jtree

hello,

it seems obvious to me that as the temperatures drop, one of the main contributors to feeling cold is the cool wind cutting through the fabric. what use is a long sleeve jersey without wind protection? in my ideal world, every long sleeve jersey would have wind protection on the front half(arms and chest) with normal wicking material on the back half(back of arms and the back) to allow venting of water vaper and sweat. yet, it appears that most cycling clothing is not designed that way. why aren't there light and medium weight jerseys designed like that? in addition, the prominent color should not be black. as the days get shorter and riding at dusk becomes more likely, visibility is very important, so there should be lot's of reflective striping and bright colors on fall/winter jerseys. i think pearl izumi got the concept right with their vector jersey, but the front half is predominantly a low visibility black. the assos intermediate jersey appears to have some windblock on the chest but not the arms, and of course assos is exceedingly expensive.

it's hard for me to understand why no cycling apparel maker has a full line of windblock jerseys.

bbattle

How about Santini Tofua long sleeve jerseys? Or their long sleeve team jerseys?

GORE Bike Wear SOHO Thermal jerseys?

Cannondale's long sleeve Saeco Team Jersey?

Louis Garneau's winter jerseys and jackets?

/just ordered some Fall/Winter(in Alabama) clothes from Performance. Bright colors so I don't get shot during deer season. You didn't know deer could ride bikes on paved roads, did you? That's a widely known fact around here. :-)

johnny99

All the major Euro brands have at least one windstopper long sleeve jersey. One of my favorite jerseys is a short sleeve, uninsulated Castelli jersey with a windstopper front. Since the jersey is uninsulated, I can customize the warmth level with base layers and arm warmers.

Some people prefer using wind vests. That works fine, too, and you can always take off the vest if the afternoon is much warmer than the morning.

puddin' legs

They do and have for years...shop harder!

Shifty

Bellwether started making jackets,vests and tights like this in the mid-1980's. I still have the tights, and wear them on cold days, they work well. They still make them, except for jerseys, you need to use a standard long sleeve jersey and a wind-stop jacket or vest.

Here's a link to the tights, I used mine all winter in Colorado, perfect in that climate (cold)

https://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...eid=&pagename=

filtersweep

Ever heard of a VEST? A lightweight wind blocking vest was the best investment I've ever made. It has a netted back to breathe... they fold up to fit in a back pocket... engineering marvels, they are.

Arms cold? Use arm warmers- under your LS jersey if you must- when it warms up, you can remove them and roll them up- stash them in a pocket.

Boudicca

I'll second the vest idea -- either a light weight one for medium cold, or a wind-block fleece for colder than medium cold. Check out this one from REI. https://www.rei.com/online/store/Prod...vcat=REI_HP_LD

ivan_yulaev

How about a (regular) long sleeve shirt?

When it's cold, you don't have to worry about sweating as much. Usually, I am cold for the first 10-15 minutes. Then, I take it off, and am fime.

jtree

i tried on the pearl izumi vector jersey. someone messed up big time. the back of the jersey is made out of stretchy material so when you reach for the bars the shoulders and upper back should stretch with you. however, a designer added some reflective piping on a seam that runs across the upper back. the piping doesn't stretch. so, when you reach for the bars, the jersey doesn't stretch, and you feel the piping digging into your back.

i still can't find anything online that fits the bill. i also tried on an assos airblock 851 jacket, and it's designed the way i want, but it's pretty heavyweight and it's pricey.

>>GORE Bike Wear SOHO Thermal jerseys?

nice fit, but it only has a small square on the back that is spandex, the rest is windblock, so not much venting.

>>Cannondale's long sleeve Saeco Team Jersey?

i tried on some Cannondale jersey. it was exactly what i'm looking for: lightweight, windblock on the front half, and spandex on the back half. however, it fit loosely and the cuffs weren't snug. it looks like it was designed for mountain biking.

puddin' legs

"i still can't find anything online that fits the bill. i also tried on an assos airblock 851 jacket, and it's designed the way i want, but it's pretty heavyweight and it's pricey."

Try this: one very light insulating layer (castelli mesh undershirt or similar), one jersey, or even two, and a light wind vest, and arm or leg warmers....cycling tights with knee warmers.

Colder? Insulated heavier long tights (you can even wear them over your regular tights if you want), a light weight synthetic turtle neck zip T, a jersy or a long sleeved winter jersey, a windblock vest, a neck gaitor, and a hat.

If you're new to all this, it's going to take a little trial and error to figure out what works for you, but the product is out there. Talk to local cyclists who ride regularly in cold weather and folks at your LBS as well, but give the industry some credit. There are a lot of different products and options out there.

johnny99

Instead of a windblock jersey, which is often expensive and hard to fit properly, another option is to use a windblock base layer. Castelli, Biemme, Craft, Gore, and others make them. These fit skin tight so you can wear any jersey over them. The windblock front is breathable so you don't get clammy. Unlike a jacket, these don't flap around in the wind, causing discomfort and ruining your aerodynamics. They add a lot of warmth with minimal weight and bulk. They do not overhead unless the day gets really warm. They are not as warm as a full jacket, of course, and are also not water resistant.

Surferbruce

breathability and versatility means layers. it's impossible to have one piece of clothing do everything.
i sometimes do a base layer (or two), jersey, arm warmers, windvest,, legwarmers, full finger gloves, etc. you get the idea. often i peel most the of the layers while climbing then pile them back on for descents.
you can always do what the pros still do and reach to the support car for some newspaper or butcher paper to stuff in your jersey.