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Old 01-25-06, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by el diablo
Well my Garmin arrived last night, along with a fever of 102, a cough & a sore throat. Even though I did not ride on this sunny and 75 degree day I did install my new Garmin 305. Here is what I can tell you so far. The unit itself is sweet with tons of display options, etc. The cadence sensor is a little oversized in my opinion, and there is no way i will be able to use the backup speed sensor due to lack of clearance between the rear chain stay and my wheel. Even the thinnest magnet would rub the sensor arm. Other than that there is not much else to say. Setup is easy and programming is as well. It is not much different than the forerunner 301, it is just more bike specific. I will report back when I take it for a spin.
When I have a cold I ride, even in the winter. Which might be a bit different here than in Tampa : ).
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can't you just twist the speed sensor to the top or bottom of the chainstay instead of the inside? I had a similar problem when installing my last bike computer... if I had the sensor on the inside it hit the spokes but if I twist it so it's vertical above the tube, then it's still close enough to the magnet to work but isn't impeding on the spokes, etc.

Maybe I'm not visualing your problem correctly though.

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You can't fit a spoke magnet on your rear wheel? All the spokes go in from the hub right? I simply can't imagine the chain stay shape that would go in so fast from the drop outs that a spoke magnet wouldn't fit. This may sound stupid but are you sure your wheel is centered?
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Sorry, wrong post.
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Try putting the magnet on the spoke on the other side of your wheel (not the spoke right next to the sensor). Chances are, it will still work as long as you have room for the little arm to fit between your chainstay and wheel.
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Originally Posted by el diablo
The cadence sensor is a little oversized in my opinion, and there is no way i will be able to use the backup speed sensor due to lack of clearance between the rear chain stay and my wheel. Even the thinnest magnet would rub the sensor arm.
The manual says you can mount the wheel magnet facing inside the spoke if there isn't clearance to face it out. Would that fit for you?
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Originally Posted by patentcad
It is a fitting testament to the Weenie Factor that this dopey, oversized and overpriced GPS bike computer has generated four THOUSAND visits on this thread and SIX PAGES of back and forth.

And nobody has one yet. Amazing.
Of course people have one. There you go again with your negativity. I guess if I was 50 years old and rode a lame Cannondale I'd be negative also. BTW, no one cares if you ride when you have a cold. Please find some friends and post only relevant information from now one. Thanks.
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I recieved mine today.

I bought the HR bundle from http://www.thegpsstore.com/. I spoke with them at like 11am PST on Tuesday, they had it in stock, and shipped my order same day for next day arival (for an extra charge of course). I bought the candence kit from www.pcconnection.com, they only had the sensor in stock but they have an amazing logistics system where they I can usually order stuff up until midnight PST and have it by 8am.

The cadence kit arrived very poorly packed but everything was in there and working.

I haven't installed it on the bike, but a few pleasant surprises. The unit charges via a mini USB cable (so you can your laptop to charge the unit or the provided charger; I far prefer this industry standard to custom AC adaptors to each product I own). You can turn off the GPS and just use the speed/cadence/HR sensors (for indoor using on a trainer). As has been previously mentioned, the speed and cadence sensors are a single unit that mounts to a chain stay on the rear wheel (so again, you get speed and cadence on an indoor trainer).
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So, if you don't plan on using this on a trainer and only riding outdoors, you don't need the optional speed sensor kit to get a speed reading? That part has been confusing me. I've been wondering why the gps wouldn't give you speed readings.
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Ok, you guys drove me to it. Amazon lists the HR unit for $350, but a secondary seller had one listed for $330, so like $335 shipped. I also order the Cadence sensor with free shipping for $45. So hopefully if they were in stock I'll be getting everything sometime next week.

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Originally Posted by khan
So, if you don't plan on using this on a trainer and only riding outdoors, you don't need the optional speed sensor kit to get a speed reading?
Exactly right. If you aren't going to be using it indoors... you don't need the speed sensor at all. In fact by default, the computer will ONLY use the speed sensor if it has a very weak or no GPS signal.

Of course, if you want candence, the speed and candence sensors are a single unit (just with 2 magnets), so you might as well install the rear wheel spoke magnet. That way when you ride through a tunnel and temporarily lose GPS signal, you'll still have accurate speed and distance data.

Just an update on my unit since I have now installed it (and done a quick spin on the trainer). The battery in the cadence sensor was installed upsidedown at the factory. Luckily I had read about the problem in this thread so I just poped open the batter compartment, flipped over the battery and it worked great.

Everything fit great on my bike, the all wireless set up made it very easy/clean, and the ability to completely customize the data displayed on the computer is awesome. It was trivial to set up a single view with time, distance, speed, cadence, HR, and Cal burned for my indoor training rides.
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Old 01-25-06, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Grasschopper
You can't fit a spoke magnet on your rear wheel? All the spokes go in from the hub right? I simply can't imagine the chain stay shape that would go in so fast from the drop outs that a spoke magnet wouldn't fit. This may sound stupid but are you sure your wheel is centered?

The magnet obviously fits on the rear wheel and it would have plenty of clearance from the chainstay, it is the arm on the cadence sensor that is causing the problem. With no magnet on the rear wheel the "arm" is barely clear of the spokes.
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Originally Posted by kscycle
Try putting the magnet on the spoke on the other side of your wheel (not the spoke right next to the sensor). Chances are, it will still work as long as you have room for the little arm to fit between your chainstay and wheel.
Good idea. I am sure that would work. Its amazing sometimes when you are trying to solve a "problem" that the easiest and most obvious solution never seems to come to mind.
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Originally Posted by vbclown
I haven't installed it on the bike, but a few pleasant surprises. The unit charges via a mini USB cable (so you can your laptop to charge the unit or the provided charger; I far prefer this industry standard to custom AC adaptors to each product I own).
My 205 (and I suspect your 305 as well) came with both the USB cable and an independent charging cable. Consequently, you can charge in two ways: 1) by plugging into PC via USB; or 2) plugging into a wall outlet.

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Originally Posted by el diablo
The magnet obviously fits on the rear wheel and it would have plenty of clearance from the chainstay, it is the arm on the cadence sensor that is causing the problem. With no magnet on the rear wheel the "arm" is barely clear of the spokes.
Ahh that makes much more sense. It was my understanding that the arm pivots so that you can adjust this clearance...is tha tnot the case?
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I just ordered one... $300 for Edge 305cad and HRM add-on... shipped. They say they don't have it in stock yet but I can wait to be sure I get a good deal... I can't do much outside riding around here yet anyways. They also say they don't charge your card until it ships which is important. I had preordered from megagps.com a few months back for $241 (HRM unit only) but ended up cancelling when I heard they delayed the release from November to January... megagps.com billed my card immediately so I didn't want that money sitting on there for 3 more months.

Hopefully I'll have it soon.

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Called GPS Marketplace on Monday and they had sold out on all HR and Cad, guy who runs the site "Josh" said call back Tuesday. Phoned Tuesday and sure nuff they had the HR in stock, placed order and they said I would have a tracking order by Wed afternoon and again true to there word. Shows delivering today, they have back ordered the Cadance accessory for me and should have it next week.

Good shot for anyone still looking.
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DamnRock: who did you order with? 300 sounds like a good deal.

Oh and they use a speed sensor both for the trainer, and in the cases where some signal or all signal is lost. If you go under heavy leaf cover, under a building, or any other spot where some or all of the sky is blocked, you may lose lock on one or more satellites. Each sat lost will reduce the accuracy of the gps. While 5-10 meters might not matter that much in tracking your route, it can make your speed look way wrong, it will also help the unit correct for that 5-10meter drift, since you could only have gone so far with that speed.

They also include speed sensors for the car units. This way they can tell when you should be coming out of tunnels etc.

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I went through planetgps.com... not many but some good reviews on resellerratings.com and their site looks professional. They apply a $101 instant rebate to the 305Cad then I added the HRM unit then + shipping got it to $301 total. Best price I've found so far.

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If you call getfeetwet.com and ask for one, they will email you a discount code to enter as a 'reseller' purchase at checkout and the HR/CAD Bundle is $300. The code I posted earlier is obviously a one use code as it only worked for me. I don't know if they currently have any more in stock however.

My bundle should be here in a couple of hours.
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Just spoke to megagps.com about my Edge bundle preorder, and they are now saying they won't receive any until the end of next week... argh! When I mentioned that other sites seemed to be shipping them already, they claimed that only the Edge HR units and the cadence add-ons are out right now. No EdgeCADs or full bundles. For some reason, that's the holdup from Garmin (or so they are claiming).

Yet, a few mins. later, I happen to find someone on eBay selling the 305 bundle for $341, including shipping. A few emails back and forth to confirm that the seller does in fact have it in stock, (they are a power seller with 99.9% positive feedback), and foom, I am buying it now. It should go out in today's mail, according to the seller. Once I have it in my hot little hands, I will cancel the megagps order and post a full report after I've taken it for a test ride.

Or at least, that is my plan...
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My bundle finally showed up. Got it charging and I'll try my luck with mounting the cadence sensor tonight.
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Originally Posted by Sooner Rider
I ordered my Edge 305 Bundle from fotoconnection.com on 1/3/2006. Their Web site says that the Edge 305 Bundle is in stock, but my order page indicates "Processing." I was told in a phone call Friday afternoon 1/20/2006 that they are expecting 50 units on Wednesday 1/25/2006, and that I am number 35 on the waiting list. We'll see...I don't see any better options for now.
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Yep, I was duped. They informed me today that the units are on backorder and not expected for another two weeks. I asked about being number 35 in the shipment of 50 due yesterday, and the reply was, "Who told you that?" Wrong reply.
It's not just on a GPS order, this seems so typical in retail commerce today. Everything is over-promised and under-delivered, and no-one is ever accountable ("Who told you that?").
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Unit arrived today and looks great, takes a bit to charge so not doing much playing with it yet. But a dumb observation, the handlebar mount that comes with the unit. I was pleased to see there were two included, (nice bonus). And they included 4 zip ties.. on the mount, zipped closed 60%. Do you think Garmin realizes once you zip em closed you cannot get them off? If your expecting a unit, and you don't have zip ties be sure to pick up a couple, cause your going to have to cut off the ones that came with it to install.
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Originally Posted by Stjtoday
Unit arrived today and looks great, takes a bit to charge so not doing much playing with it yet. But a dumb observation, the handlebar mount that comes with the unit. I was pleased to see there were two included, (nice bonus). And they included 4 zip ties.. on the mount, zipped closed 60%. Do you think Garmin realizes once you zip em closed you cannot get them off? If your expecting a unit, and you don't have zip ties be sure to pick up a couple, cause your going to have to cut off the ones that came with it to install.
Granted, it's stupid of them to cinch down the zip ties, but in a pinch they can be released. You need something like a straight pin or maybe a sharp toothpick. If you look at the square end of the tie, there is an angled piece of plastic that engages the sawtooth pattern along the length of the tie. Just insert the pin from the inside and disengage it from the sawtooth... then you should be able to pull the tie open. It's easier to cut them, though, if you have spares.
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