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Giant TCR vs. OCR...choices

Old 01-06-06, 07:01 PM
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Giant TCR vs. OCR...choices

I just started getting back into riding and am looking at a new bike. I have an source at Giant where I can get the bikes at a great price. The bikes I can choose from are;TCR Composite 1, TCR Composite Limited, OCR Composite 1 or OCR Composite Limited.

I am going to use the bike to mainly put miles on this year and start racing later this year. I live in Nor-Cal and mainly ride flats with some longer hills. Right now I am riding about 125 miles aweek and plan to go up to about 200.

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Old 01-06-06, 07:05 PM
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My understanding is that the OCR line is more of a rec bike and the TCR is more along the lines of a racer. That being said, I too am just getting back into it and bought my brother's '03 OCR-1. So far it's been a champ and has taken up a few hills and 40 miles today. I've got no complaints with mine.

Where abouts in NorCal are you?
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Yeah, the OCR is a bit more upright position. The OCR's also come with triples. Either bike would be fine, but if you are going to start racing, I would personally go with the TCR.

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After looking, it appears the TCR 1 comes with a better set of wheels and rear derailleur. Not sure what the price difference is, but I'd lean towards that one.
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I am near Woodland.

My first choice is to go with the TCR 1. But, I do like the ergonomics of the OCR as well.

Thanks for the quick replies!
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Basic differences between the two are ergonomics and doulbe vs. triple. I have an OCR - it is an outstanding century bike, and climbs well. I know a guy that bought a TCR, after the LBS converted it to a triple for him. He loves it.
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I have an OCR C2 and I love it, but since you're getting into racing, you'll probably be happier with the TCR. I'm assuming that you're in good enough shape to tackle the hills in your area without the need for a triple.
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I have an OCR Limited, The upright position felt better on my 41yo back.
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I own a 2004 TCR Comp 1 which I love. I've done everything on it, from riding to get Sunday brunch, to USCF racing, to qualifying for RAAM. If there's a better all-around bicycle out there, I'd like to know what it is. Btw, the bike is indestructible. I've tried.
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OCR is heavier, but more comfortable because of the upright position. Slightly softer ride.

TCR is lighter and faster, at the expense of comfort.
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Originally Posted by djtrackie
OCR is heavier, but more comfortable because of the upright position. Slightly softer ride.

TCR is lighter and faster, at the expense of comfort.
My bone-stock OCR Limited, size large, weighs about 20.5lbs. I put it on the LBS scale the day I bought it. Wedge pack, water bottles, and pump not included.
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Well to start with both the 1's are significantly better specified than the limited's paticuarly with their Mavic Ksyrium Elite wheels.

I would look seriously at the OCR 1 actually. It's not honestly slower in anyway than the TCR 1. You could consider the OCR 1 to be more of a classic long stage bike where the TCR is more of a sprint/criterium bike. The OCR will be more comfortable to put the miles on and if you want to train then that's what you need to do.

Look at Lance. Lance sits quite upright compared to most of the riders around him and it hasn't hurt his results in any noticeable way.

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Does? all this talk of the OCR's more ergonomic and upright position actually have to do with frame geometry?

I have the suspicion it's just because of a longer steering tube and a different stem...
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Originally Posted by javna_golina
Does? all this talk of the OCR's more ergonomic and upright position actually have to do with frame geometry?

I have the suspicion it's just because of a longer steering tube and a different stem...
Depends on the size. Across the board the OCR's have a 418 mm chainstay length rather than the 407 mm chainstay length on the TCR's, longer steering tubes which set the handlebars higher and more tire clearance for larger tires and/or fenders. In the smallest two sizes, xs and s they are otherwise identical geometry wise but in the larger sizes from medium up the geometry is .5 more relaxed on the OCR's and the OCR's have slightly shorter top tube lengths. The OCR's also have curved blade forks where as the TCR's have straight blade forks.

Personaly I believe that fit is more important to performance than most other factors. Todays fashion is to make things steeper and tighter but classical tour bikes were more relaxed than the current offerings.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyG
Depends on the size. Across the board the OCR's have a 418 mm chainstay length rather than the 407 mm chainstay length on the TCR's, longer steering tubes which set the handlebars higher and more tire clearance for larger tires and/or fenders. In the smallest two sizes, xs and s they are otherwise identical geometry wise but in the larger sizes from medium up the geometry is .5 more relaxed on the OCR's and the OCR's have slightly shorter top tube lengths. The OCR's also have curved blade forks where as the TCR's have straight blade forks.

Personaly I believe that fit is more important to performance than most other factors. Todays fashion is to make things steeper and tighter but classical tour bikes were more relaxed than the current offerings.

Regards, Anthony
Having a look at the geometry I think the TCRs is really tight, even for a racing bike...

But i mean if you want to be aero you could always set up the OCR to have low bars.

this whole ergonomic thing seems like a bunch of hype. 2mm wider tires and a normal road geometry doesn't mean it's a limousine...
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Originally Posted by bigbossman
My bone-stock OCR Limited, size large, weighs about 20.5lbs. I put it on the LBS scale the day I bought it. Wedge pack, water bottles, and pump not included.
I highly doubt that... Those Xero wheels are anchors and so is the triple crank...
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Originally Posted by djtrackie
I highly doubt that... Those Xero wheels are anchors and so is the triple crank...
I put it on the scale myself. Funny - I didn't see you looking over my shoulder........
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Well I bought both a TCR (Comp2) and an OCR (Comp Limited) in the last 4 months. The TCR is for me (I'm 52), the OCR was for my wife (age not given). I'm very happy with the bike, climbs well and is fast. I'd love the Comp1, but not enough to spend the extra bucks. I got the OCR for my wife because she doesn't ride as much and the triple would be a plus for her. To me it would be a toss up, definitely (given you could afford both), I'd unquestionable go with the Comp 1 - either one would work. If you were into racing or plan to be, I'd say the TCR, but will that really get you any extra seconds? Maybe, there is a slight weight difference.
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I have an OCR Limited. I got a great deal on it (it was a demo, but I was the only one who demoed it) and spent the saving upgrading the wheel set to Nimble Spiders. I love it. I'm old (58) and did 6000 miles on it 2005.
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