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Co2 or Pump?

Old 11-18-05, 12:04 PM
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Co2 or Pump?

Which should someone that is going on long rides bring?
Co2 or bring a clip on the bike pump?
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Old 11-18-05, 12:07 PM
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I use a pump, since it never runs out of juice. You could also look into a combo unit that uses co2 but also has a backup pump.
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Old 11-18-05, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MiniLance
Which should someone that is going on long rides bring?
Co2 or bring a clip on the bike pump?
Thanks~

~Erik~
I do both for a couple reasons: a. The pump is back-up should I run out of CO2 cylinders. b. I can loan the pump to someone without running out of CO2 or having necessarily to wait for them to complete the repair. I can ride on if I choose knowing I still have CO2.
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I prefer CO2 because it fits nicely into my seat bag. Also, I rarely have flats. If you ride roads where you are exposed to a lot of junk that could cause flats, you may want to consider a pump.
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Old 11-18-05, 12:23 PM
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Love your name Erik. The K gives it character.

I use C02. It's compact enough to fit into my jersey pockets, and since I only flat once every thousand miles or so I don't wind up paying too much for refils. The downside is that you still have to pay for refills

If you think you're unlucky, get a pump. That's what I actually wanted, but I've found c02 to be fine. If only I didn't have to pay for refills.
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I use co2 on rides up to about 100 miles, if I'm in urban areas. On long rides and/or rural areas, I always bring a mini-pump.
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I carry two C02 cartridges, a tube and a patch kit on most solo rides if my wife is home or within cell phone reach. If she goes with me on my ride, I add another tube to that and take the pump as well. Long solo rides or when she isn't around, I'll also take the second tube and pump along. But I'm lucky to rarely have flats (about every 2000 miles or so) and have never had two flats on one ride. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
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Old 11-18-05, 01:31 PM
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Don't believe in waste...so a mini pump for me. Besides, I need to keep me (upper body) pumped up as much as the tires...
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Both in the same package http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4362

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Erik,

CO2
pros: fast, light, small (can carry in your shirt pocket/seat bag), nothing hanging on your frame or sticking out of your shirt
cons: one shot per cartridge, you need to know how to use it, waste

Pump
pros: multi use (many will fail at some point)
cons: weight, size, slow to fill tube, messes up the lines of a good bike frame

I use a CO2 system and carry 3 cartridges (plus a tube and patch kit). It's worked every time I've needed it. I like the fact that I can carry the whole rig in two shirt pockets (tools, tube, inflator) and not have to carry a clip on the frame or a seat bag. In addition, have multiple bikes and this way there's nothing to swap btw them or to buy seperate for all of them to be outfitted whenever I want ot go for a ride.

Although I have never used one, the Second Wind above looks like a good deal. I'm sure, however, that using the pump would take a long time. Maybe as a backup, it's still the best of both worlds.

Final notes:
1. If you are worried about the cost of cartridges, your in the wrong sport...
2. You won't catch BigLance with a frame pump or a pump sticking out of his shirt.

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CO2, very small and the extra cylinders are small also.
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Originally Posted by Grasschopper
Are the hybrid CO2/traditional pumps any good? Or should I just stick with the C02-only type? Thanks
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I'm currently using CO2 since my old pump wouldn't mount cleanly on the new bike...didn't want to risk scratching the carbon....but I feel a little at risk. I carry two cartridges and tubes, and have the same in my wife's bag, but twice in the last four years, I've had situations where either my wife or I had two flats on the same ride. It already seems like we're carrying a bunch of spares, but don't feel comfortable with less.

Bottom line...CO2 is quick and easy, pump is reliable can't be emptied. I agree with the other posts that the combo pumps are probably the best of both worlds, even with the limitations that the pumps have.
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Originally Posted by Nubie
Are the hybrid CO2/traditional pumps any good? Or should I just stick with the C02-only type? Thanks
The CO2 part is just as good as any CO2 system. The pump is better than nothing...ie running out of CO2 and walking.
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