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Does anybody here choose trainer riding over winter group rides?

Old 01-08-06, 06:39 PM
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I can't take it anymore. Seems like the group I ride with has this mentality that you are supposed to ride slowly during the winter months. I understand the concept of base miles but it gets ridiculous when we start and stop, start and stop. We even had a guy stop the pace line for a pee break even though the next stop sign was only about 4 miles up the road. This frustrates the heck out of me so I stopped going and instead ride my trainer. This way I can keep my heart rate at a constant level and accomplish whatever goals I set for the ride. You lose fitness from the top down and I'll be dadgummed if I'll let all of last years training go down the tubes cause I was riding at a 15 mile an hour pace all winter long. Anybody else using the trainer? Yeah, they are tough but they work you if you work it. --Whitemax

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Old 01-08-06, 07:57 PM
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If I had those riders in my group, I'd ride indoors, for sure.
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I'd ride outside solo.
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++

(also I don't own a trainer which makes the choice pretty easy )
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anything under 50 degrees and im inside.
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Originally Posted by whitemax
I can't take it anymore. Seems like the group I ride with has this mentality that you are supposed to ride slowly during the winter months. I understand the concept of base miles but it gets ridiculous when we start and stop, start and stop. We even had a guy stop the pace line for a pee break even though the next stop sign was only about 4 miles up the road. This frustrates the heck out of me so I stopped going and instead ride my trainer. This way I can keep my heart rate at a constant level and accomplish whatever goals I set for the ride. You lose fitness from the top down and I'll be dadgummed if I'll let all of last years training go down the tubes cause I was riding at a 15 mile an hour pace all winter long. Anybody else using the trainer? Yeah, they are tough but they work you if you work it. --Whitemax
Do they pick it up later in the ride?

I was doing a regular group ride that was so slow for the first 20 miles that it was really frustrating (I couldn't get my HR over 100!). The next week I deliberately arrived and started about 10 minutes late, rode solo for 20 miles and caught the group just before they started to pick up the pace. I got a much better workout.

If your group does the same ride regularly and starts at the same time you might want to try this.
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Old 01-08-06, 09:44 PM
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Another group? Solo?

I ditched my usual riding partner today and went solo. It was nice for a change.

Anything is better than the trainer...

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My group ride starts out about 12-14 mph the first 6 miles or so as everyone gets warmed up, and they then drop the hammer. It used to bother me as I like to ride hard in the beginning to get things going, not slow. My solution? I started riding into town (13 miles) for the group ride rather than driving (the group ride starts at 7am). I can ride as hard as I want to get warmed up, then ride slow with them for a little while, then go fast again.
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What winter group rides**********?

I ride outside solo in winter .... very much like I do in the summer.
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Old 01-08-06, 10:20 PM
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Our winter rides are bit shorter and slower out here as well.

I solve the problem by riding my mountain bike. I run the Conti Town & Country's. If you are motivated you can run full knobbies. If you are really motivated and want to suffer, run knobbies at low pressure. You will get a workout.

I personally can't handle the riding indoor thing. Two one hour spin classes a week is all I can mentally handle.

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Originally Posted by DinoShepherd
Our winter rides are bit shorter and slower out here as well.

I solve the problem by riding my mountain bike. I run the Conti Town & Country's. If you are motivated you can run full knobbies. If you are really motivated and want to suffer, run knobbies at low pressure. You will get a workout.

I personally can't handle the riding indoor thing. Two one hour spin classes a week is all I can mentally handle.

-Z
Same here...I do spin classes...but riding the trainer in the house is pure misery. I'm taking the day off tommorow (my grandfather is ill and probably will only last another couple days...if that) I'm gonna go for a nice ride in the country regardless of the weather to clear my mind.
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J - Sorry about your grandfather. Prayers to you and yours. See you out there soon.

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I ride outside whenever possible, but I understand your frustrations with your group rides - I can't say I blame you for favoring your trainer in that circumstance.

Ride outside by yourself?
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Backpacks and panniers full of rocks.
Then the pace will be fine

I do 50k a day every day, outside, solo.
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Originally Posted by Machka
What winter group rides**********?

I ride outside solo in winter .... very much like I do in the summer.
Me too.

Group riding is about as structured and organized as a group forum.
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Ride the trainers, find a good group, ride solo outdoors and do some interval work then have that ride as a recovery ride! stop whinging and ride more. I ride in a group that tends to do the same thing but I restrain myself from simply riding away from them as I have it as a planned RECO ride. on ya bike.
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I don't race. Although serious for most, all group training rides are "fun" rides for me. The slower the group, the better....
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I try every year to put some miles on the trainer. But after one or two rides on the trainer I'm outside riding solo. I can get any kind of a workout I want. An MTB in the snow and ice in the winter is incredibly good training for road riding in the warm weather.
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Originally Posted by whitemax
I can't take it anymore. Seems like the group I ride with has this mentality that you are supposed to ride slowly during the winter months. I understand the concept of base miles but it gets ridiculous when we start and stop, start and stop. We even had a guy stop the pace line for a pee break even though the next stop sign was only about 4 miles up the road. This frustrates the heck out of me so I stopped going and instead ride my trainer. This way I can keep my heart rate at a constant level and accomplish whatever goals I set for the ride. You lose fitness from the top down and I'll be dadgummed if I'll let all of last years training go down the tubes cause I was riding at a 15 mile an hour pace all winter long. Anybody else using the trainer? Yeah, they are tough but they work you if you work it. --Whitemax
Whitemax, how many years have you trained? Keep your training at the same level of intensity this winter as you road all summer, and then check back with us next July and see how you're doing.
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Whitemax, sounds like you need to find a new group or just ride solo. Don't own or want a trainer so I'm outside whenever possible. Part of the reason I ride is to get my ass outside anyway...
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It really depends on the weather. Hammering in below freezing weather isn't really the best thing for lungs or joints. If you are blessed with warmer weather you should still probably slow down in the winter months so you don't burn out before the prime riding season hits. I don't like the cold much, so below 35 or 40 and I'm inside.
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I went out with a group like that a while back, first time just to try them out. The ride was billed as a fairly quick weekend morning 45 miler with one short convenience store stop, like an early out and back to get you home before church, work, football, whatever. It was billed as a drop ride with collections at intersections only, and a 17mph average. Looked fine with me for a winter training ride just to break up my solo/commute/trainer routine.

We ended up being out all morning and covered right at 42 miles. Everybody got back to the parking lot and were all smiles about completing the ride. I'm sitting there doing the math on a 4+ hour 42 mile deathmarch and just kicking myself for not riding solo.

Looking back, I'm still not sure how we managed to stay out that long. It's got to be some kind of a record. Either that or we rode into some kind of a frikkin time warp or worm hole along the way. What a beating.
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'Stop'? Who the hell 'stops' on group rides? In the friggin WINTER? So you can get the 'refrigerator effect'? F- that. Time for a new group.

I ride alone in the winter much of the time. The groups I ride with don't stop. Hell, you're lucky if they stop if you get a flat (and NEVER in the last 10-15 miles of the ride, you're on your own, it's every man for himself).

Trainers? Not a chance. I'd rather ride the Iditabike than ride a trainer. HATE them. But that's me. Just dislike indoor training more than riding in the cold. It gets to be a tough choice once it's 20º*or so - but above that I'm out the door. If it's raining or snowing I take a day off or hit the gym.
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I have a bit of an aversion to scheduled events. I have a much more casual approach. Particularly on weekends, I tend to lounge a bit, drink coffee, read a paper, etc and just drift on out the door for a long ride.
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