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What part of the bike will benefit the most from technological changes?

Old 11-06-05, 08:22 PM
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What part of the bike will benefit the most from technological changes?

What do you guys see as being fundamentally different about road bikes in 10 years?
I would imagine lighter wheels will become more common, and much cheaper. It seems as though at some point we will hit the maximum # of useful gears, and I would imagine some here would argue we are long past that point. More frame materials to bicker about? SRAMs groupo taking off?
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We will see the rise of mind controlled, electronic, 11 speed shifting and the ultimate weight reduction - SPD shes with a braking compound in the toe to use against your wheels in order to do away with those unsightly "brake calipers."

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Hmm id like to see some one come up with a good airless tire design. Something that gives a ride feel just like air based tires. New rubber compounds that have both good grip and last a very long time. Stronger frame design useing current materials. Ive got a idea for a frame build that id love to try. As some know carbon frames are laid up over styrofoam. Its left in place to add strenght tot he frame. But what if you used a much lighter material than that. Something like say aero gel? Aero gel is 98% air and 2% silica.
Its britle very britle. As a structural material its worthless. But what if you laid carbon fiber over it, useing it as the core you laid the fiber over?

I think as per gearing one of 2 things will happen we will have the same number of gears as now. Or we will move to some useable shaft drive and have no gears persay. Variable transmision similar to a craftman lawn tractor. aka varidrive. Wed no longer have the current limit on how large a ratio we can have in gears.
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Originally Posted by el twe
We will see the rise of mind controlled, electronic, 11 speed shifting and the ultimate weight reduction - SPD shes with a braking compound in the toe to use against your wheels in order to do away with those unsightly "brake calipers."


Thank you for an otherwise utterly useless post.

One thing I neglected to mention was I would think we will start seeing more studies (scientific and otherwise) on saddle issues, and new designs coming out of that work.
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UCI approval for the use of 'funny bikes', fairings, etc in time trials, hour record efforts.


Then we'll all use them and gain 2mph
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Originally Posted by tekhna
What do you guys see as being fundamentally different about road bikes in 10 years?
Also,

1)Tires that never flat

2)Automatic, Semi-Automatic transmissions that shift faultlessly and automatically based on preset cadence

3)Magnetic suspensions, no need for spokes
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Originally Posted by rufvelo
Also,

1)Tires that never flat

2)Automatic, Semi-Automatic transmissions that shift faultlessly and automatically based on preset cadence

3)Magnetic suspensions, no need for spokes
Lol at the magnetic one. Could always do lke they did on some motor cycles and go with spokeless hubless rims driven by pinch rollers. At the moment it would be crazy heavy. I like the idea of a cadence based auto shifting bike. Set it for your confort level of say 90 to 110 and it shifts up or down to keep you in that range.

There are already airless systems but the ride comfort isnt there. Ive ridden one system that was fairly decent but heavy. Use a airated foam core with a hard foam center. What suprises me is that track bikes dont use airless systems. I mean do you realy need tires that absorb bumps when your riding on a ultra smooth surface? I was watching one track race and the guy flated in a bad way. Full on blow out. You could see a white puff of smoke from the powder. And you seen him go down hard and slide a long long way.

Heres a question what ever happened to the bikes where all the cables were run through the frames. I seen a few years ago but they never seemed to catch on.
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I just say better shifting would be the dominate change. More speeds probably.

But i dnot know, how many changes were made 10 years ago compared to bikes today??
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I think a bike with a built in power meter and/or cycle comp would be cool.
Additionally, it'd be nice if we see some light weight, road specific disc brakes.
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Originally Posted by rufvelo
Also,

1)Tires that never flat

2)Automatic, Semi-Automatic transmissions that shift faultlessly and automatically based on preset cadence

3)Magnetic suspensions, no need for spokes
Excellent ideas. #3 is thinking outside of the box!
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Hopefully a Look Pedal which people can walk on, like regular SPDs.
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I think you'll see a lot more fenders.
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Originally Posted by lws
I think you'll see a lot more fenders.
Yeah, we all need more Fenders. Strats, Tele's, Jazz basses, maybe even a Jag-stang for those tender nirvana moments...
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Old 11-06-05, 09:40 PM
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An internal gear hub that is lightweight and bombproof. Also, somebody shoot the Shimano engineer that is busily working on 11 and 12 speed rear cassettes. 10 is ridiculous enough, but if we get any more gears, roadies are going to have to buy a new rear wheel after every ride.
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Originally Posted by Namenda
Yeah, we all need more Fenders. Strats, Tele's, Jazz basses, maybe even a Jag-stang for those tender nirvana moments...
haha nice

I also agree about road specific disc brakes
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10 years ago: 9-speed was just coming around, and hollowtech cranks (in the form of 1996 XTR) was on the verge. Biggest changes we've seen are
* more widespread CF with better construction, and the rise of cheap aluminum
* 10-speed drivetrains
* rise of light, lower-spoked designed-as-a-unit wheels
* threadless stems (which were around and already standard on top mountain bikes and common on road bikes, but have become standard on nearly all bikers now)

Of course, the problem with (social) science predicting the future is that you can't very well predict inventions that really change things, otherwise you'd have invented the thing already

Half of me wonders if the bike *market* will change up a fair bit, toward more functional riding machines. And if riders who get into cycling will no longer be oriented especially toward "serious" (read: racing technology and attitude) "competitive" riding and more toward riding for pleasure/health/surrounding beauty and enjoyment. Marketing will have a lot to do with the result on this one, and I doubt we'll see a shift back. But maybe. Gas prices will have something to say about this, too, on the practicality front.
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well i think designs are going to change with the widespread use of carbon fiber, such as mine, maybe not as practical as it is funky or cool, but i think the typical frames used today will be played out. As far as wheels i believe it will be frictionless using magnets similar in design to a maglev. not sure on drivetrain in th distant future though, but brrakes cant be incorparated into the magnetic wheel holding reducing the rubber bands ability to travel through the magnet support.

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Well, if the goal is comfortable speed, a lightweight, transparent aerodynamic wind shield would do wonders, and it doesn't require any new technology. Just an acceptance of a different idea about what a bicycle should look like. Of course, as long as racers don't use such a device (because rules prohibit it), don't count on it really catching on.
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Better drugs? More slueth w/r/t avoiding detection? Not that I'm rooting for those, but I'd put my money on those two being the source of most tech advances.

OK, w/r/t the bikes, I'd like to think, ironically, a general return to steel would be the high-tech innovation that's most likely.
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How 'bout full suspension road bikes with <1 inch of travel. I read somewhere that someone, I think Hincapie, was racing the Roubaix on a prototype. The suspension was where the seat stays meet the seat tube.

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I would imagine lightweight disc brakes as an option of the future.

Would allow for some sick-light rims...
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Originally Posted by Tequila Joe
How 'bout full suspension road bikes with <1 inch of travel. I read somewhere that someone, I think Hincapie, was racing the Roubaix on a prototype. The suspension was where the seat stays meet the seat tube.

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Originally Posted by .:Jimbo:.
well i think designs are going to change with the widespread use of carbon fiber, such as mine, maybe not as practical as it is funky or cool, but i think the typical frames used today will be played out. As far as wheels i believe it will be frictionless using magnets similar in design to a maglev. not sure on drivetrain in th distant future though, but brrakes cant be incorparated into the magnetic wheel holding reducing the rubber bands ability to travel through the magnet support.
Err, yes, I can imagine 150 lb liquid nitrogen tanks mounted on your handle bars to cool your superconducting magnetic hubs.

Okay, my prediction: If the cost of producing carbon fiber frames continues to drop, I think we'll see CF frames completely dominate the market -- from walmart bikes to the pro peloton.
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If the cost of producing carbon fiber frames continues to drop, I think we'll see CF frames completely dominate the market -- from walmart bikes to the pro peloton.
I wouldn't mind that. I waited until 1997 to buy my first CD player because I'm too cheap to pay an arm and a leg for technology that is only expensive because it's new. I think it's because I remember my parents paying WAAAY too much for an all-new "Solar-powered calculator" from Radio Shack, and now they only cost a couple bucks. If CF gets that cheap, I wonder if anyone will buy Al bikes?
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