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Velocity or Speed-cific hubs?

Old 01-06-06, 10:54 PM
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Velocity or Speed-cific hubs?

While searching for a possible new set of wheels, I am torn between which hubs I should go with. I am planning on a set of Aerohead rims with DT 14/15/14 DB spokes. The only remaining factor is to go with either Velocity hubs, or Speed-cific hubs.

Velocity builds their wheels with the Velocity hubs, and Mike Garcia builds his Aeroheads with Speed-cifics. The hubs and other wheel components are about the same price when purchased individually, but Mike Garcia's wheel prices are about $60 higher than Velocity wheels/set. I am guessing Mikes price is higher mainly due to labor cost.

However, as far as the hubs themselves go, which hubs are better hubs? Speed-cific, or Velocity?
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Never had Velocity hubs, but I've had my MG Velocity Aeroheads for a year now. I think the hubs are great and don't regret the purchase. By the way, did you factor in that freight is included in Mike's prices?
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Yeah the Aeroheads are $340/set, and the Velocity version is $272/set plus shipping (~$25?).

I guess for $40 more, the MG's are a guaraunteed bombproof custom built wheel.
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don't know anything about the velocity hubs but I have had the below for over a year without an issue, I am 6', ~190ish and trash everything I have ever tried except these - I blew out the hub bearings and the newer design was overnighted to me n/c - much better design, the end caps just screw in like the front - very quick to take apart and clean or swap with another hub body if you change cassettes - I use campy all the time except when in europe when I switch to shimano and a mtb rear - nice only paying $ 30 for a hub body - Mike is just flat out the best, he is the only guy that will ever get my wheel money from now on - as an added + tires mount w/o tools on and off - yes, even pro race and the wheels are super good in wind, no effect comp to a K - shipping inc in the price, extra spokes, 2 year warranty - I cannot see any downside.

Mike Garcia built Velocity Aeroheads
front is 32 hole, wheelsmith xl 14/17-2x, blk rim, blk speedcific hub, blk brass nips
rear is 32 hole off-set, xl 14/17-2x non-drive, db 14/15 drive, blk rim, blk speedcific hub (2nd generation) brass nips
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Originally Posted by Chris#2
...very quick to take apart and clean or swap with another hub body if you change cassettes - I use campy all the time except when in europe when I switch to shimano and a mtb rear - nice only paying $ 30 for a hub body...
Rolf wanted $160 to change the hub body and I've been meaning to call Mike to find out what it would take with the Speedcific hubs. One of these is going Campy for the Tete.

Thanks for answering that.

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For the Tete?

Niobium 30's.
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Originally Posted by Patriot
For the Tete?

Niobium 30's.
The Vigors and the X-Lite Aeros are virtually the same as the 30's. And as good as the Niobium's are, I don't need nor want another set.
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If your disatisfied with those old broken down Vigors with no stickers, I'll take them off your hands. Wouldn't want you to toss them in the dumpster for another set of Korso's.
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Originally Posted by Patriot
If your disatisfied with those old broken down Vigors with no stickers, I'll take them off your hands. Wouldn't want you to toss them in the dumpster for another set of Korso's.
If I crunch them again, I might take you up on that!

How's the rain up there? 65 degrees and clear out here by the pool. Got a 'gar going.

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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
Rolf wanted $160 to change the hub body and I've been meaning to call Mike to find out what it would take with the Speedcific hubs. One of these is going Campy for the Tete.

Thanks for answering that.

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Hey Rad - I had this swap done. Total cost for me was $50 (including return shipping) but I also got a lock ring and had him check the front wheel to make sure it was perfectly true which cost me a couple of bucks I think. Mike turned the job fast (I am sure you know he had to redish the wheel for this swap) and I got the Shimano parts as well if I ever decide I want to go back.
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Patriot,

This is easy.

Which one looks better?
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Hip, the Speeds are nice looking hubs (internally). Don't know about the engineering of the Velocities. The outer profile of the two are about the same. The Speed's seem to have more of a matte finish from the pics on MG's site. The Velocity's are polished gloss black only. I can pick up a set of Nuvians/Aeroheads with Velocity hubs for $210 off Chucks bikes site, but they have a 24F/32R spoke count. The 32R is good, but for my friend who is 220#, I am thinking the 24F may not be such a good idea.

I am thinking he will need 32F/32R 14/15/14 DB spokes, just to make sure. The Speed-cific hubs are probably a little stronger too. Worth an extra $100 I think. The price of the cheaper Velocities is tempting though.


Rad, I rode home last night (midnight), and it was 51F and a few showers here and there, but mostly just wet roads. Lots of sand and grit on my legs and booties when I got home. Not too bad, but not 80F and sunny either.

Put the 'gar down and take a dip for me, will ya?
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Patriot - the Speedcific silver hubs are polished - they are gorgeous. But don't you want black?
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I am thinking I may stick with the MG's, because he has two options for hub color, and multiple rim colors, compared to others. The wheels will be for my friends who want me to build their bikes. I am definitely thinking now that MG's are the way to go, rather than trying to compromise for the sake of price.
They'll be for the flat bar road bikes I am planning. They no nothing of wheels, components, etc. So, they are trusting my judgement to put together something they will love to ride, yet be light, stylish, and reliable. With MG's wheels, I can give my friends options to have the wheels built the way they want them.
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Smart call - let them choose the colors. Also, don't forget that Mike offers color options for the nipples too. Imagine electric blue rims with candy red nipples and polished silver hubs and spokes.

Wait, that's what I got.

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Since I may be going with nude Ti or carbon frames, I am thinking they may want to stick to silver/black. But, they can at least mix and match the two as they like. Black hubs, silver spokes, black nipples, silver rims. Or all silver with black nipples, etc. Not sure where this is going, but whatever they want, is what they will get.
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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
Smart call - let them choose the colors. Also, don't forget that Mike offers color options for the nipples too. Imagine electric blue rims with candy red nipples and polished silver hubs and spokes.

Wait, that's what I got.

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Hey Rad, got any pictures of them all done up? That sounds like a sweet combo.
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I think the Speedcific kit to change from Campy to Shimano (or vice versa) is like $20 if I recall correctly. You'd need to "redish" also.

As far as Velocity or Speedcific I have no idea which is better.
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Originally Posted by 53-11_alltheway
I think the Speedcific kit to change from Campy to Shimano (or vice versa) is like $20 if I recall correctly. You'd need to "redish" also.

As far as Velocity or Speedcific I have no idea which is better.
I believe you are right. My bill stated that it was $30 for the parts (including lock ring), installation and the redish then $20 shipping to ge tthe wheels back. $50 including shipping is a pretty d@mn good price to get the free hub swapped out if you ask me.
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FWIW, I just spoke to MG on the phone, he answered a ton of questions that I had, seems like a really knowledgable guy. I was trying to decide between the Velocity or DT's but was leaning towards the Velocitys. After talking to MG I think I'm going with the DT's.

For those of you who had MG build you wheels how long did it take you to get them?
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For what its worth, I just wanted to point out that velocities wheelsets are handmade as well. Most of them by the owner (and maybe his wife if I remember the story correctly) . Their warranty is lifetime, and they claim to have never turned down a warranty request.
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Originally Posted by DRLski
FWIW, I just spoke to MG on the phone, he answered a ton of questions that I had, seems like a really knowledgable guy. I was trying to decide between the Velocity or DT's but was leaning towards the Velocitys. After talking to MG I think I'm going with the DT's.

For those of you who had MG build you wheels how long did it take you to get them?
He will tell you how long it will take as it will depend on how busy he is. Last summmer he was way behind and there were shipping delays from DT on the 28 hole black rims. Because of all of that I think it took me a month to get my wheels. That siad, when I sent my wheels in to have the free hub changed and trued it took him less than a week to have them back on their way to me. If I had to guess I would say between 1-2 weeks from recipt of order to shipping but he will be able to tell you for sure if you call him back.
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I have never used MG wheels, and I actually haven't used arrowhead rims, however I have a pair of Velocity Spartacus wheels which of course have Velocity hubs. This was for my new bike that only has about 700 miles on them and there are absolutly no problems with any part of their wheels. They are smooth and true. Of course I Would expect that with any wheel set, but after 700 miles I have had no reason to even touch them for truing and the hubs are still nice and smooth.

I am very happy with my Velocity wheels, I even like the looks of the skewers.
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