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making my steel bike light

Old 09-01-05, 07:35 AM
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making my steel bike light

About a year ago I purchased a 2004 Specialized Allez comp steel. Full ultegra with a bunch of Specialized house brand parts. My intention was to get into the sport (I mainly ride mountain and tri) and get a new bike down the road after I realized what I like. After a year and about 3500 miles I found that I loved the bike – just not the weight. Here is what I did so far –
Seat – Flite Ti
Headset – King
Bar – Easton EC 90 carbon
Fork – Easton EC90 SLX
Wheels – Custom build – King hubs, DT Revolution spokes, alloy nipples, and Mavic open pro rims (stickers off) – just finished last night – very light.
The components are Ultegra 9, which I’ll probably keep except for the crank and cassette. Any advice on what to do next?
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Old 09-01-05, 07:41 AM
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Get rid of any extra bacon you are dragging around or start with a 2 pound frame next time.
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How much does the bike weigh right now?
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Replace alloy crank arms with carbon replace bottle cages with something lighter or remove one and use larger capacity bottle or loose both and go with a small camalback. You could go with carbone rims as well. Fewer spokes on your rims.
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You can probably knock some weight off with an Al seatpost. If that is the stock one, go for something like a CF or a quality Al.

BTW, it looks like your saddle is tilted withe the nose pointed down too far. That tends to make for sore and tired shoulders, arms, and wrists.

Nice looking bike!
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Originally Posted by Wurm
How much does the bike weigh right now?
With cages and pedals a shade over 18# - the wheels took off over a pound. The bike was @ 20.5 when I started.
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Originally Posted by StanSeven
BTW, it looks like your saddle is tilted withe the nose pointed down too far. That tends to make for sore and tired shoulders, arms, and wrists.
I ride about 8 to 10k miles a year - I love my seat angle - if you think that is tilted, you should see my tri bike, where I put the majoity of my miles on this year.
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Why does it need to be lighter than 18lbs? You're already at the point of very diminishing returns. If you really want to do something more a new 2 piece crankset with exo bb. (either carbon, FSA K Force Mega EXo, or shimano D/A or Ultegra) This will not only save you a little weight, but it also will stiffen the bb.
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18 pounds is very light in my book. But I think my 20 pd. steel bike is light. If you want to shave off a significant amount of weight, you'll probably have to move up to a carbon/ti frame.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Why does it need to be lighter than 18lbs? You're already at the point of very diminishing returns. If you really want to do something more a new 2 piece crankset with exo bb. (either carbon, FSA K Force Mega EXo, or shimano D/A or Ultegra) This will not only save you a little weight, but it also will stiffen the bb.
I don't need it to be lighter - I just like nice bikes and the "bling" factor. My goal when starting this project was to make a light, reliable bike with a good ride. Plus if there is one aspect of cycling I'm good at, it's hill climbing - so loseing the ouces is nice. Cranks and cassette are next, and probably last.
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Added a 11-23 DA cassette today - just under 18 - thats good for now
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Dude I wish i could post a pic of my LeMond. It was all 853 steel (53cm top tube) and it weighed 15.4lbs with pedals. I have posted pics of it before with a parts list. So it's on here somewhere. But just FYI I had the same SLX fork, King Ti headset, White Ind. Ti B.B., Storck Pro Power Arms Cranks, Ti Speedplays, Zero Grav brakes, Nokon cables, Cinelli ram bars,king ti cages, Alien post, slr saddle, open pro rims, hugi hubs, Marwi Ti spokes and ti bolts throughout. It was light enough. I replaced that frame with a new Pinarello which was a lighter frame, but heavier fork, and I had to use a heavier B.B. so the weight only came down just a bit.

You could get yours to the mid 16s if you are willing to spend the $$$$
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Originally Posted by sscyco
With cages and pedals a shade over 18# - the wheels took off over a pound. The bike was @ 20.5 when I started.
18 lb. is not too shabby at all. As others said, it depends on how much $$ the bling is worth to you.

I'm working on getting my 56cm. steel rig down to 19 lbs. (including pedals, 2 cages, and computer) without spending my right arm, using any parts that are "stupid light", or buying another wheelset. Today it lost .23 lb. with a new saddle, so it's now at 19.50.
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i dont like being mean but, I sense 58VW? (sorry man, I had to do it)
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The difference of 18lbs vs 16 lbs wont help in your hill climbing. I dont think the difference of 20 lbs vs 16 lbs would be even noticable. What helps in hill climbing is technique and strength not a 2 pound lighter bike. But if this is just for the sake of having a lighter bike... go with Ti. Better than CF... more durable, lighter, stronger and definitely more reliable.
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i dont like being mean but, I sense 58VW? (sorry man, I had to do it)
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well My58Vw has a history of upgrading and u[grading a lower end frame and making it lighter and lighter by putting more expensive componets. But I'm not the one to make fun of him though, I think thats a bunch of BS making fun of him. But I hope you get it now.
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Originally Posted by hi565
well My58Vw has a history of upgrading and u[grading a lower end frame and making it lighter and lighter by putting more expensive componets. But I'm not the one to make fun of him though, I think thats a bunch of BS making fun of him. But I hope you get it now.
Gotcha. I'm feeling kinda dumb today anyway. Must have been the lack of oxygen from the 44 mile ride. LOL! Too many climbs! *PANT* *PUFF* *SNORT*
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*spit* *snot rocket* etc...
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