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Steel Bikes
I plan to get a new bike this year. Previously I rode a Lemond 853 steel framed bike. I liked the feel of the bike but it didn't fit me to well. I'm now riding a Giant TCR aluminum frame. Fits fine but I'm not crazy about the feel. I would like to get another steel framed bike but don't know who makes a reasonably priced, high quality frame. I'm not a complete weight weenie but it's still an issue.
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I just bought a Mercier from bikesdirect. It's all 853 steel, 18.5 lbs, all Ultegra, and has Ritchey wheels.
$1295, no tax, free shipping.
Motobecane also has a steel bike. It's called Legacy. It's roughly the same price range.
It is hard to find good steel bikes, none of the bike shops in my area carry them. Lemonds are very nice, but they don't have an all steel bike for '06 do they?
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$1295, no tax, free shipping.
Motobecane also has a steel bike. It's called Legacy. It's roughly the same price range.
It is hard to find good steel bikes, none of the bike shops in my area carry them. Lemonds are very nice, but they don't have an all steel bike for '06 do they?
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Also check out Jamis bikes - they have a lot of steel options and make really nice bikes.
https://www.jamisbikes.com/
https://www.jamisbikes.com/
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I'm with you about 853. Something magic about it. If you want a US-made bike, you could look at an 89-200x Lemond Zurich or BA, date depending on if a quill stem is Ok. Don't know about your fit issues but mine were addressed by changing stems and seatposts on both their 59c and 61c sizes. I've got nothing against lugs but to me, a welded 853-Lemond is about the cleanest-looking machine there is
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Take a look at www.gvhbikes.com
There are plenty of nice steel framesets for sale there.
There are plenty of nice steel framesets for sale there.
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Take a look at the Bianchi Veloce. I have a 2003 version. Smooth steel ride and fast, too. Not too expensive. Here's a link:
https://www.bianchiusa.com/06_veloce.html
https://www.bianchiusa.com/06_veloce.html
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There are lots of good even great steel bikes. Mercian from England. Viner from Italy. Rivendell Atlantis is a beautiful bike. You don't have to settle for aluminum when you can have a beautiful and wonderful lugged steel beauty.
There are also tons of good used steel bikes on eBay. You can get a great used steelie on eBay with Ultegra or Campy Chorus for less than $800 this time of year.
I would shy away from the Merciers and Motobecanes - these are not from the original famous companies. Someone bought the names and imports generic bikes from Asia with the names. Who knows who makes these steel frames. I'm not sure if they are lugged or just welded. I would think they are just welded steel frames - much different than a true work-of-art steel lugged brazed frame. That being said, even the Lemonds are welded not lugged but I think they were at least made in the USA (the oldewr steel models). And I, too had a Lemond steelie and I must say it was a great bike. I'd buy a used older Zurich, BA, or MJ at a good price any day!!!
Here's pics of my new steel baby.
There are also tons of good used steel bikes on eBay. You can get a great used steelie on eBay with Ultegra or Campy Chorus for less than $800 this time of year.
I would shy away from the Merciers and Motobecanes - these are not from the original famous companies. Someone bought the names and imports generic bikes from Asia with the names. Who knows who makes these steel frames. I'm not sure if they are lugged or just welded. I would think they are just welded steel frames - much different than a true work-of-art steel lugged brazed frame. That being said, even the Lemonds are welded not lugged but I think they were at least made in the USA (the oldewr steel models). And I, too had a Lemond steelie and I must say it was a great bike. I'd buy a used older Zurich, BA, or MJ at a good price any day!!!
Here's pics of my new steel baby.
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Go to your LBS and see what they have. It's possible they'll show you a sweet looking frame from a small individual frame builder. If the frame is overstock from a previous model year, they should make you an offer you can't refuse.
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Originally Posted by markwebb
Who knows who makes these steel frames. I'm not sure if they are lugged or just welded. I would think they are just welded steel frames - much different than a true work-of-art steel lugged brazed frame.
853 is pretty amazing stuff.
I'm not saying that those old frames are not beautiful or strong, I'm just saying that times have changed. I just bought a Mercier, and while it is obviously not hand made and sports no beautiful lugs, it is a very lightweight and strong modern steel frame for an affordable price.
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Or you can buy a used vintage steel bike. I got my Centurion Ironman Back in November on ebay for $175. It is a fantastic bike, Shimano 600 (Ultegra's predecessor) group in great condition. It weighed 22.5 upon delivery and if I were to put some newer, lighter wheels, bars, stem, and seatpost on it it could probably get it below 20 pretty easily. I think it is Reynolds 531 which I think is great, not as nice as 853, but not bad. Just a thought...good luck!!
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Those Mercians look cool. I was bouncing around the web and found the Serotta web site. They have a bike called the Couer d'Acier that looks very nice. And the price while high for a steel frame is not totally outrageous.
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LeMond still offers all steel bikes - check out the "Classics" section of their site.
You might like a Zurich - steel and carbon. I moved from a AL bike and love mine.
Smooooooth.
You might like a Zurich - steel and carbon. I moved from a AL bike and love mine.
Smooooooth.
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Orbea still has a steel bike. The Spirit and Spirit Carbon (the latter with carbon seatstays). I've got an Ultrafoco Carbon and love it.
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Originally Posted by ImprezaDrvr
Orbea still has a steel bike. The Spirit and Spirit Carbon (the latter with carbon seatstays). I've got an Ultrafoco Carbon and love it.
My lbs has a guerciotti (I know I destroyed that spelling) ultrafoco/carbon frame for like $1200....so tempting...
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What's reasonably priced?_____?
This is a NiTi (nickle\titanium\chromolly) steel frame.
I don't have\ride his road bikes, am in awe of my mtb frame he welded.
If flush and shopping a new road bike, I'd likely go with what has already impressed me.
https://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?p...ajor=1&minor=1
5.1 pounds for frame and fork, $698.88 US.
For you that might be a Lemond 853 steel, one that fits.?
This is a NiTi (nickle\titanium\chromolly) steel frame.
I don't have\ride his road bikes, am in awe of my mtb frame he welded.
If flush and shopping a new road bike, I'd likely go with what has already impressed me.
https://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?p...ajor=1&minor=1
5.1 pounds for frame and fork, $698.88 US.
For you that might be a Lemond 853 steel, one that fits.?
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I would second the Ritchey. I have a roadlogic...I like the new breakaway!
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I bought both of my Waterfords on ebay. My RSE-11 was a frameset only and cost approx $1200 to piece together over 18 month. The 1200 was a complete Chorus 8 speed bike with 2 wheelsets and 7 extras cassettes. I had the frame repainted and built it with Daytona 10 speed for about $1600. I still have all the Chorus 8 speed parts and wheelset waiting another frame for a super cheap build.
Both of these bikes are Reynolds, RSE is 531 and the 1200 is 753. The 1200 is the lightest steel frame I've ever had. Good luck and be patient.
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Both of these bikes are Reynolds, RSE is 531 and the 1200 is 753. The 1200 is the lightest steel frame I've ever had. Good luck and be patient.
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steel is for poo pushers, I say go for it if you are into that kind of stuff but you aren't welcome at my house! by the look of your name "girlyman" steel will suit you fine.
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FFS will you give it a bloody rest?!?!
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here's a few recent threads discussing affordable steel frames
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ighlight=steel
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ighlight=steel
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ighlight=steel
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ighlight=steel (mark II )
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ighlight=steel
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ighlight=steel
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ighlight=steel
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ighlight=steel
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ighlight=steel
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ighlight=steel (mark II )
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ighlight=steel
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ighlight=steel
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That Orbea Spirit frame looks so nice. $1099. Columbus Spirit tubing is some very light steel.
Heron makes affordable steel frames. $995 Well, Waterford makes them for Heron.
Surly makes steel frames, check out the Pacer or Cross Check frames.
Trek makes a steel frame touring bike. $1239
Heron makes affordable steel frames. $995 Well, Waterford makes them for Heron.
Surly makes steel frames, check out the Pacer or Cross Check frames.
Trek makes a steel frame touring bike. $1239
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Originally Posted by Az B
Lugs are a thing of the past with 853. It's a new steel that is designed to be stronger when welded. This was not true of the older steel and Cro Mo frames of yesteryear. They needed the lugs to help strengthen thier weakest part of the frame.
853 is pretty amazing stuff.
I'm not saying that those old frames are not beautiful or strong, I'm just saying that times have changed. I just bought a Mercier, and while it is obviously not hand made and sports no beautiful lugs, it is a very lightweight and strong modern steel frame for an affordable price.
Az
853 is pretty amazing stuff.
I'm not saying that those old frames are not beautiful or strong, I'm just saying that times have changed. I just bought a Mercier, and while it is obviously not hand made and sports no beautiful lugs, it is a very lightweight and strong modern steel frame for an affordable price.
Az