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Old 12-31-05, 11:56 AM
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...has got to be where Erik Zabel gets knocked off of his bike by one of a couple of farmer's horses that went chasing after the peloton in a race in Europe.

Zabel didn't know what hit him . Liggett describes the "sprint finish" between the two equines!

I can't find a clip anywhere but it's on this DVD. I laughed so hard (Liggett couldn't stop himself either) that I thought that I was going to hyperventilate!

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Theres no outrunning a horse either... yuck...
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Originally Posted by mooncake
...has got to be where Erik Zabel gets knocked off of his bike by a farmer's horse that comes chasing after the peloton in a race in Europe.

I can't find a clip anywhere but it's on this DVD. I laughed so hard (Liggett couldn't stop himself either) that I thought that is was going to hyperventilate!
There's no way in hell I could be forced to watch that DVD. Broken bones, scrapes and bruises are not my bag ... skivey!!

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horse wins
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Originally Posted by shabbasuraj
horse wins
1 horsepower = ~750 watts

or approximately 34 miles an hour.

j/k.

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How many minutes is that DVD?
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Just go to some of the more popular video archive sites and search "Bike" and similar terms... that's free
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Originally Posted by lala
How many minutes is that DVD?
I dunno, I'm at work right now--but the DVD is awesome

just ignore the CHEESY sound effects and weird german-nihilist-industrial-techno crap music

besides that it's great



(some of the sound effects are a bit out of place, they'll show a guy practically die and fall off a cliff, accompanied by 'funny cartoon' sound effects--kinda surreal)
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A LBS I shop at plays that on their floor t.v. that customers can watch. Hard to watch stuff. Worst is that finish line sprint were the dude gets caught up in the the spectator wall at full speed.
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Originally Posted by lala
How many minutes is that DVD?
"CRASH! - the one you've always wanted! WCP customers have been asking for this show for years. Straight from the WCP archives, an eye-popping, jaw-dropping show that will leave you in pain. You'll see crashes from the Tour de France, the Giro d'Italia, the Spring Classics, and even crashes from the 50s and 60s! Here are some of the worst sprint crashes ever recorded, including Abdoujaparov's unforgettable crash on the finish line of the Tour de France: he looks like a rag doll sliding accross the pavement. Plus, Jalabert's crash at the Tour, which left a policeman with a broken leg. How about Hincapie going head over heels into a ditch at Roubaix, Gianni Bugno punching a fan with his bike wheel, and Andy Hampsten punching a fan with his fist on his way up Alpe d'Huez? Eddy Merckx runs over a dog, riders run into cars, and more. In glorious color, full speed and slow motion. 85 minutes."
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I'm too superstitious to watch that. Or maybe too neurotic.
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Actually that's surprising to me - I thought horses (racehorses) top out at about 40 mph? Would expect Zabel to be able to beat that, did the horses angle in on him?
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Originally Posted by Litespeed35
Actually that's surprising to me - I thought horses (racehorses) top out at about 40 mph? Would expect Zabel to be able to beat that, did the horses angle in on him?
The horse got mixed up in a bunch sprint, or does Zabel ride at that speed all of the time?
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1 horse = 17 horsepower
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Originally Posted by pigmode
The horse got mixed up in a bunch sprint, or does Zabel ride at that speed all of the time?
No, they're only hitting 40+ in a sprint (on the flats).
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Originally Posted by soni_guin
1 horse = 17 horsepower
Your probably right, technically speaking. But I thought that WAY back when they first did "horsepower" stuff they used ONE horse as ONE horsepower?? Makes sense...
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Originally Posted by Warblade
Your probably right, technically speaking. But I thought that WAY back when they first did "horsepower" stuff they used ONE horse as ONE horsepower?? Makes sense...
From the wikipedia


History of the term "horsepower"

The term "horsepower" was invented by James Watt to help market his improved steam engine. He had previously agreed to take royalties of one third of the savings in coal from the older Newcomen steam engines[3]. This royalty scheme did not work with customers who did not have existing steam engines but used horses instead. Watt determined that a horse could turn a mill wheel 144 times in an hour (or 2.4 times a minute). The wheel was 12 feet in radius, thus in a minute the horse travelled 2.4 × 2π × 12 feet. Watt judged that the horse could pull with a force of 180 pounds (just assuming that the measurements of mass were equivalent to measurements of force in pounds-force, which were not well-defined units at the time). So:

power = \frac{work}{time} = \frac{force \times distance}{time} = \frac{(180 \mbox{ lbf})(2.4 \times 2 \pi \times 12 \mbox{ ft})}{1\ \mbox{min}}=32,572 \frac{\mbox{ft} \cdot \mbox{lbf}}{\mbox{min}}

This was rounded to an even 33,000 ft·lbf/min[4].

Others recount that Watt determined that a pony could lift an average 220 pounds 100 feet (30 m) per minute over a four-hour working shift. Watt then judged a horse was 50% more powerful than a pony and thus arrived at the 33,000 ft·lbf/min figure[5].

Engineering in History recounts that John Smeaton initially estimated that a horse could produce 22,916 foot-pounds per minute. John Desaguliers increased that to 27,500 foot-pounds per minute. "Watt found by experiment in 1782 that a 'brewery horse' was able to produce 32,400 foot-pounds per minute". James Watt and Matthew Boulton standardized that figure at 33,000 the next year[6].

Put into perspective, a healthy human can sustain about 0.1 horsepower, and trained athletes can manage up to about 0.3 horsepower for a period of several hours. Most observers familiar with horses and their capabilities estimate that Watt was either a bit optimistic or intended to underpromise and overdeliver; few horses can maintain that effort for long. Regardless, comparison to a horse proved to be an enduring marketing tool.
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That scene was an interesting one, what is also funny are the guys that were still riding and had no idea a horse was on their running right behind them! I like the parts where the riders smack and push the spectators.
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Originally Posted by bikenutr2000
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I like the parts where the riders smack and push the spectators.

yes! or cipo throwing waterbottles at the motorbikes!

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Originally Posted by mooncake
...has got to be where Erik Zabel gets knocked off of his bike by one of a couple of farmer's horses that went chasing after the peloton in a race in Europe.
I rented the race video with that one... it was weird... the horses got all excited and tried to join the peleton. After a km or two they go straight into the town centre as the pack takes a left turn.
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Originally Posted by Dead Extra #2
From the wikipedia


History of the term "horsepower"

The term "horsepower" was invented by James( I have my power output set to 400 )Watt to help market his improved steam engine. He had previously agreed to take royalties of one third of the savings in coal from the older Newcomen steam engines[3]. This royalty scheme did not work with customers who did not have existing steam engines but used horses instead. Watt determined that a horse could turn a mill wheel 144 times in an hour (or 2.4 times a minute). The wheel was 12 feet in radius, thus in a minute the horse travelled 2.4 × 2π × 12 feet. Watt judged that the horse could pull with a force of 180 pounds (just assuming that the measurements of mass were equivalent to measurements of force in pounds-force, which were not well-defined units at the time). So:

power = \frac{work}{time} = \frac{force \times distance}{time} = \frac{(180 \mbox{ lbf})(2.4 \times 2 \pi \times 12 \mbox{ ft})}{1\ \mbox{min}}=32,572 \frac{\mbox{ft} \cdot \mbox{lbf}}{\mbox{min}}

This was rounded to an even 33,000 ft·lbf/min[4].

Others recount that Watt determined that a pony could lift an average 220 pounds 100 feet (30 m) per minute over a four-hour working shift. Watt then judged a horse was 50% more powerful than a pony and thus arrived at the 33,000 ft·lbf/min figure[5].

Engineering in History recounts that John Smeaton initially estimated that a horse could produce 22,916 foot-pounds per minute. John Desaguliers increased that to 27,500 foot-pounds per minute. "Watt found by experiment in 1782 that a 'brewery horse' was able to produce 32,400 foot-pounds per minute". James Watt and Matthew Boulton standardized that figure at 33,000 the next year[6].

Put into perspective, a healthy human can sustain about 0.1 horsepower, and trained athletes can manage up to about 0.3 horsepower for a period of several hours. Most observers familiar with horses and their capabilities estimate that Watt was either a bit optimistic or intended to underpromise and overdeliver; few horses can maintain that effort for long. Regardless, comparison to a horse proved to be an enduring marketing tool.
HMMMM.........
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Originally Posted by bikenutr2000
That scene was an interesting one, what is also funny are the guys that were still riding and had no idea a horse was on their running right behind them! I like the parts where the riders smack and push the spectators.
I'd like to add that the horse that cross-checked Zabel was weird-looking. Both horses were short and stocky, like miniature Clydesdales...
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat
yes! or cipo throwing waterbottles at the motorbikes!

I think Cipo was a narcissistic poseur. Sure, he was a great sprinter but so what. The guy never saw a mountain that he didn't feel like quitting.

Then this Goomba wonders why the TDF officials snubbed him this year.
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funny, I think the guy is a clown as well--but you gotta see the scene, it's frickin' hilarious

it makes him look like a total prick, but still--funny as heck cycling fabio


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Originally Posted by Ziggurat
funny, I think the guy is a clown as well--but you gotta see the scene, it's frickin' hilarious

it makes him look like a total prick, but still--funny as heck cycling fabio


Perfect. This guy is the David Beckham of cycling. They both have mirrors all over their houses for sure...

Both are grossly overated (google what the late, great George Best said about Beckham's footballing abilities-funny!)
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