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Why Roadies are so much more expensive than MTB's?

Old 12-11-05, 11:02 AM
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Why Roadies are so much more expensive than MTB's?

Hey guys,

I just starting at the "road bike world". And the first thing that got my attention was that roadies are almost double the price of a comparable mountain bike. Why is that? Is it because the lighter materials? Or just because there's less market for them?
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Carbon Fibre.

That's about it.
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I've never been able to figure that out myself either. That fully tricked out Gary Fisher Cake I want so badly is about half the price of an equivalent level road bike.
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I don't know what you're talking about. The Cannondale Six13 I just got listed for $4600. The MSRP on the Cannondale X country dual suspension MTB I was drooling over (a VERY equivalent bicycle really) is $5500. Mtb's are pricier than road bikes. And why wouldn't they be? MUCH more technology. Suspension forks, disc brakes, etc.
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Originally Posted by 56/12 and 22/28
Carbon Fibre.

That's about it.
wrong.

To the OP: I don't really know. I assume that road bikes cost a bit more for a few reasons.

1. The amount of R&D that goes into making a frames and other parts super light (ALL FRAME MATERIALS ) Not saying a lot of R&D doesn't go into mtn. bikes, but the emphasis there seems to be ruggedness before weight. R&D for road frames, the emphasis is on seeing making the frame capable of being paper thin and holding an elephant.
2. The amount of exposure Lance has given road bikes
3. Roadies may be perceived as richer than their mtn. bike counterparts

Also, the difference in price (at least with C'dales), doesn't seem to be as much as you suggest. A high end Cdale scalpel (with carbon stays, 56/12...), if I remember correctly, is somewhere around $4k new.

edit: patentcad may have preemptively proved me wrong

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Old 12-11-05, 11:49 AM
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Patentcard,

If you get an top-level example, it might be...but tell me for real: If you would have a 1000 dollars to spend in a bike, wich one would be the higher end? The Road or the Mountain one?
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Originally Posted by thi_sanna
Patentcard,

If you get an top-level example, it might be...but tell me for real: If you would have a 1000 dollars to spend in a bike, wich one would be the higher end? The Road or the Mountain one?
Uhh, the mountain bike, all day long. If you walked into any bike shop with $3000 to spend on a mountain bike, the bikes you'd be looking at would be in the upper crust of the MTB world. But to get to the upper echelon of the road world, you'd need another thousand bucks on top of that 3 grand. (we're talking averages here, I know I know, there's that $7000 Serrotta sitting there high on the rack, and that $5500 Intense Spider XVP)
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volume of sales.

if the average person walks into a bike shop to buy a bike, they will probably walk out with a mountain bike - even if it isn't the best for their purposes. not the shop's fault, imho. to the average person, road bikes don't look that comfortable or "cool." this means there is more competition at the lower end of the market, because there is a higher demand for "entry-level" mountain bikes than road bikes.

all this means that there will be a price disparity on the "low" end; $1000 will buy a pretty nice mountain bike or an "ok" road bike. once you get into the "enthusiast" level bikes (like the 'dales referred to earlier), the price difference goes away, because the relative volume of sales is very similar. heck, it's pretty much the same market.
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I'm telling you the Cannondale team Scalpel dual suspension is $1000 more than the Cannondale Team One full Dura Ace racing bike. I just priced them both. Once you start talking REAL high end MTB schwag - it's VERY expensive. I'm not going to own that stuff any time soon. For me a MTB is more often than not a road bike with snow tires : ). Thank God for mine. Without it I would have been off the road up here this week after a foot of snow and lots of ice/snow/salt on the road. I'd MUCH rather be on my 1999 Jamis Dragon hardtail (Reynolds 853, XTR) than on my new Cdale road bike in that crap.

A pal of mine worked for Jamis back in the 90's and he hooked me up with that Dragon hard tail - a $2400 bicycle at the time - for about $1500. I get the feeling the equivalent new bicycle today would be $2500-$3K or so. It's perfect for me. No disc brakes, but other than that fairly similar to the current Dragon model. It makes a fantastic foul weather/bad road training tool and it's fun in the woods too. Plus (and perhaps most importantly) it keeps a lot of road salt and hard winter miles off my Cannondale Six13: ).
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The cost of XC stuff is definantly comparable to roadie parts. XTR cranks-500 dollars
TOp of the line SID-800 dollars
Disc brakes can be 250 a piece. Car brakes dont even cost that much.
Then start looking at your full suspension frames, i dont think roadies are any less cheaper than the light weight XC rigs out there.
The un naked truth is that, bike parts are way overpriced.
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I just saw an $11,000 Colnago in an LBS last Saturday.
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Originally Posted by Lamplight
I just saw an $11,000 Colnago in an LBS last Saturday.
Good point, seems the only fair way to compare, if we're going to talk the super high end MTB like PATENTCAD suggested, which the Scalpel certainly is, along with the likes of Intense and Ellsworth, is to start hammering down with those super high end road bikes, like the Colnago Ferrari, what's that thing like $8,000? Or how about that BMC Time Machine for $12,000? Or some of those Look bikes, or a Storck, or a.... or a.... Trick out some of these fine road bikes and you can buy 3 great mountain bikes for the price.
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Well, for now I'm quite happy with my CDN$450 used Giant OCR-3 2002
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Originally Posted by phantomcow2
Disc brakes can be 250 a piece. Car brakes dont even cost that much.
wish my car brakes were that cheap.
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the cost of each are about the same. A nice cross rig will cost about the same as a nice road bike. Mtb acctually might cost more because if your racing that means your breaking derailers and other parts that are more fragile.
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Well I disagree that the price difference is double, its a little more but not double for two bikes that are realy comparable. Making parts light is expensive so theres some of the cost difference. Another factor is the parts that are expensive on each type of bike. On a road bike the brake/shifters (brifters) are realy quite expensive and on MTN bikes the front suspension can be quite expensive.

Now on road bikes even Sora brifters aren't that cheap and the higher quality brifters are quite expensive, even to the manufacturers. Front suspension forks for MTN bikes on the other hand aren't always that expensive. You have to spend quite a bit of money on a MTN bike before you get a standard equipment suspension fork of any real quality.

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