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12-31-05, 11:56 AM
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...has got to be where Erik Zabel gets knocked off of his bike by one of a couple of farmer's horses that went chasing after the peloton in a race in Europe.
Zabel didn't know what hit him . Liggett describes the "sprint finish" between the two equines!
I can't find a clip anywhere but it's on this DVD. I laughed so hard (Liggett couldn't stop himself either) that I thought that I was going to hyperventilate!
Zabel didn't know what hit him . Liggett describes the "sprint finish" between the two equines!
I can't find a clip anywhere but it's on this DVD. I laughed so hard (Liggett couldn't stop himself either) that I thought that I was going to hyperventilate!
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Originally Posted by mooncake
...has got to be where Erik Zabel gets knocked off of his bike by a farmer's horse that comes chasing after the peloton in a race in Europe.
I can't find a clip anywhere but it's on this DVD. I laughed so hard (Liggett couldn't stop himself either) that I thought that is was going to hyperventilate!
I can't find a clip anywhere but it's on this DVD. I laughed so hard (Liggett couldn't stop himself either) that I thought that is was going to hyperventilate!
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12-31-05, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by shabbasuraj
horse wins
or approximately 34 miles an hour.
j/k.
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12-31-05, 03:17 PM
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How many minutes is that DVD?
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Originally Posted by lala
How many minutes is that DVD?
just ignore the CHEESY sound effects and weird german-nihilist-industrial-techno crap music
besides that it's great
(some of the sound effects are a bit out of place, they'll show a guy practically die and fall off a cliff, accompanied by 'funny cartoon' sound effects--kinda surreal)
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A LBS I shop at plays that on their floor t.v. that customers can watch. 
Hard to watch stuff. Worst is that finish line sprint were the dude gets caught up in the the spectator wall at full speed.
Hard to watch stuff. Worst is that finish line sprint were the dude gets caught up in the the spectator wall at full speed.
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Originally Posted by lala
How many minutes is that DVD?
01-01-06, 01:35 PM
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Actually that's surprising to me - I thought horses (racehorses) top out at about 40 mph? Would expect Zabel to be able to beat that, did the horses angle in on him?
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Originally Posted by Litespeed35
Actually that's surprising to me - I thought horses (racehorses) top out at about 40 mph? Would expect Zabel to be able to beat that, did the horses angle in on him?
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Originally Posted by pigmode
The horse got mixed up in a bunch sprint, or does Zabel ride at that speed all of the time?
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Originally Posted by soni_guin
1 horse = 17 horsepower
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Originally Posted by Warblade
Your probably right, technically speaking. But I thought that WAY back when they first did "horsepower" stuff they used ONE horse as ONE horsepower?? Makes sense...
History of the term "horsepower"
The term "horsepower" was invented by James Watt to help market his improved steam engine. He had previously agreed to take royalties of one third of the savings in coal from the older Newcomen steam engines[3]. This royalty scheme did not work with customers who did not have existing steam engines but used horses instead. Watt determined that a horse could turn a mill wheel 144 times in an hour (or 2.4 times a minute). The wheel was 12 feet in radius, thus in a minute the horse travelled 2.4 × 2π × 12 feet. Watt judged that the horse could pull with a force of 180 pounds (just assuming that the measurements of mass were equivalent to measurements of force in pounds-force, which were not well-defined units at the time). So:
power = \frac{work}{time} = \frac{force \times distance}{time} = \frac{(180 \mbox{ lbf})(2.4 \times 2 \pi \times 12 \mbox{ ft})}{1\ \mbox{min}}=32,572 \frac{\mbox{ft} \cdot \mbox{lbf}}{\mbox{min}}
This was rounded to an even 33,000 ft·lbf/min[4].
Others recount that Watt determined that a pony could lift an average 220 pounds 100 feet (30 m) per minute over a four-hour working shift. Watt then judged a horse was 50% more powerful than a pony and thus arrived at the 33,000 ft·lbf/min figure[5].
Engineering in History recounts that John Smeaton initially estimated that a horse could produce 22,916 foot-pounds per minute. John Desaguliers increased that to 27,500 foot-pounds per minute. "Watt found by experiment in 1782 that a 'brewery horse' was able to produce 32,400 foot-pounds per minute". James Watt and Matthew Boulton standardized that figure at 33,000 the next year[6].
Put into perspective, a healthy human can sustain about 0.1 horsepower, and trained athletes can manage up to about 0.3 horsepower for a period of several hours. Most observers familiar with horses and their capabilities estimate that Watt was either a bit optimistic or intended to underpromise and overdeliver; few horses can maintain that effort for long. Regardless, comparison to a horse proved to be an enduring marketing tool.
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That scene was an interesting one, what is also funny are the guys that were still riding and had no idea a horse was on their running right behind them! I like the parts where the riders smack and push the spectators.
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Originally Posted by bikenutr2000
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I like the parts where the riders smack and push the spectators.
I like the parts where the riders smack and push the spectators.
yes! or cipo throwing waterbottles at the motorbikes!
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Originally Posted by mooncake
...has got to be where Erik Zabel gets knocked off of his bike by one of a couple of farmer's horses that went chasing after the peloton in a race in Europe.
01-01-06, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dead Extra #2
From the wikipedia
History of the term "horsepower"
The term "horsepower" was invented by James( I have my power output set to 400 )Watt to help market his improved steam engine. He had previously agreed to take royalties of one third of the savings in coal from the older Newcomen steam engines[3]. This royalty scheme did not work with customers who did not have existing steam engines but used horses instead. Watt determined that a horse could turn a mill wheel 144 times in an hour (or 2.4 times a minute). The wheel was 12 feet in radius, thus in a minute the horse travelled 2.4 × 2π × 12 feet. Watt judged that the horse could pull with a force of 180 pounds (just assuming that the measurements of mass were equivalent to measurements of force in pounds-force, which were not well-defined units at the time). So:
power = \frac{work}{time} = \frac{force \times distance}{time} = \frac{(180 \mbox{ lbf})(2.4 \times 2 \pi \times 12 \mbox{ ft})}{1\ \mbox{min}}=32,572 \frac{\mbox{ft} \cdot \mbox{lbf}}{\mbox{min}}
This was rounded to an even 33,000 ft·lbf/min[4].
Others recount that Watt determined that a pony could lift an average 220 pounds 100 feet (30 m) per minute over a four-hour working shift. Watt then judged a horse was 50% more powerful than a pony and thus arrived at the 33,000 ft·lbf/min figure[5].
Engineering in History recounts that John Smeaton initially estimated that a horse could produce 22,916 foot-pounds per minute. John Desaguliers increased that to 27,500 foot-pounds per minute. "Watt found by experiment in 1782 that a 'brewery horse' was able to produce 32,400 foot-pounds per minute". James Watt and Matthew Boulton standardized that figure at 33,000 the next year[6].
Put into perspective, a healthy human can sustain about 0.1 horsepower, and trained athletes can manage up to about 0.3 horsepower for a period of several hours. Most observers familiar with horses and their capabilities estimate that Watt was either a bit optimistic or intended to underpromise and overdeliver; few horses can maintain that effort for long. Regardless, comparison to a horse proved to be an enduring marketing tool.
History of the term "horsepower"
The term "horsepower" was invented by James( I have my power output set to 400 )Watt to help market his improved steam engine. He had previously agreed to take royalties of one third of the savings in coal from the older Newcomen steam engines[3]. This royalty scheme did not work with customers who did not have existing steam engines but used horses instead. Watt determined that a horse could turn a mill wheel 144 times in an hour (or 2.4 times a minute). The wheel was 12 feet in radius, thus in a minute the horse travelled 2.4 × 2π × 12 feet. Watt judged that the horse could pull with a force of 180 pounds (just assuming that the measurements of mass were equivalent to measurements of force in pounds-force, which were not well-defined units at the time). So:
power = \frac{work}{time} = \frac{force \times distance}{time} = \frac{(180 \mbox{ lbf})(2.4 \times 2 \pi \times 12 \mbox{ ft})}{1\ \mbox{min}}=32,572 \frac{\mbox{ft} \cdot \mbox{lbf}}{\mbox{min}}
This was rounded to an even 33,000 ft·lbf/min[4].
Others recount that Watt determined that a pony could lift an average 220 pounds 100 feet (30 m) per minute over a four-hour working shift. Watt then judged a horse was 50% more powerful than a pony and thus arrived at the 33,000 ft·lbf/min figure[5].
Engineering in History recounts that John Smeaton initially estimated that a horse could produce 22,916 foot-pounds per minute. John Desaguliers increased that to 27,500 foot-pounds per minute. "Watt found by experiment in 1782 that a 'brewery horse' was able to produce 32,400 foot-pounds per minute". James Watt and Matthew Boulton standardized that figure at 33,000 the next year[6].
Put into perspective, a healthy human can sustain about 0.1 horsepower, and trained athletes can manage up to about 0.3 horsepower for a period of several hours. Most observers familiar with horses and their capabilities estimate that Watt was either a bit optimistic or intended to underpromise and overdeliver; few horses can maintain that effort for long. Regardless, comparison to a horse proved to be an enduring marketing tool.
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Originally Posted by bikenutr2000
That scene was an interesting one, what is also funny are the guys that were still riding and had no idea a horse was on their running right behind them! I like the parts where the riders smack and push the spectators.
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat
yes! or cipo throwing waterbottles at the motorbikes!
Then this Goomba wonders why the TDF officials snubbed him this year.
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funny, I think the guy is a clown as well--but you gotta see the scene, it's frickin' hilarious
it makes him look like a total prick, but still--funny as heck cycling fabio
it makes him look like a total prick, but still--funny as heck
cycling fabio
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat
funny, I think the guy is a clown as well--but you gotta see the scene, it's frickin' hilarious
it makes him look like a total prick, but still--funny as heck cycling fabio
it makes him look like a total prick, but still--funny as heck
cycling fabio Both are grossly overated
(google what the late, great George Best said about Beckham's footballing abilities-funny!)