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Argh!

DAMMIT!!! okay, for some reason I'm forbidden from riding on the road without an adult. I'm so annoyed. Can you help with some Ideas to get my parents trust to be able to ride on the road alone?
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Just tell them that your going down to the store to get some milk. Thats how i started then when they finaly find out they be like 'oh what the hay u can keep doing it' because they knew that i wasnt getting hurt and i was and i was able to look after myself.
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well the really annoying thing is they wont let me ride to school, which is about 1/2 a Km away.
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how old are you?
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Well how old are you anyway.

I find the question a little ironic actually. I was riding on the road alone probably from the age of 10 and in the second year of highschool I was doing a 8 km ride to school mostly on the road. By 15 I was doing some big miles on the road training. Now the ironic bit is if my parents knew how foolhardy I was they wouldn't have been impressed!

Times have changed as children had much more freedom years ago although the traffic wasn't as bad as now and there weren't so many crazy's about.

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well the really annoying thing is they wont let me ride to school, which is about 1/2 a Km away.
Well that is kind of a little over the top unless there's a lot of traffic on the way although I personally would walk a 1/2 km rather than getting a bike out. I suppose they won't let you walk either?

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lol no they wont let me walk, Im 13 and about 300 M is up a quiet little road then I have to cross another quiet little road then go downhill on a path for the rest.
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so how do you get to school, if you dont walk or ride? Dont tell me they drop you off.
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they drop me off. the truth is hard.
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I'm a parent. There are probably lots of reasons they seem over protective. When I was 13 my mother was over protective (I thought) and my kids probably thought the same thing about me and their mother. I think it only fair to hear their logic set before being too judgmental. There may very well be good reason to not allow you to ride your bike to school. I can tell you that no matter what their logic or reasons are, at 13 you are almost always going to feel they are wrong.
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Dear Pink_Ninja,
I can under stand your parents not letting you ride on the road.

Offer to them that you want to ride on the foot path.

I started making trips to the corner shop. This helped get there trust with me riding by myself. Then friends offered to come and ride with me to school. My mum and dad liked the idea of me ridding with other people.

I did the above for about 2-3 weeks. Then I asked the big question "Can I ride to school?" They agreed that I could ride by myself, if I don't ride on the road.

I agreed and havent looked back.

Try what I did.

But please, don't ride on the road.

Riding on the road is "Suicidal".

Take it from me, it is allot safer riding on the foot path. And it is allot funner riding with friends.

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Telling him/her that riding on the road is suicidal without knowing the road conditions, traffic and such, is jumping to conclusions. Foxy and Alex, I am sorry but you are a bit misguided here. This kid is 13 and his parents won't even let him/her WALK the 1/2Km to school!!! That is certainly being way too overprotective...and while I am noone to tell a parent how to raise their children, if they weren't going to let him/her ride, then why even let him/her have a bike in the first place. I like to think my parents were concerned about my safety too, but they bought me my first road bike at 10 and taught me the proper way to ride and be safe....then let me ride the roads (and this was 18 miles from NYC). I am sure the parents mean well but this is simply being overportective. My parents only drove me to school when I was 15 and had a broken ankle and coudn't ride or walk.

Pink_Ninja...good luck to you, I hope they come around.

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This kid is 13 and his parents won't even let him/her WALK the 1/2Km to school!!! That is certainly being way too overprotective...and while I am noone to tell a parent how to raise their children, if they weren't going to let him/her ride, then why even let him/her have a bike in the first place. Brian
Hey Brian I agree in theory and it certainly sounds, from what we know, like the parents might be being unreasonable. But there could be non disclosed and underlying circumstances that we do not know. For instance, this could be a really bad neighborhood or the parents could be using this restriction as punishment. Until we know all the circumstances we have to have faith that the parents are doing what is best for their child.

My best advice would be for Pink_Ninja to build a strong case for what he wants and present it with as much maturity as possible and be prepared for concessions.

I always took this approach with my children. When they would ask for something I would always immediately say "no". My initial answer was always "no" until they gave me all the details and justified their need or desire. They quickly learned that whining and going into an immature rage never served their cause but a logical more mature approach gained them credibility, trust and confidence enough to achieve a desired outcome most of the time.
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I had a bit of a defiant streak as a youth and did what I wanted to do anyway. You shouldn't necessarily follow my path. If you got to ride, you will figure out a way. The streets maybe extremely dangerous between your home and school so your parents may have a good point. I rarely ride on roads with a higher speed limit for good reason...safety. An expert cyclist was just run over and killed from this forum just a couple of months ago while doing all the right things...even on a dedicated bicycle path adjacent to a road...that I and others still haven't gotten over. The roads are extremely dangerous. If you must ride...still see if you can get a nice road bike and convince your parents you will walk the bike to a safe riding area like a local sub division with a 25mph speed limit. You don't have to ride to school. You don't want to leave a nice bike at school anyway..maybe a clunker but not your favorite bike.
You will figure out a way. As a sidebar...I was mechanically inclined when I was your age and built go karts and minibikes from scratch. I used to sneak my minibike which would do 50 mph out at night and terrorize local neighborhoods with my other buddies until one night we got caught by the cops (after successfully outrunning them to our secret hide out location on many previous nights) and I caught holy hell from my parents who were having their bridge club over the night the cops came to my front door. Funny in hindsight ...painful at the time as my Dad was a big guy if you know what I mean ...but still worth it.
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Hmmm, I have no idea on the circumstances behind this, there's not enough data, so I'll just share my personal experience.

When I was six, I saw a kid riding a bike at a company picnic in Boston. My dad asked to borrow the kid's bike, put me on it and held the seat. I had no idea when he let go, but I was out on my own. Wandered around the park and was so proud, I wanted to show my dad. So I turned around and headed back to where he was sitting. He was facing away and unfortunately, I had no idea how to slow down or stop and ran right into his back! I guess he wasn't amused and gave the kid his bike back. Later that day, I was messing around with a dog under the picnic table, pulling on his whiskers or something and he bit me! Thinking back, I should've bit him back!

So about a year later, we moved to Bren Mar, VA and my dad bought me a 20" kids bike! It was purple and looked really awesome! Made me wear a helmet this time. Again, he held the seat and aimed me down the hill and let go. I think I must've road around for 2-3 hours that day. I remember my dad telling me to stay on the sidewalk and out of the middle of the street. There was also a dirt path next to the street on the way to school, about 5km away. But I'd always walk to school with my girlfriend anyway (after getting a 2nd breakfast from her mom ). I distinctly remember having traction problems with the smooth ribbed tyres when I rode that bike to my piano lessons during the winter, knobbies would've been nice.

When we moved to San Jose, I was about 12 and my dad got me a 24" bike. He took me for a LONG ride, it must've been at least 15km. He showed me how to follow him on the side of the road away from traffic. Told me how to watch the lights and the crossing signs (told me to cross with the pedestrians, just don't run them over). Somehow I never rode that bike much, perhaps because the schoolbus would take me to school and I'd be too busy playing soccer after school to go play anywhere else.

So... I'm not gonna have any problems letting my kid ride anywhere. I'm just going to make sure I teach him how to be safe and deal with traffic and dogs. If I can't trust my kids, then that shows lack of responsibility on my part.

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Hey Brian I agree in theory and it certainly sounds, from what we know, like the parents might be being unreasonable. But there could be non disclosed and underlying circumstances that we do not know. For instance, this could be a really bad neighborhood or the parents could be using this restriction as punishment. Until we know all the circumstances we have to have faith that the parents are doing what is best for their child.

My best advice would be for Pink_Ninja to build a strong case for what he wants and present it with as much maturity as possible and be prepared for concessions.

I always took this approach with my children. When they would ask for something I would always immediately say "no". My initial answer was always "no" until they gave me all the details and justified their need or desire. They quickly learned that whining and going into an immature rage never served their cause but a logical more mature approach gained them credibility, trust and confidence enough to achieve a desired outcome most of the time.
You are, perhaps, quire right Phil...but I was only going on the information that was given and I could not just automatically assuime that the OP was omitting anything. If the situation is as is stated at face value, then I do stand by my opinion. There could very easily be another side to this story.

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Originally Posted by DannoXYZ
So... I'm not gonna have any problems letting my kid ride anywhere. I'm just going to make sure I teach him how to be safe and deal with traffic and dogs. If I can't trust my kids, then that shows lack of responsibility on my part.
I think this is a very important part of what is missing here. My parents taught me how to ride and ride safely, often riding their tandem with my brother and me falling in behind. I wonder if the OP's parents ride, from the gist of what I am getting, I would guess that they don't. I couldn't see any parents who were/are cyclists not letting their kid ride, even to school..

Just a thought.

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Originally Posted by baj32161
I think this is a very important part of what is missing here. My parents taught me how to ride and rode safely. I wonder if the OP's parents ride, from the gist of what I am getting, I would guess that they don't. I couldn't see any parents who were/are cyclists acting this way.

Just a thought.

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Maybe a good approach for Pink_Ninja is to get his parents to ride.

Funny but related:
My son is 23 now and I am 50. I have been road cycling for 6 years. He has always said I was crazy and foolish to get on the road with a bicycle. I finally got him interested in cycling and he doesn't say that anymore.
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Maybe a good approach for Pink_Ninja is to get his parents to ride.

Funny but related:
My son is 23 now and I am 50. I have been road cycling for 6 years. He has always said I was crazy and foolish to get on the road with a bicycle. I finally got him interested in cycling and he doesn't say that anymore.
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DAMMIT!!! okay, for some reason I'm forbidden from riding on the road without an adult. I'm so annoyed. Can you help with some Ideas to get my parents trust to be able to ride on the road alone?
I don't know but your signature line, while cool sounding, isn't exactly the kind of thing that might inspire confidence from parents.
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I don't know but your signature line, while cool sounding, isn't exactly the kind of thing that might inspire confidence from parents.
The adults in my life always called this "Growing Pains".
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My parent's were sick of driving me to school because it was out of their way...They asked me to take the bus or ride the bike, I took the bike.

It was a PITA, 10 miles on a crappy MTB. 20 miles round trip. I hate it at first as I would come in breathing hard, but after awhile I got used to it
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Without knowing more about you, the area you live in, and your parents actual concerns its hard to give advice.. But unless you have to travel a heavily trafficked road in a dangerous area it doesnt sound unreasonable for you to walk or ride your bike to school..I was turned loose on my bike back in the 50s at age 5, but that was the 50s.. Funny thing by order of the BOA we werent allowed to take our bikes to school.. So afterschool we would run home, change, grab our bikes and ride back to school to play on the school ballfields..
I let my son ride to school when he was about 12..We lived just short of a mile from his school at the time..What scared me was that he was an epileptic so I always wanted him to have company when he road his bike..Maybe you can recruit a friend to ride with you, it might allay your parents fears..

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They won't let you ride your bike on the road but they'll let you on the internet?
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I'm 18 and my mom still gives me the daily "be safe" speech.. so it'll be ok man.. just do it when they aren't at home or something haha
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