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What ARE the buyers who pony up $9999 for that Trek Madone THINKING?

Old 12-27-05, 10:10 PM
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After shopping for a new high end road bike (and as many of you know winding up with a Cannondale Six13 in October) I garnered a bunch of bike catalogs from Trek, Giant, etc. I'm perusing the Trek catalog and I notice their top of the line road bike is a Madone made out of some lighter carbon fiber 'just like Lance rode' and it's $9999. Yes, that's not a misprint, the MSRP is TEN LARGE. And it's got all Bontrager components (I know that doesn't exactly send most of you weenies into heart palpatations like the meer hint of 'FSA carbon' might). And the punch line is it's NOT the same bike Lance rode exactly. His had way trick tubular rim/lighter carbon wheels.

So WHAT the hell are the weenies who buy this thing THINKING??

• I'll ride just like Lance if I own this bike

• I may not ride like Lance, but I want the best and if Lance rides it, it's the best

• I can tell all my friends on the shop ride I spent $10K on my new bike

• OK, so it's NOT exactly like the bike Lance rode, but who wants those stupid sew-up tires anyway?

My Cdale is quite comparable from a performance/weight standpoint and it carried a $4600 MSRP. The Giant model that Team Telekom rides is similar. Unfortunately Specialized recently drank some of that Trek Kool Aid and priced its new 'Levi ride it' Skunkworks racing bike @ $8K+. Never overestimate the intelligence of the bike weenie consumer. Except I don't think anyone's going to be waltzing into Specialized dealers to demand 'the same bike my hero Levi rides'.

Not for nothing Specialized, but this cycling 'icon' of yours:

• Is bald

•*Has a name like a T-shirt vendor from Orchard Street in lower Manhattan

and

•*Finished SIXTH in the Tour de France last year. Very respectable and all, but hardly the stuff of 'gotta have it' cycling legend

Take those first two strikes against him and if Levi WINS the Tour it's going to be a tough 'new American cycling hero' sell compared to a guy like Lance. No knock on Levi. Great guy/cyclist. But movie star cycling icon - um... maybe if he wins TWO Tours.
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I have the bike Lance won the TdF on - in '02. Cost me $1200 at the end of '03.

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this is clearly a case of toomuchmoneyandafreakinhugeegothatmustconstantlybesatisfieditis. they need to see doctor bob. (https://www.flashplayer.com/animation/drbob.html) (https://www.flashplayer.com/animation...vestheday.html)

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It is made out of boron. You think you just can dig that stuff out of the ground?
I saw a toddler size Disco jersey at the bike store today for $65. Every kid needs one of those for riding in Mom's Burley behind her SSLx.
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I showed my parents a pic of the 10k bike and their comment was that it looked just like a 300 dollar bike, sad I know...
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Well, they added about $2 worth of 'boron strips' to the BB area. The Cannondale Six13 allegedly has some 'boron' in it too. Allegedly.

Or maybe they mean 'moron strips' on the $10K model.

I'd really LOVE to hear the Trek corporate defense of this particular bicycle. Really. I'm sure it's a wonderful racing bike. But $10K? For that kind of dough Lance and Sheryl should chopper it up to your house (and Sheryl should give you a private concert).
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What were you thinking when you bought a "$4,600 MSRP" Cannondale? When it's off-the-rack, $4,600 or $9,900, mox nix!?
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>>What were you thinking when you bought a "$4,600 MSRP" Cannondale<<

I was thinking: this bike probably outperforms the $6K IF's, Seven Cycles, Litespeeds and Serottas I could buy even though it has zero bling. But I LIKE the zero bling. And so far I'm very happy with it. That made sense to me, but that's me.
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They are thinking that they wanted that bike. If people have the $$$ and want to pay that much for a bike, I say go for it. People pay big $$$ for other stuff all the time (cars, homes, gadgets, etc.), why should bikes be any different?

I personal limit for spending on a bike is around $1500. If I can get the bike I want cheaper, then even better. If one wants to pay $2000+ for a bike and they like it, that's cool.

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Does it matter?

They helped the economy.
They are "hopefully" riding it & and reducing emissions.
If they post it on BF, I get sweet eye candy.

Everyone wins if someone buys a bike, regardless...

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Originally Posted by patentcad
>>What were you thinking when you bought a "$4,600 MSRP" Cannondale<<

I was thinking: this bike probably outperforms the $6K IF's, Seven Cycles, Litespeeds and Serottas I could buy even though it has zero bling. But I LIKE the zero bling. And so far I'm very happy with it. That made sense to me, but that's me.
A $4000 bike with zero bling? Ya got ripped off.
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The difference between ten grand and five grand may be big to you, but that difference may be inconceivable to someone on a shoestring budget who wonders why someone wants a five grand bike when they have five hundred bucks in the bank.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
So WHAT the hell are the weenies who buy this thing THINKING??
Man, someone must have got up on the wrong side of the bed today!

My 2 cents: if Trek can make them and sell them, more power to them.

A $10k bike fills the same niche as $100k+ cars, $5k+ watches, etc... you can argue the merits of spending that much on any of those products, but why? Chances are, if you are in the market for the "super high-end", you probably aren't putting in the same level of buyer research as someone who's been scrimping and saving for 6 months.
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They're thinking "its good to be rich!" Admit it, if you had a ton of money, you'd have an arsenal of bikes, including this $10K madone.
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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
I have the bike Lance won the TdF on - in '02. Cost me $1200 at the end of '03.

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what bike don't you own....





(spoken with envy, of course.... )
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Many non-cyclists have a similar reaction ("what are they thinking?!!") upon hearing that people spend $4,000 or $1,500 for a bike. Guess it largely depends on your perspective.
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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
I have the bike Lance won the TdF on - in '02. Cost me $1200 at the end of '03.

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Boy, I hate tell ya, but you got suckered. Lance's bike was blue...
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River City Bicycles here in Portland has a Serotta that stickers at over 11 grand. I was shocked. It's pretty light i think, but still....eleven thousand dollars?
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The dollar value of a bike and its worth is directly perportional to the value they get out of the bike.

For example a person who does not ride looks at a 10k bike and says WTF that thing costs as much as a car. To someone who is racing CAT1 and rides 10k+ per year and makes 100k per year 10k is a small drop in the bucket.

Some people think I am crazy for buying a 5500 dollar oboe, to me it is worth it. I play it every day, I pkay with 3 groups and people say I have the ability to go pro someday it I want ... now if it sat in my closet would it be worth 5k... NO!


Going against my handle... I do have an opinion though... 10k is never worth it for a bike... not for the few ounce savings.
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Originally Posted by jamlo21
They're thinking "its good to be rich!" Admit it, if you had a ton of money, you'd have an arsenal of bikes, including this $10K madone.
Not unless it showed potential to appreciate in value, and I think that's been established already.

Why would I want to have "Lance's bike" anyway? I think it's pretty obvious to the people who drop me on my commute that I'm not Lance Armstrong.
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Being from Australia and having an outside view of america, here is my 2 cents on why Trek sells 10 grand madone bikes that are really only worth 6 grand-

The influence on Lance to the cycling community over the world, but particularly in America by Lance is huge to say the least (the number of overweight patriotic fans running alonside lance on the alps wheezing trying to keep up for 2 seconds while still holding a huge american flag at the tour multiplied every year for the last 6 years) and I'm sure the head honcho's at Trek arent idiots, of course a lot of people with way too much money to burn are taking up the sport beacuase of Lances acheivements and if they cant be as fit as lance, at least they can look like him or ride the same bike.

Here in Australia, we have the same thing but it's just the rich overweight guys in head to toe assos ride Colnagos instead of Treks because the Lance influence is not so great, theyre doing it to pose more than anything (not that there is anything wrong with that.)

I guess at the end of the day, if it's helping the sport of cycling, who cares. I ride a $6k cannondale but bought it because of the stifness, weight, quality etc, not because Damiano Cunego is my hero.

Personally if I had $10 grand to spend on a bike I'd buy a Pinarello Paris Carbon or Time, something with a bit of prestige rather than a mass made bike but each to it's own.

(no offence to any patriotic americans who ran beside lance at the tour by the way)
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I don't really care. Why do some people buy $1k shots of tequila? Or $25k watches? Or $60k shower-curtains? Or $100k motorcycles or $500k autos? Oprah paid double the asking price for her house here ($67mil). Basically what it comes down to is whatever they're getting is worth that much to them.

Personally, I woudn't pay a penny more than $9998 for that Madone and I'd expect it to be personally autographed by Lance too!
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This reminds me of the lawyer in our town who paid $5,000 for a custom, ultra lightweight frame. When he got it all done and took it out on its maiden ride, he came back and said: "After all that money I spent, I was somewhat disappointed. I still had to pedal it!"
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Originally Posted by DannoXYZ
Oprah paid double the asking price for her house here ($67mil)
why would you pay more than asking price? that woman supposedly has a lot of money in real estate (probably more now that RE has gone up so much in the last 5 years). paying double the asking price just doesnt seem like a smart move for someone who invests. what do i know tho, if i made moves like that maybe i'd be as rich as oprah.

i also dont understand her appeal. what in the world has kept her on tv for so long?

anyways, back to the post... if I had the money I'd buy the bike just cuz... why not? who needs "bang for the buck" if you have $100mil in the bank? If you had that money why would you even bother shopping for value? You're shopping just to find ways to spend your money at that point. What would you do with the $5k you saved, buy a spare? you could just buy a spare $10k bike and not think twice.
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just think what a shock the SUV driver will have when they run over it- Ok (casually taking out wallet) so how much is a new bike like 400 dollars perhaps 500-here you go sonny and get yourself and ice cream while you are at it- what do you mean 10,000 dollars
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