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I need to move to sanfran. (video)

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Old 01-10-06, 10:28 PM
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I need to move to sanfran. (video)

http://www.russianhillroulette.com/

Some of those climbs are nuts...
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Old 01-10-06, 10:46 PM
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Mmmm Hills.
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Old 01-10-06, 10:52 PM
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That's great. Thanks for sharing.

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The thing I LOVE about San Fran is that their hills are SUPER steep, but they're short so you not completely dead after each one.
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The hills around my house are just big enough to get me winded by the top, but small enough to keep me going. The Russian Hill area is frickin nuts though. That used to be the area where only the ultra-rich lived, before cars existed. They were the only people who could live there, as they needed a team of horses to pull their carriages up the hills. Now they have Bentleys and Mercedes' to haul their butts up and down. Nice lookin houses and mansions there.
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Old 01-11-06, 09:47 AM
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That was about as good a short film as I've seen.

The bike culture in San Francisco is pretty unique. Right now the idiots are REALLY hot on fixed gear or single speed bikes. That's probably a really bad idea in a town where 20% plus grades are as common as bad paving.

Nothing gives you the feeling of superiority as riding up one of these hills and having the gears slip into a 42-19 and STILL make it to the top. Man I'm sure glad that friction shifting is long gone.
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Originally Posted by cyclintom
That was about as good a short film as I've seen.

The bike culture in San Francisco is pretty unique. Right now the idiots are REALLY hot on fixed gear or single speed bikes. That's probably a really bad idea in a town where 20% plus grades are as common as bad paving.

Nothing gives you the feeling of superiority as riding up one of these hills and having the gears slip into a 42-19 and STILL make it to the top. Man I'm sure glad that friction shifting is long gone.
Why are they idiots? Those idiots have a lot more talent and skills than anyone wearing lycra. I think its pretty damn cool watching them track stand at a lights with a -17% grade waiting ahead of them.
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Those idiots have a lot more talent and skills than anyone wearing lycra
hmmmm...
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Yep, fixed gear bikes are the fashion in San Francisco right now. The only "idiots" I see on these bikes are the ones who don't respect the bike or anyone around them and refuse to stop for stop signs, traffic lights, etc. Those men (and lots of women too!) who ride these bikes safely and respectfully of other people are my heroes. I'll stick to gears and brakes for now though as I live on top of a hill.
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That's a great video, but I think that one of my favorite hills could make the list.
10th Avenue between Quintara and Mendosa.
It seems like the steepest street I've ever ridden in SF, but maybe it's because it's at the end of a mile long climb (starting from 10th at Judah). I'll try to find out the grade.

edit - According to Gmaps ped the last block of my climb is 30.3%, so it would be third on the list.

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So are you saying you always stop at every stop sign and light within the city?
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that's a great video, thanks for sharing.

anyone have video of the pro riders on the hills of San Francisco?
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Yep I practice safe biking and often VC. Blowing through stop signs and red lights is a death sentence...make a rolling stop while clipped in, that's not great but seems a norm, speed up to blow through an intersection, that's dumb.
I'm lucky not to get hit by a car even when obeying traffic laws. Traffic in this city is just dangerous. There is always some yahoo pedalling through a red light while I'm waiting at the crosswalk...if one of these people gets hit by a car, they deserve the pain received from the hit, I have no sympathy for people who run red lights.
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Hooray for hills! i'm moving into an apartment in the SOMA area in May, guess i better spend some more time in new jersey so i can try and build up my legs, Manhattan is a pancake!
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Hooray for hills! i'm moving into an apartment in the SOMA area in May, guess i better spend some more time in new jersey so i can try and build up my legs, Manhattan is a pancake!
The highest point in SF is Twin Peaks at around 900 ft.
The big climbs are out of town. Mt. Tamalpias at 2,500 ft, Mt. Diablo at 3,800 ft, and Mt. Hamilton at 4,200 ft.
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Originally Posted by cyclintom
That was about as good a short film as I've seen.

The bike culture in San Francisco is pretty unique. Right now the idiots are REALLY hot on fixed gear or single speed bikes. That's probably a really bad idea in a town where 20% plus grades are as common as bad paving.

Nothing gives you the feeling of superiority as riding up one of these hills and having the gears slip into a 42-19 and STILL make it to the top. Man I'm sure glad that friction shifting is long gone.
Looks at bike, looks at post, looks at bike... long gone huh? If you say so.

(And I though a 9% was like looking at a wall - suppose it is here in N. Texas)
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The bike culture in San Francisco is pretty unique. Right now the idiots are REALLY hot on fixed gear or single speed bikes. That's probably a really bad idea in a town where 20% plus grades are as common as bad paving.
Your post made me really think about and appreciate fixed gear bikes for the first time.

I think many of the cyclists riding the fixed gear bikes are young and don't have a lot of money to spend on high end bikes. You may be biking to stay fit and or have fun, many of them use bikes for their primary source of transportation and have to leave them locked up on the street. I wouldn't leave a nice road bike locked to a parking meter. If you ride your bike every day in most conditions, it would be good to have a mechanically simple, easy to maintain, and lower cost bike, that is also probably fun to ride.

BTW, almost all of the hills in the video have "easier" ways to get to the top.
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Yeah, but some of the easier paths require a few mile detour...
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Old 01-11-06, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by caboater
Your post made me really think about and appreciate fixed gear bikes for the first time.

I think many of the cyclists riding the fixed gear bikes are young and don't have a lot of money to spend on high end bikes. You may be biking to stay fit and or have fun, many of them use bikes for their primary source of transportation and have to leave them locked up on the street. I wouldn't leave a nice road bike locked to a parking meter. If you ride your bike every day in most conditions, it would be good to have a mechanically simple, easy to maintain, and lower cost bike, that is also probably fun to ride.

BTW, almost all of the hills in the video have "easier" ways to get to the top.
Hmm, hills and fixed gears mean that these young people will not be able to ride bikes in another 10 years because of knee damage. One older guy I talked to said that he belonged to a club that rode fixed gears in a fairly flat area with just rolling hills. He said that he went through the club scrapbook and realized that over half of the people in that club couldn't ride a bike anymore because of knee problems.

As for "high end bikes" - at the San Francisco bicycle swap meet a couple of months ago the 'parking lot' was filled with VERY high end fixed gear bikes. For the cost of a Colnago track bike with those very rare Cinelli steel track bars and carbon fiber tubular track wheels, Campy track cranks and chain and a front Campy road brake with special pads you could buy a REALLY nice standard road bike with good components.

Inside, the track components which would normally have been selling cheap, were fetching premium prices well above standard road components. I should have had my Gitane track bike there and I could have sold it for double what I had into it.
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Originally Posted by thebankman
I'm lucky not to get hit by a car even when obeying traffic laws. Traffic in this city is just dangerous.
Not to pick a fight, but obeying the traffic laws and being safe have not much to do with each other most of the time. Biking in the middle of the lane after a blind turn where cars usually go at 50mph might be legal (dunno if it is), and blowing a red at midnight in an empty suburb might not, but I'll rather do the second than the first.
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