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Why did you pick your Campganolo/Shimano group?

Old 12-28-05, 12:06 AM
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Why did you pick your Campganolo/Shimano group?

I DON'T want a Campy vs. Shimano war here. I DO want to know why you picked the brand/group that you did. I kind of agree with going with pedigree (Colnago gets Campy and Trek gets Shimano), but other than that, what made you pick your group? What was the upside of the one you picked and the downside of the one you didn't?

Again, I do not want a flame war, I just want to hear your thoughts. (If you can't play nice, don't play at all!)
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Trek Madone came with Ultegra. That about explains the current setup. The last was based on the need/want for a triple and at that time it was Shimano bar-ends and xt components on a custom roadbike. That setup was upgraded to a 105 shift-brake levers with the xt stuff and yes that works even though I have been told it does NOT!
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I find the shimano hoods better for my hands , and I like the way it shifts. But i have never tried the Campy shifting though , will try it in the future.
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Came with the bike.
Tried Campy - went back to Shimano. I liked the hoods better and STI shifting more. Personal choice right?

I now can say I PICKED Shimano because I like it more. Got the 10sp 105 group for XMAS.

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I bought a bike outfitted with 105 at my LBS, rode it for about 10 days and didn't like the way it shifted. Hard to trim the front derailleur on the triple, had to figure out the 2 levers on the brifters. Also I dropped the chain a few times shifting on an uphill climb.

After 10 days of frustration, LBS let me test ride a Campy equipped bike. I liked it better. Shifting controls better, shifting smoother, + unexpected benefit: I can drop multiple cogs in the rear. Long story short, LBS stripped off all the Shimano and rebuilt it as a Campy bike! That's great LBS service.

I was predisposed to Shimano, ended up with Campy. That's the story, I didn't consider myself a fanatic for either, but now I'm a Campy fan.
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How does Campy shift differently? All I've ever used are the lousy Sora thumb shifters.
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came with my bike. i'll probably stick with shimano, just because I'm used to it now.
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Shimano came with the bikes. I'll probably stick with shimano to keep things simple.
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I built up my last bike with Campy record because I always wanted to.


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Euphoria, I only tried Sora once, on a test ride, so I only vaguely remember them. I think the Campy thumb levers are better positioned and more comfortable for shifting in the drops. And it lets you drop 3 or 4 rear cogs at a time.
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Originally Posted by backinthesaddle
Euphoria, I only tried Sora once, on a test ride, so I only vaguely remember them. I think the Campy thumb levers are better positioned and more comfortable for shifting in the drops. And it lets you drop 3 or 4 rear cogs at a time.

In all fairness, Sora is not a real Shimano STI shifter, so it does not offer a real benchmark for testing the feel of Shimano STI versus Campy Ergo.
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As far as feel goes, it is apersonal decision for everyone. I prefer the feel of Campy.

Also, Campy components are repairable, which I really like for the longevity issue.

And for those who like to say it, "It's Italian."
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I originally went with Campy Record back in 1993 because I didn't like those exposed ugly ass STI cables. Still on the same road bike...
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I went for Shimano.
In my country,Shimano parts are dominant,Campy,on the otherhand,are not easily obtainable.LBS don't carry a lot of Campy grouppos.
Whats more,Campy parts are unreasonably much more expensive than Shimano parts of the same level.
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Been riding for 50 years on campy equiped bikes. Have slowed down to 3Kmi/year these days so I still am a good test platform. Nothing against Shimano or other parts as everything today is the highest of the machinist's art form. Have ridden Dura Ace 10spd group recently on a friend's bike and liked the components until I did a rapid descent and found that the braking power of the campy double/differential pivot calipers were easier to stop with (220lbs). With campy I never have to leave the hoods and with the Shimano brakes I had to use the drops for enough leverage.
Also, I do all my own mechanic work including wheel building and like that I can rebuild the campy parts easily. Other wise the parts out there today are all pretty good. Don
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Old 12-28-05, 06:25 AM
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Originally when I bought my first Campy Record gruppo in 98 it was because I believed it was a better groupset. It was also more beautiful to look at (and still is IMHO). Now with the new DA performance wise I'd say they are equal, however I like the egronomics of the Campy brifter, Shimano brifters are uncomfortable for me. I honestly wish they weren't, getting used Shimamo stuff is so much easier, the cassettsa are much less expesive as are the chainrings. If I could get past the egronomics issue I'd switch in a heartbeat.
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Originally Posted by quitchat
I went for Shimano.
In my country,Shimano parts are dominant,Campy,on the otherhand,are not easily obtainable.LBS don't carry a lot of Campy grouppos.
Whats more,Campy parts are unreasonably much more expensive than Shimano parts of the same level.
Well, it seems in North America, that the brifters for Shimano are quite expensive. Campy Record brifters are just around $300 while Dura Ace and even Ultegra are at or above Record. Since many people compare Chorus to Ultegra, the Record brifters are a steal with all that carbon fiber.

I use Chorus brifters and a Veloce rear derailleur, Ultegra FD and Shimano wheelset with a Branford Bike spacer conversion set.

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Got a new bike, made in Italy. I felt obligated to use campy. Not only because its Italian, but because its so nice to look at. Since I have fallen in love with just about every thing but the price tag on some parts, but when it comes down to it, I don't think its really that much more than shimano.

I like the feel of the ergos more, and though I haven't used 10 speed shimano, my record and even my centaur bikes shift nicer than my 9s ultegra.
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Ultegra 10 came with my bike. Simple as that. Next bike will have Dura-ace or Record or even the Sram group. I just have to try them out and see if I like it. I'm not going to go blind and spend $2000 on a groupo. However if i'm on a sponsored team and I'm given one of those three, i'm not going to complain.
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I used to run Shimano but it is so blah...mechanical...no sex. So I look at Campagnolo and I see no cables hanging out in the wind...I see Carbon Fiber everywhere...I see sex.

They both do their job just fine...the new Shimano 10 speed stuff is super smooth and works great. The Camapgnolo looks better IMO and I like the way the levers are setup...plus not everyone has it.

Other than that I just like it better.
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My bike came with a Shimano "mutt" group -- some Sora, some Tiagra, some 2200. I considered a Campy upgrade, because I've ridden Campy before, but it seemed like just too much for a Trek 1000. I went with Tiagra because it was the highest Shimano group that was already installed (in part) on my bike, it's a quality group, and it hasn't been too expensive to bring the Sora and 2200 components to that level.

Granted, I still have to do brifters and cranks which are the most expensive of the lot. Even so, it's been an inexpensive and painless upgrade, the bike rides all the better for it, and I like it.
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back when I started riding you either rode Campy or Suntour (or french but
that's a whole other discussion), Campy had much more snob appeal even
if they didn't shift as well as the suntour stuff. I always lusted after
a full campy bike, my trek came with it (1985 670) and its on every
bike I've built since.
For me, other than the snob appeal, it just works, and is repairable.
just had my 8 speed brifters rebuilt can't do that with shimano.

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Historical anomoly. Back in the day Campy Nuevo Record was the big deal. then came indexing, and Campy's first index shifting systems were terrible. The athena Group was supposed to be the first Campy index group that worked. I built a bike with it in 1989, and it sucked, would never shift correctly. Switched to D/A, and now on my fourth D/A group. No doubt that Campy Record shifts wonderfully now, but once you lock into a system, it's hard to change, as you accumulate wheels, and cassettes.
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Well...it could be like a PC/Apple kind of thing....

On the desk sits a PC... but under foot/rear/hands it's Campy (mostly). I do have Shimano 105 STI (8 speed) on the tandem, as that is what it came with. I did switch the left lever on the tandem to Campy ERGO because of the trim issues already noted by other posters.

Both Campy and Shimano shift the gear without any problem. However, IMHO, Campy is superior for the following reasons:

1. ERGO levers are rebuildable and will conceivably last forever
2. ERGO levers hide all the cables
3. ERGO levers can shift 3 gears at a time
4. ERGO levers have virtually unlimited trim on the left lever
5. STI levers look like you have the bumper off a '57 Caddy bolted to the front of the bike
6. It's Italian!!!!
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when i was originally going to get a custom bike... i was going to have it built with record.. but found out that the crank doesn't come in 167.5....

then when i got my carbon instead... it came with dura-ace.. plus i just feel like "american company" bike gets shimano and the european bikes get campy... strictly my opinion!

i would have like record cuz the shifters are smaller for my smaller hands... i've gotten used to the bigger dura-ace shifters though... and i'm happy with it so far!
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