iamtim

While cycle17's language might not be my cup of tea, I agree with his message. Some people don't want to be pro riders, some don't even want to race, and some enjoy wearing the full team kits. It is complete and total elitist effrontery to look down upon those who wear them because they enjoy it. I'll put money on it that Rod Carew never looked down at any of the kids playing ball in the park wearing an Angels jersey, that's for sure.

That said, *I* don't wear full team kits. I don't want to look like a billboard; I wear plain jerseys.

Now on the other hand, I don't think I'd be happy with a bunch of Team Discovery labeled bikes that I bought for my non Team Discovery team to race on; that does seem cheesy. I don't know if I'd go with tape or a different sticker, however; if I was spending that much money, you can bet I'd be back on the phone with Trek though.

Tim.

jimbud

Never use a hair blow dryer or heat gun to remove a decal under clearcoat. That would be bad.

Grasschopper

OMG what are you going to ride for the next 2 years if all of your bikes are being painted?

Sorry I had to go there.

EURO

Me. Lots of other people.

iamtim

As I was reading the post above after it posted, I noticed my avatar. That's a picture of a 14 year-old me on one of my first BMX races out at the old ABA Yorba Linda Coal Canyon track. I fondly remembered the Torker 280X that I was racing on, and then noticed I was wearing a Torker jersey.

That got me to thinking. Never once did I get looked down upon or accused of being a poser because I was wearing a Torker jersey but didn't race for factory Torker. It was the same for all the other racers who wore jerseys matching the bike they rode or their favorite bike shop (I wore a Competition Plus jersey for months before they officially sponsored me).

So I don't know where it all comes from, this "team kit" snobbery. I certainly think it's silly.

DocRay

I would show a Discovery channel sticker if Discovery channel decided to actually broadcast bike shows or races-how many chopper shows does this world need?

Mo'Phat

2 shows: Biker Build-off and American Chopper. Both are entertaining and educational to the garage tinkering set.

Every once in a while they'll do Motorcycle Mania with West Coast Choppers' Jesse James, but that's not a series.

Discovery Channel is not a sports channel. Don't expect any cycling races on there. Only thing you may find are the Chasing Lance episodes.

/but that's neither here nor there.

DocRay

American Chopper is educational? how to scream at people incoherently? how to sell low-tech, poorly made motorcycles for 60 grand?

Show us how Trek makes TDF bikes-that's educational.

Mo'Phat

Sure it's educational. Even the "incoherent screaming" is educational. The Family Dysfunction angle of that particular show is highly enlightening, since people have the capacity to learn how to NOT do certain things.

- see, I just learned how not to contribute to a thread.

ps. Trek has shown their construction processes in the aforementioned Chasing Lance series. Shown on both OLN, The Travel Channel, and Discovery this past year.

DocRay

Lancerbation is not bike racing. If they show anyone else, I'd be impressed.

Mo'Phat

Again...I never said it was racing, and you'll probably never see a race on Discovery, it's not the MO of their programming.

R900

+1, hard to believe people make such a big deal about it.

John

AngryRooster

Well, so what?

climbo

+2

kingsfan4life

+1
people shouldn't care what other people think about them, just go out and ride

Bontrager

You guys are good enough to ride one of their best bikes but too good for them to let everyone else know you ride their bikes?

Warblade

Since it is a Cat 1/2 team I totally agree with the covering up of the logo's. But if it were my personel bike for just joy-riding I don't think I would worry about it.

askrom

Usually I wear an old-ass green wool jersey that makes me look like right out of the 70's. I also wear team jerseys, but only for teams that are at least a decade out of existence. Currently have La Vie Claire and 7-Eleven. It helps show my age, plus those are the teams I admired most when I first started serious cycling. When I was 17 I rocked La Vie Claire everywhere I rode and wasn't ashamed at all, generally because I almost always dusted people while wearing it! ... but today I usually laugh at riders with Discovery jerseys. Why am I not a hypocrite? Well, mostly because the Discovery jerseys are IMHO pretty darn ugly, lacking really any design sense at all (it's just a pile of logos and generic logolike forms), while the La Vie Claire's jerseys were stiking looking, untraditional, and tastefully designed (maybe a little swishy, but that's cool!).

I see it this way: If you wear a team kit (or, worse, any type of yellow-colored jersey), that's totally your right and I do not begrudge it. But when I pass you on the road, I'm totally going to feel a little extra jolt of smugness.

danch

Duct tape. Electical tape would fall off way too easy.

danch

They're covering the Disco sticker. Discovery doesn't make the bikes. If Discovery sponsored them, I'm sure they'd be happy to run the stickers.

macca123

Leave the stickers if you want. Tape over the stickers if you want, who gives a flying hoot. Either way If you are winning the race they wont look at you differently sticker or no sticker and If you are the guy who gets dropped or causes a crash you will like a tool with or without the sticker! As to other people wearing full team kits we have two of them in our club so before you look down on them realise that they are actually in the team getting paid to race!

I have seen just as many poseur fat arse cyclists wearing there albury-wodonga cycle tops as guys wearing there full pro gear. Everyone to there own I say.

What it all comes down to in this game is how fast you can ride your bike which is a fact most people on this forum ignore in favour of crying about new equiptment this, poseur that, omg he didn't wave at me BS.

pseudobrit

Also hard to believe people make such a big deal about people making a big deal about it.

Let 'em *****. If you truly don't care, they won't bother you.

bluecd

only to discover? when you go to their website and look at the picture the discovery sticker is right there in plain view on the seat post. you ordered the "team" paint scheme. what did you think "team" meant? if you like the paint but not the sticker then sure cover it but dont use duct tape. a designed sticker with your team logo would look good.

SF Biker

That what Trek's Project One is for: Getting the exact color scheme with or without any stickers.

I wonder if the OP's team got the Team paint for less than what they would have paid for the andromeda color?

If they paid full pop then that is a major screw up.

EventServices

We got a special deal through Trek (not Project One), and the first ones that they shipped came without the Disco stickers. So we all agreed to go with the blue-silver.

Our main concern is not about looking like a kid wearing a Brett Favre jersey; it's about giving our own sponsors the exposure that they're paying for, as well as looking like a uniform team. That's how it works.

That said, Trek is a secondary sponsor for us, so our first call will be to them to see if we have permission to cover the Disco logos in the first place.