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Old 09-12-05, 09:39 PM   #1
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Peugeot on Craigslist, worth it? Identify it?

Still looking for my first new (used) road cycle, my best bet is craigslist. How does this one fare? What exactly is it, anyway, and is it a rip?

http://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/bik/96792524.html

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If I am identifying it correctly, I have that exact same frame. I believe the brown sticker on the seat tube says "Carbolite 103". It's a decent enough bike, but the most desireable ones are the UO-10 models with Reynolds 853, IIRC. FWIW, I think it's overpriced considering the age and the components. You can do better.
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I've yet to find a truly good deal on Craigslist. Portland, Seattle and LA included. Believe me, I love scouring the classifieds.

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I've yet to find a truly good deal on Craigslist. Portland, Seattle and LA included. Believe me, I love scouring the classifieds.

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Me too, and I have a theory. Since it's free, there's no motivation to deal. You simply troll for a buyer to buy at your price. OTOH, if it cost you $$ each time to post the ad, such as on eBay, you'd be forced to be more competitive in your listing. The tons of repeat postings on CL validates this.
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Blah, I guess your logic about craigslist is correct. I just wish there were some way for me to pick up a cheap road bike to ride on for a while. How much do you guys think this Peugeot is worth anyway? Or better yet, is there a better way to get a good deal?

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Craigslist can yield some good deals but they get snapped up VERY quickly. Do you know what size you are looking for and the price range?

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I've yet to find a truly good deal on Craigslist. Portland, Seattle and LA included. Believe me, I love scouring the classifieds.

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I've bought plenty and seen plenty of good deals on the Denver/boulder,and don't consider myself a sucker.Plenty of dilusional sellers tho.

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If I am identifying it correctly, I have that exact same frame. I believe the brown sticker on the seat tube says "Carbolite 103". It's a decent enough bike, but the most desireable ones are the UO-10 models with Reynolds 853, IIRC. FWIW, I think it's overpriced considering the age and the components. You can do better.
Trust me, they never made a uo-10 with 853...lol....
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I've seen lots worse for more money,and you have to consider the market. If it's clean,rideable as is, it's worth trying to chezil him dow a few more bucks.Forks not original might mean it was wrecked and there could be damage to other tubes, like buckling of the downtube at the headtube junction.
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I'm just trying to get a cheap (100 is the absolute max, willing to go a bit higher if it's really a great deal, but ideally something around $60). I'm about 5'9". Just want something that will ride a bit faster and easier up hills than my current ride.

Thanks for all the help so far!

Oh, is Panasonic a good company for road bikes? I found another craigslisting for an $80 one.
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Trust me, they never made a uo-10 with 853...lol....
Gee, thanks for clearing that up...what I meant was 531 and it was a PX-10. I did say IIRC...
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Oh, ok, called him up, he says its a Panasonic Villager and that his price on it of $80 is firm. How is this bicycle?
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Oh, ok, called him up, he says its a Panasonic Villager and that his price on it of $80 is firm. How is this bicycle?
Panasonic was a good quality maker in the 80's had made bikes for many other big name brands (Schwinn included I'm fairly certain). Every maker made good, mid, and low range bikes. I can't say where the Villager falls in the line up, but the folks in the Classic and Vintage forum may be able to help. And of course never under estimate the power of Google. For $80 frim, if it's a mid-range bike that doesn't need much in the way of clean up (ie - everything works, paint is in good (great) shape and may only need cables and/or rubber) I'd say you will probably get far more than $80 worth out of the bike. It's not a fantastic deal, but there are people who want more for less.
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I know you're trying to save money, but if I were you, I'd save up for a Windsor Bristol (pictured below) from www.bikesdirect.com. My friend bought one and I test rode it. It was actually very nice and much better than I thought it would be. The fork is carbon, the frame is solid and has an attractive pearl paint finish. The Sora drivetrain is much better than I thought it would be. Overall, I think it is a much better purchase for a first bike than going with something used where parts availability may be questionable. Everything on this bike is modern and performs much better than most older bikes. The good bikes that are older (like the Peugeot PX-10) will probably cost about the same or more anyhow.

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Oh, is Panasonic a good company for road bikes? I found another craigslisting for an $80 one.
Panasonic made everything from very top end to below bottom of the barrel.
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Panasonic made everything from very top end to below bottom of the barrel.
Do you suppose their top-of-the-line model was named the Villager?
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I did say IIRC...
Gee sorry, seem to have misplaced my gibberish translation handbook.
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IIRC=If I Recall Correctly

...which I didn't.
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Do you suppose their top-of-the-line model was named the Villager?
Team = top, villager = about bottom of the barrel comfort bike type. Sorry
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Blah. So, a comfort type road bike styled not worth $80 junk ?
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I used scour craigslist for used bikes. A month and nothing found.

Then I saved up to invest in a Felt F90 for $550. Aluminum w/ carbon fork, rides like the wind.

I suggest save for a good entry level bike and save the trouble of repairing and age problems. Look at the Felt or the Windsor stated above.
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