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Cannondale six-13 v's Colnago C-50

Old 09-04-05, 04:08 AM
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Cannondale six-13 v's Colnago C-50

My son is interested in a Cannondale six 13 2006, or a Colnago C50 he races Tri's and especially loves the bike riding. He is currently on a Merckx race which he has outgrown, any advice would be appreciated (especially a review of the six-13)

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Old 09-04-05, 06:11 AM
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I don't know, but I'm nominating you for father of the year honors either way...if you adopted me, could I have the Merckx?
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Cannondale is like a Corvette C5R - fast, affordable & fun.
Colnago is like a Ferrari - fast, NOT affordable & fun.

Both are great bikes for racing. Your son would be happy with either one; my suggestion is letting your wallet decide.

Good Luck!
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Old 09-04-05, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by tlupfer
I don't know, but I'm nominating you for father of the year honors either way...if you adopted me, could I have the Merckx?
Consider yourself part of the family, you can use the Merckx any morning you like.
do you live close to Perth, Australia???

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What Peter said. Actually, either one would be a shame to mess up in a racing crash.
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don't get the Six13... it is stupid really - composite tubing with alum lugs and tubes... created for marketing and not for any real benefit.

You're better off with a CAAD7 or CAAD8 than a frame that actually creaks and flexes at the joints by under high load. A LOT of Six13 buyers have reported this.
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Old 09-04-05, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ShinyBaldy
don't get the Six13... it is stupid really - composite tubing with alum lugs and tubes... created for marketing and not for any real benefit.

You're better off with a CAAD7 or CAAD8 than a frame that actually creaks and flexes at the joints by under high load. A LOT of Six13 buyers have reported this.
I own TWO six/13's...the original and the new frame.

The original I have owned for a little less than a year. It has about eight thousand miles on it.

It does not make a sound. I came off an Optimo that I rode for a year that was a great frame. But it did make that tinging alumunim sound.

Sorry....

I love these statements of "fact"....I heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy who knows a guy who is friends with a guy who read it on the internet on a link from a guy who posts on a forum...

BTW...there are now two Six/13 frames, the team and the pro. Difference is that the pro only has the carbon in the downtube and is less expensive.

We had two new Six/13's in the clear coat. One, the Team is there, but the Pro lasted a half of a day on the floor.
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Old 09-04-05, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ShinyBaldy
don't get the Six13... it is stupid really - composite tubing with alum lugs and tubes... created for marketing and not for any real benefit.

You're better off with a CAAD7 or CAAD8 than a frame that actually creaks and flexes at the joints by under high load. A LOT of Six13 buyers have reported this.

Its possible that you got a bum frame. Stomp bike tour was yesterday and was 3 or 4 various 6/13s i asked abut them and all the riders loved them none mentioned any creaking and i did ask about that. I knew that the old trek road bike made with carbone tubes and alum lugs did creak. Eve if they do its nothing to worry about as the frame isnt goign to suddenly break. Im not sure how such bikes are put to gather i asume its a combo of ressed in and a glue of somesort. If you got a creaky one my bet is the glue doesnt cover enough area and causes just enoughh rubbing in the lugs to creak.
Im sure it takes a few years off the life of the frame but hey if they are even close to the quality of old 80s cannondales thats probably a few years off of 30+.

Id say if you got a creay one give cannondale a yell and let them know. Remember these bikes have a life time warranty on the fram afer all.
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go to www.roadbikereview.com/ for reviews.
i see many of both framsets. one guy left his colnago for the six-13. colnago feel mushy AFTER having been on Al or Ti. But i wouldn't kick either one out of the my stable.
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+1 vote for father of the year

i was just thinking, if he's outgrowing bikes rapidly, it would almost be a good idea to check out used bikes, at least until his height has leveled off somehwhat...just to keep the costs down.
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Originally Posted by goldfish
+1 vote for father of the year

i was just thinking, if he's outgrowing bikes rapidly, it would almost be a good idea to check out used bikes, at least until his height has leveled off somehwhat...just to keep the costs down.
I don't think he's concerned about costs at all, since it hasn't even been mentioned in the thread up to this point.
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Old 09-05-05, 12:04 PM
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I wouldn't buy either. They are both phenomenal road racing frames. If your son is really into Tri, buy him a top-end Tri bike.
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Originally Posted by btmail
My son is interested in a Cannondale six 13 2006, or a Colnago C50 he races Tri's and especially loves the bike riding. He is currently on a Merckx race which he has outgrown, any advice would be appreciated (especially a review of the six-13)

BrianT

I am your long lost son, dont you remember? dad?


How old is he? Unless the kid is putting in 600 miles a week I wouldnt reccomend going with something that expensive. I mean we are talking 5000$(+/-) bikes here. If he is still growing I wouldnt look at spending a ton of money on the bike, unless hes almost done growing. Also if you really wanted to buy me, um i mean him that bike get the frame a little bigger so he can grow into it. But In my view I would go with the C'dale, becasue well they are so damn good looking!
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Originally Posted by MacMan
I wouldn't buy either. They are both phenomenal road racing frames. If your son is really into Tri, buy him a top-end Tri bike.
Ditto! If he's doing Tris get him a TT bike. The right tool for the right job.
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Originally Posted by azwhelan
Ditto! If he's doing Tris get him a TT bike. The right tool for the right job.
A cervelo soloist! Thats the bike you should be gettting the kid! Its a very nice road bike, but its very aero at the same time so he can go from aero bike to road bike.


or if you are a really nice dad get him the soloist carbon.
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I second the soloist thing. If Tris are the only thing he does, dont even stop there and get a P3Carbon. I mean if youre talking C50 you could outfit the entire P3Carbon with Campy and Zipps for less than the C50 HM framset. I dont race tri, but I LUST after the P3 Carbon so BAD...

and while I may not be your son, I WAS raised catholic, and for a P3Carbon, I'd let you put on the priests collar...
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another vote for the P3C...
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Thank you all, I guess it's obvious he's spoilt rotten - but when it comes to bikes I just can't help myself. My Dad raced bikes 70 years ago in Ireland, I raced bikes from 15-25yo, and now my sons race. He's pretty good too, He dosn't smoke or do drugs, trains 10 sessions a week and last year got straight A's at school. I see the crap his school mates are up to - and I think it's money well spent keeping him on the bike. To top it off you meet nice people on bikes at bike races and at Tri's.

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ps, his absolute first choice was the Cervello soloist carbon but they won't get to Australia until Christmas and even then only very few and I don't think we would get one.
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I own a Team Replica Six13 and absolutely love it. The frame has never creaked. I've never heard of complaints about other owners Six13s creaking either.

The Six13 handles wonderfully, has extremely aggresive geometry, and has minimal road road buzz (for a cannondale). The thing climbs like a goat. Overall, I've found it to be one of the best bikes I've ever ridden.

Cannondale has a frame trade in program that might be nice if the lad is still growing. Basically you get a discount on a new frame when you trade the old one in.
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Originally Posted by btmail
Thank you all, I guess it's obvious he's spoilt rotten - but when it comes to bikes I just can't help myself. My Dad raced bikes 70 years ago in Ireland, I raced bikes from 15-25yo, and now my sons race. He's pretty good too, He dosn't smoke or do drugs, trains 10 sessions a week and last year got straight A's at school. I see the crap his school mates are up to - and I think it's money well spent keeping him on the bike. To top it off you meet nice people on bikes at bike races and at Tri's.

BrianT

ps, his absolute first choice was the Cervello soloist carbon but they won't get to Australia until Christmas and even then only very few and I don't think we would get one.
email cervelo, see what they can do. If you make a request to hold one its yours.
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