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Ever have days where you have no lactic burn?

Old 08-31-05, 11:38 PM
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Ever have days where you have no lactic burn?

Today was one of those days - legs felt great!

My usual 40 mile route starts with a 13.5 mile ascent of about 3-4% and I usual ache for the 1st 5 miles, but today there was none of that and I rode very fast by my standards. Trying to figure out if it was attributed to:

a.) Waiting to ride 3 1/2 hours after I ate lunch today. I usual eat and ride almost right away (bad idea?).

b.) I missed the last two days of hard riding due to other obligations. Was it just fresh legs?

c. ) Last night's Chris Charmichael's unapproved training regimen of lots of beer, Chicken McNuggets, and playing Craps until 4:00 a.m. and getting 5 hours sleep?

d.) Somebody slipped EPO into my Goldschlager.
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Its a result of lots of riding, I dont feel any burn at all unless Ive been at LT or better for a really long time.Even out of the saddle climbing for 10 minutes doesnt do much to my legs, just increases my heartrate.By friday most weeks though if ive been busy at work I can start to feel it sometimes.What gets me is when I stop after being at LT for a long long time. Last hour attempt I did my legs felt like big cramped knots when I stopped, took a couple days for that to go away, and they were quite sore on monday at work, they didnt like the 30 miles I did that day.
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Originally Posted by pedex
Its a result of lots of riding, I dont feel any burn at all unless Ive been at LT or better for a really long time.Even out of the saddle climbing for 10 minutes doesnt do much to my legs, just increases my heartrate.By friday most weeks though if ive been busy at work I can start to feel it sometimes.What gets me is when I stop after being at LT for a long long time. Last hour attempt I did my legs felt like big cramped knots when I stopped, took a couple days for that to go away, and they were quite sore on monday at work, they didnt like the 30 miles I did that day.
Cool. I'm making some good progress I suppose. When I started climbing that long ascent as a beginner in May, I averaged 11-12 mph and I was dying. Today I did it in 14.5 mph and it wasn't even pushing. Hope to keep getting faster as I keep losing the little spare around my waist!
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BTW, why does the body produce lactic acid anyway???
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Originally Posted by Ben Cousins
Have you ever met Chris Boardman?
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This post is going nowhere so I'd like to know what it was like climbing Alp d'Huez? Got any pics?

And if you can do 10 minutes out of the saddle climbing than you're a mutant. Where's the "I call BS" emoticon?
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Originally Posted by gapowermike
This post is going nowhere so I'd like to know what it was like climbing Alp d'Huez? Got any pics?

And if you can do 10 minutes out of the saddle climbing than you're a mutant. Where's the "I call BS" emoticon?

Better watch some more races, some of these guys go alot longer than that.In my line of work its part of the deal, I spend about 80% of my time accelerating and then slowing back down, most of it out of the saddle, fixed gear riding as a package monkey does that to you.Hell, Armstrong right before he was diagnosed with cancer did an entire ride out of the saddle cause he couldnt sit down.In the alleycat races I do, its one of the quickest ways to find out who's got the strength and power and who doesnt, those that cant do it get destroyed in short order.
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Ben, what gearing were you using for the Alp d'Huez and these rides?
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The only rides I get no lactic acid burn is if I was riding <= 15MPH on flat terrain... Most of my rides have a bunch of short bumps which you accelrate over and invariably trying to keep the speed constant, I sprint/mash up...

Nice pics Ben...The Col de la Bonnette looks steep...
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Originally Posted by crosscut
Ben, what gearing were you using for the Alp d'Huez and these rides?

Looks like in thet alpe pics like small ring big cog, cool pics.
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Hey Ben. What does this gesture mean?


How tall are you and how much do you weigh? You are obviously a strong rider yet are not heavily muscled in the legs.

Those pros must be juicing!
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Originally Posted by Sincitycycler
c. ) Last night's Chris Charmichael's unapproved training regimen of lots of beer, Chicken McNuggets, and playing Craps until 4:00 a.m. and getting 5 hours sleep?

d.) Somebody slipped EPO into my Goldschlager.

I don't know, but I'm coming to Vegas and partying with YOU!

(actually, I'd guess (b), fresh legs)


(and yeah, I'd actually consider living there. Been there enough to know more than the Strip)
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yah sticks lol
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Jeez man. i'm kind jealous. What do you eat?

I'm 6'2" and one time I got down to 175 15 years ago and everybody thought I had AIDS.


Originally Posted by Ben Cousins
I means 'I've been at 95% HR for 50 minutes and it hurts!'




I'm 6' and 147lbs (or I was that week) i.e. very skinny. Climbing strength actually has nothing to do with being heavily muscled. It's power to weight ratio remember, not raw power output like sprinting or 'rolling'. Take a look at Rasmussen, Virenque and Coppi, for examples of a climber’s physique.
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Originally Posted by Ben Cousins

Awesome!
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Ben, thanks for the photos. Looks like an awesome trip. I want to go to Europe for an extended vacation (>1month) and would be interested in a tour like the one that you did. Any tips? Specifically tour groups, where to stay, what NOT to eat....you know the things that will make the trip smoother.
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