lid, we use this same lid on some of our bottles and the point of it is that you dont have to have your mouth contact the bottle to get liquid out, you just squeeze the bottle. It was actually invented for hygeine purposes with team sports where players are sharing bottles but has worked really well for the cycling market. I hope I have been some help to you.
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Originally Posted by uplateinoh
P.S. what is this dihydrogen oxide? A new sports drink?
Only a Linux user would obfuscate water.

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Hey There,

It won't really matter what company the bottle is made for, nike etc. it's really the manufacturer who makes them. I am the national sales manager for a company in Australia called Bottles of Australia, we do almost every bike shop and major sports company in oz so I feel like I'm qualified to speak on this. The 2 main things you need to look for are:
1: The plastic: bottles are made out of polyethelene, but the softer the plastic the better.
2: Lids: Wether its a clip on lid or screw on lid they should still be leak proof although I guess it's hard to test that in the store.

We don't really export to the US but a company called California sports I think make fairly good bottles, as do Zefal.

The lid you are talking about is called a sure shot lid, we use this same lid on some of our bottles and the point of it is that you dont have to have your mouth contact the bottle to get liquid out, you just squeeze the bottle. It was actually invented for hygeine purposes with team sports where players are sharing bottles but has worked really well for the cycling market. I hope I have been some help to you.

Thanks Canberradude, that was exactly the kind of information I was looking for!
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I actually like the harder plastic bottles. Am I a weirdo?
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Originally Posted by linux_author
- for $1 more than the Nike bottle you can get an insulated Polar bottle in same size... (i freeze two of 'em half full, fill with dihydrogen oxide before leaving the house, and still have a cold drink several hours later, even in 95F temps)
This is my experience as well. The Polar is well worth the money.
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Originally Posted by gapowermike
This is my experience as well. The Polar is well worth the money.
But, freeze it on its side so you'll be able to squeeze it. Long straight cube better than a cylindrical ice cube that is the same diameter of the bottle. I had to wait until the 2nd hour of a ride to be able to squeeze enough water out to do any good.
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Originally Posted by uplateinoh
I was in a sporting goods store and saw some really nice Nike sport water bottles. Due to the tapered shape, it didn't look like a standard water bottle cage would hold them very well. Is anyone using this bottle on a bike? They had a really cool automatic spout that opened when you squeeze... are there any other water bottles out there with this kind of spout?

I'm just not happy with the standard bottles I've tried... maybe I'm not spending enough but the spouts are hard to open (and close) when on the move and also the stupid things always seem to leak. Anyone have a bottle they are really happy with?
good bottle, try sports authority they have it. I used to have one when I played soccer now I have no clue where it is.
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One word: CamelBak

You dig it? I know you do...
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Nalgene bicycle bottles are the best. There is a cap protecting the spout in the bottle from dirt and once you open the cap, the spout slides up very easliy. No problem opening the bottle at all.

https://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/store...ategorycode=16

*Please note that these are made from LDPE #4, which is widely considered to be a safe plastic.
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Anybody else used an Artesian water bottle? These things were great. Feed tube to the bottom of the bottle, give it a squeeze, mouthful of water. No need to tilt head to drink...did a search for them yesterday, vanished from the face of the Earth it seems. Mine vanished on a hike..sigh. I'm thinking it should be easy enough to add a feed tube to regular water bottle. I'll see what I can find/adapt, and report back.
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i use the nike bottle and love it. it fits decent in my generic bottle cage.
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I have two polars but its kind of hard to squeeze sometiimes. I end up taking the cap off...And then I get cramps lol

The polar does keep water cold for a very long time!! I dont freeze the bottle either
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Hmm, I'm looking for capacity. What's the largest bottle anyone's ever found? 24oz? 30oz?
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I wouldn't say you are a weirdo for liking harder bottles DXchulo but you generally find they arent as good quality. Basically the lower density the polyethelene (LDPE) the softer the bottle will be and the easier to squeeze your fluid out.
When I said before about California Sports, I think it's actually California Springs but most manufacturers will put there company on the bottom of the bottle out of the way. For instance if you live in australia and walk in to a sports store like rebel or a bike shop, you'll see Puma and Asics or your LBS bottles but if you look on the bottom, it has our BOA logo.
IMHO opinion, roadie's that use camelbacks look like mountain bikers confused as to which bike they should be riding.
You should also be careful with bottles that have feed tube cos if your sucking it and you hit a bump it can easily slam up in to your gums and the next thing you know there is blood everywhere!
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Originally Posted by Canberradude
IMHO opinion, roadie's that use camelbacks look like mountain bikers confused as to which bike they should be riding.
I dont get it. I didnt think there was a specific group that camelbaks were more appropriate on. I mean they're sold to the military... hikers use them... I dont see why roadies cant.

Look at their website, the first page (if you click on sports&recreation) shows a roadie they sponsor.

I realize you said it was your opinion, and Im not saying you opinion is wrong... Im just wondering why you came to that conclusion.

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The real question: What bottle will match my carbon frame and cages?
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Hey no exit,
The reason I say that, and obviously this is different in America is that in Australia it's pretty much a major no no. I have lived in Canberra and Sydney and it's very humid and hot in Sydnay but it's still frowned upon, especially in bunch rides.
Maybe raodies are more snobby in Australia?
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