cyclebutt

I don't know about you but lately I've been dreaming of a bicycle utopia. I mean if I won the lotto I'd buy some land some where with a temperate climate and build a 100 mile loop path that includes flats, rolling hills, some massive climbs and awesome descents. Doing away with all the iceholes in their dump trucks, semi's, pick ups, toyota camry wheelchairs(old folks) and whatever else pisses you off!! wouldn't that be great? Oh I forgot to mention water coolers and dancing girls (or guy's whatever floats your boat) at every 25 miles. what else would you like to see. sorry if this is lame but i'm getting so tired of the bullshot I encounter on my rides.

Blackberry

Don't forget pie at the rest stops.

CPcyclist

Those be twisty descent at 40+ in the turn?

I like pie.....ummmm cherry pie.......

fogrider

sounds like you need to move to a better riding environment. I may have fog, but the riding is good here.

twahl

Utopia never works. We need the bad to remind us just how good the good is. Keeping that in mind, all I want is temperatures no higher than 85 and no lower than 45. The rest I can deal with.

Jakey

Tuscany.

cyclebutt

fogrider, have been to SF many times in the past. Rented a road bike(low end giant but still pretty good for 20$) @ pacific cycles. Road down market to and over golden gate bridge into sausalito. what a beautiful ride. Guy I was with couldn't do the ride back up the hill so we took the ferry back, I was game for it but he hadn't been riding for a few years. Utopia.....close but not quite.

AlanS

No potholes. In fact, no bumps whatsoever -- roads as smooth as glass. Not just dancing girls -- I want topless dancing girls who admire me even though I have no athletic ability.

TheKillerPenguin

Silky smooth roads, tons of different ridiciulous climbs, miles of flats, throw in some rollers, make a lot of the roads twisty but don't get rid of the straights all together. 60-80* all year round, nice and windy (but not all the time ), rain that doesn't last all day and doesn't happen on consecutive days.

Edit: i'm thinking lots of green. Lush country. waterfalls. The water would be clean and drinkable, and fruit/berries would be plentiful. Also, there would be lots of bikers from all walks of life. And they'd all be friendly. I gotsta have my group rides.

Finally, tons of mountain bike trails too. Singletrack and fire roads

DXchulo

I want lots of mountains, a few lakes, a beach, a waterfall, and a ton of turns in the road.

90+ degrees every day, but there has to be ice cream. Tons of ice cream.

I also want a bunch of figs, date trees, apple trees, peach trees, pear trees, orange trees, grapevines, raspberry bushes, etc.

I think it'd be cool to just ride around living like a scavenger. Well....a scavenger with ice cream.

glassman

I have thought the same thing, especially when I buy my powerball tickets.

krazyderek

anywhere with no cars and a descent strip of road.

fogrider

we start our rides at the bridge...getting into sausalito is just the warm up! get into mill valley and ride up mt. tam and down into stinson beach. hang out at beckers and ride back on the coast. that's a ride!

puddin' legs

Ishikawa and western Toyama pref. Japan...about as good as it gets. Except for rainy season and ghastly hot summers....ok, there's snow in the winter, but if you stay near sea level you'll usually be fine. I've also ridden my bike to the ski area and spent a great day on the hill. Another friend went surfing that day. Not bad options either...a velodrome, miles and miles of handsomely paved 1, 1 1/2 lane paved roads all over. Very little traffic once you're out of town and stay off primary roads. sigh... and the cyclists often come from different walks of life and are usually very friendly. Oh, and insurance and civil codes that heavily penalize drivers that hit cyclists.

cjbruin

Bicycle Utopia? That's simple. I would ride my bike to Elle Macpherson's house, knock on the door, and she would say, "You're finally here. Come in, I'm yours."

That would be my last ride...on a bicycle

jblod14148

Tim travis' life seems close. (www.downtheroad.org) No J-O-B, indefinite touring, and a woman who'll agree to go with him. I may sign myself up for that lifestyle. Now, how to raise a bunch of loot and find a woman who is not interested in babies and mortgages....

baj32161

I actually think I am going to be moving to my bicycle Utopia when I move up to Canada to be with my girlfriend. She lives in Burlington, Ontario and the riding there is simply fantastic (see my Canada thread). The Waterfront Trail to Niagara-On-The-Lake is particularly wonderful. So they have winter. I live in New Jersey and we have winter too....just nothing very good to go along with it. Actually the roads around here aren't too bad once you leave the city (Trenton area), but the traffic is abysmal.

gmason

That's my area you are talking about!

The water coolers are actually fountains - virtually every little town and village has one.

duckliondog

Take the cars off of all the roads (especially the ones in the mountains) near Los Angeles. Move Tioga pass a few hundred miles south so it won't snow. Then, make all the mountain biking trails around herejust like those in Oregon. Leave my neighborhood's craggy, 33% grade hills intact to keep me from going soft. Combine it all with our abundant sunshine and I'm a happy guy.

sunninho

I'd want a clear, warm lagoon along the bike path so you could run in and swim a 1-mile course out and back. You then climb out and run a cross-country course on a plush track with coconut stands lined along the 6 mile foot path. At the end of the run, you hop on a mountain bike and ride up a trail to a hilly terrace with a cabana and a swimming pool. Cool down in the pool, and then get on a road bike to fly down the other side of the hill for a 50 mile road course with 90 degree banked turns to add some variety.

Prince9931

Simply put ....but awesome

kuan

All roads go downhill.

You could drink all the beer you want and still be buff.

Every cool item of clothing in the store will fit perfect.

You could wear sunglasses at night.

No helmet hair.

lilHinault

Twahl, butt, just move to Palo Alto. SF the city is it's own thing, Palo Alto is a good centeral location and meets the temp requirements. Buying a house is a million bucks of course, but renting is dirt-cheap or at least feels like it for what a great area you get to live in. (this offer does not apply to east palo alto!) You can get by bike-only here, and I honestly think it's one of the great places to be a bike rider in the US.

TexasGuy

Utopia is many things to me.
I would like longer and better climbs that wind and disappear through large Texas hill-tops (you would ahve to kind of live here to understand).
Sometimes Utopia is chasing Traffic to the next stop light or 4-way stop along interstate high-way access roads. Sometimes its tackling that road that is so bumpy that it jars every bone in your body. Should definitely include nice winding curves however.

nova

Theres a old driving range for golf here thats out of buiss and for sale. Not sure how many acres but its a pretty huge chunk of property. Id love to turn that in to a bikeshop/riding corse. It would be easy to create some huge hills on the property by diging a huge pond in the middle and piling and packing the dirt in to hills. I bet some one could easly make a 10 mile loop on the property with some very nice and fun switch backs on the road corse. Nothing funner than taking a switch back at speed. Have one direction with huge steep hills for climbing and the other with nice gradual climbing grades and giant down hills. Build a mtb corse following the same corse but unpaved with some intresting hazards. What serious mtb rider wants a perfectly clean corse after all.

Best part is when a customer wants to take a test ride on one of your bikes you point them to the very nice road or mtb corse outside the shop and the bike never needs to leave your property. And you could make money of the corse by renting it out for road raceing and training for road races. Best part about the location is its on a very bike friendly road.