Bode Miller's comments - does it bother us cyclists?
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Bode Miller is a moron. And he may regret his lack of focus and cavalier attitude about Torino when he's a 35 year old widely known as 'Bode WHO?'.
The most difficult part of this to handle is the fact that this idiot is making MILLIONS (reportedly $5 million annually from current endorsement deals) for being a dickhead just because he wins ski races. But not the BIG ones I suppose. He was too hung over for that. Oh well.
Maybe Nike will think twice about giving a lunkhead like Bode a website like 'joinbode.com' when the only thing Bode wants to join is the boys doing shots @ the bar - the night before his big Super GS Race.
And people give LANCE ****? That's mind blowing to me.
The most difficult part of this to handle is the fact that this idiot is making MILLIONS (reportedly $5 million annually from current endorsement deals) for being a dickhead just because he wins ski races. But not the BIG ones I suppose. He was too hung over for that. Oh well.
Maybe Nike will think twice about giving a lunkhead like Bode a website like 'joinbode.com' when the only thing Bode wants to join is the boys doing shots @ the bar - the night before his big Super GS Race.
And people give LANCE ****? That's mind blowing to me.
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I'd just like to ask Barry Bonds what kind of exercise machine it is that makes your head bigger.
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Miller's comments really pissed me off. I watched him during the Olympics just to see him fail. Schadenfreude!
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Originally Posted by kraftwerk
Bode's got a style all his own, the real problem you are having with him is the contradiction and frustration of seeing an athleate who speaks his mind, doesn't give a rats ass what you think and is not groomed for the media. To me that is a breath of fresh air. You have perhaps become overly acoustomed to the calm collected athleate who has good character for product endorsment. Give me Ali any day.
Old Bode is probably not too disapointed in his performance at Torino you shouldn't be either. We will remember his name long after that French guy who won silver when Bode tied for 6th. The crappy US coverage didn't even mention the French guy either for chrissakes!
On the other hand, Lance is a god we all know that... you can't touch him.
Old Bode is probably not too disapointed in his performance at Torino you shouldn't be either. We will remember his name long after that French guy who won silver when Bode tied for 6th. The crappy US coverage didn't even mention the French guy either for chrissakes!
On the other hand, Lance is a god we all know that... you can't touch him.
Nike was upset with Miller to the point that they asked NBC not to continually run the Tom Brokaw intereview with Miller after his event on Sat.
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Originally Posted by hellon2wheels
Is Bode Miller just like Filipo Simeoni?
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Originally Posted by hellon2wheels
So the skier who admitted that he competed while drunk now states that athletes such as Lance and Barry Bonds are DEFINITELY doping. Fact that this is a guy who obviously has questionable standards makes me think that I should not give him any time of my day for what he says. Also, we all heard that Lance is the MOST tested athelete in the world. Does it bother us that Lance is lumped in with someone like Bonds in any statement? Just for the fact that I cycle, I notice myself "tempted" to defend Lance. Anyone share my "tendency?" Is Bode Miller just like Filipo Simeoni?
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He said what he though. He didnt tell the media to hype him up as a prospect for the olympics, they did that on their own. The guy has talent, if he chooses to not use it to its full extent thats his decision. They rammed him down everyones throat, now they have to act like they knew bode would flop, and blame it on him being reckless...because everyone knows the media is never wrong.
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Originally Posted by mr. peugeot
I'd just like to ask Barry Bonds what kind of exercise machine it is that makes your head bigger.
Barry is 40+ years old now he might look a little different than he did on a 1987 topps baseball card.
I'm not a Barry Bonds fan but I respect his homerun numbers alot more than the Babes because he's playing against the best competition the world has to offer - who may also be shooting up.
Babe Ruth didn't even play against the best players his "country" had to offer, you should put an * near his numbers for that.
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Originally Posted by C4Byke
How bout the fact that several of his teamates have been caught, he's a personal friend of a doping doctor, he used EPO during his cancer treatment, uh and he won 7 straight after having cancer.
EPO, like any other hormone in the body, is degraded and cleared. So your statement that Lance getting EPO during his cancer treatment had ANYTHING to do with winning 7 tours is quite ignorant. It just doesn't work that way.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
The most difficult part of this to handle is the fact that this idiot is making MILLIONS (reportedly $5 million annually from current endorsement deals) for being a dickhead just because he wins ski races. But not the BIG ones I suppose. He was too hung over for that. Oh well.
Guess who won overall last year...
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Originally Posted by jmd471
He said what he though. He didnt tell the media to hype him up as a prospect for the olympics, they did that on their own. The guy has talent, if he chooses to not use it to its full extent thats his decision. They rammed him down everyones throat, now they have to act like they knew bode would flop, and blame it on him being reckless...because everyone knows the media is never wrong.
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Originally Posted by John W
It's BS like this that keeps the Lance doping story alive. It's NEVER been proven.
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I think my wife put it best when she said: Win the gold medal first, then shoot your mouth off.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
You clearly don't understand EPO, my friend. EPO is a hormone that stimulates red blood cell production, which I figure you know. The body also makes its own EPO in the kidney, which makes it very easy to develop a test that will pop up positive for EPO even though an athlete wasn't taking any. The bone marrow gets suppressed during certain types of chemotherapy, so in order to maintain a NORMAL (not doped) hematocrit, i.e. red blood cell concentration in the blood, patients will get EPO.
EPO, like any other hormone in the body, is degraded and cleared. So your statement that Lance getting EPO during his cancer treatment had ANYTHING to do with winning 7 tours is quite ignorant. It just doesn't work that way.
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EPO, like any other hormone in the body, is degraded and cleared. So your statement that Lance getting EPO during his cancer treatment had ANYTHING to do with winning 7 tours is quite ignorant. It just doesn't work that way.
DrPete
Well, considering the fact that my place of previous employment was head IV tech at a large privately owned elder-care facility, I do know a little about erythropoiten treatments. You missunderstood my point; that particular quote of mine that you pulled up from 2 months ago was meant more towards the 'where there's smoke there's fire' argument. I just found it interesting that before cancer and epo lance could barely finish the Tour, and after he got a taste of what epo can do for you, cardiovascularly, I think he got hooked. Then his teammates all get really good too. Then he retires. Then all of his teammates start getting busted for epo. And you calling my opinion ingorant when you can't back up your own with facts, is well, ignorant. Good day DOCTOR.
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Originally Posted by hellon2wheels
So the skier who admitted that he competed while drunk now states that athletes such as Lance and Barry Bonds are DEFINITELY doping. Fact that this is a guy who obviously has questionable standards makes me think that I should not give him any time of my day for what he says. Also, we all heard that Lance is the MOST tested athelete in the world. Does it bother us that Lance is lumped in with someone like Bonds in any statement? Just for the fact that I cycle, I notice myself "tempted" to defend Lance. Anyone share my "tendency?" Is Bode Miller just like Filipo Simeoni?
Bode "who?"
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I'm not quite sure what opinion I stated that I didn't back up with factual information, but that's neither here nor there. If you want I can send you the references from any number of physiology texts that explain how EPO works in the human body, as well as the factors that can influence the indirect testing that's now done to determine who used EPO.
All I was saying was that 1. the jury is still out on the best/most accurate test for EPO, and 2. Making the leap from getting EPO to survive cancer chemo to using it illegally to win 7 tours is a pretty big one.
I don't know what the "good day DOCTOR" thing is all about--I guess that part's just from being a prick.
DrPete
All I was saying was that 1. the jury is still out on the best/most accurate test for EPO, and 2. Making the leap from getting EPO to survive cancer chemo to using it illegally to win 7 tours is a pretty big one.
I don't know what the "good day DOCTOR" thing is all about--I guess that part's just from being a prick.
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Bode Miller 0 for 5 and another Nike flop. I am wondering if the pre-Olympics hype from Nike for certain athletes is actually a jinx. Anyone else remember Dan and Dave?
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Originally Posted by 1fluffhead
Bode Miller 0 for 5 and another Nike flop. I am wondering if the pre-Olympics hype from Nike for certain athletes is actually a jinx. Anyone else remember Dan and Dave?
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Nope, it doesn't bother me in the least. I don't wish him ill or glory in his race finishes.
Methinks some people watch too many ads and listen the the commentators too much!
Methinks some people watch too many ads and listen the the commentators too much!
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It's so frustrating to watch sometimes--I feel like Nike feeds the idea that the American athletes they support are somehow bigger contenders on the international stage than they really are.
Why doesn't Nike sign a big deal with Hermann Maier or the whole Austrian ski team? Maier especially is a real story of courage, dedication and passion on an almost Lance-type scale. The guy almost lost his leg and is back on the mountain winning medals.
It's frustrating to watch the US athletes at the olympics. From the girl who lost a gold medal showboating on her snowboard to the female skier who wore her beads down the mountain and shook her butt at the bottom having posted a mediocre time. It just perpetuates the world's already negative view of us and our athletes. It would be so refreshing to see more athletes like Apollo Anton Ohno who just go out there and perform, humbly and without drama. Instead we get headlines about Bode being an ass. What a shame.
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Why doesn't Nike sign a big deal with Hermann Maier or the whole Austrian ski team? Maier especially is a real story of courage, dedication and passion on an almost Lance-type scale. The guy almost lost his leg and is back on the mountain winning medals.
It's frustrating to watch the US athletes at the olympics. From the girl who lost a gold medal showboating on her snowboard to the female skier who wore her beads down the mountain and shook her butt at the bottom having posted a mediocre time. It just perpetuates the world's already negative view of us and our athletes. It would be so refreshing to see more athletes like Apollo Anton Ohno who just go out there and perform, humbly and without drama. Instead we get headlines about Bode being an ass. What a shame.
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Originally Posted by jmd471
He said what he though. He didnt tell the media to hype him up as a prospect for the olympics, they did that on their own. The guy has talent, if he chooses to not use it to its full extent thats his decision. They rammed him down everyones throat, now they have to act like they knew bode would flop, and blame it on him being reckless...because everyone knows the media is never wrong.
The US media has hyped Miller up, and has put far too much importance on winning a gold medal at the olympics. He finished overall first in the world cup, in a sport where favourites can finish last due to the tiniest of mistakes.
Stop listening to the commentators and the media so much.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
It's so frustrating to watch sometimes--I feel like Nike feeds the idea that the American athletes they support are somehow bigger contenders on the international stage than they really are.
Why doesn't Nike sign a big deal with Hermann Maier or the whole Austrian ski team? Maier especially is a real story of courage, dedication and passion on an almost Lance-type scale. The guy almost lost his leg and is back on the mountain winning medals.
It's frustrating to watch the US athletes at the olympics. From the girl who lost a gold medal showboating on her snowboard to the female skier who wore her beads down the mountain and shook her butt at the bottom having posted a mediocre time. It just perpetuates the world's already negative view of us and our athletes. It would be so refreshing to see more athletes like Apollo Anton Ohno who just go out there and perform, humbly and without drama. Instead we get headlines about Bode being an ass. What a shame.
DrPete
Why doesn't Nike sign a big deal with Hermann Maier or the whole Austrian ski team? Maier especially is a real story of courage, dedication and passion on an almost Lance-type scale. The guy almost lost his leg and is back on the mountain winning medals.
It's frustrating to watch the US athletes at the olympics. From the girl who lost a gold medal showboating on her snowboard to the female skier who wore her beads down the mountain and shook her butt at the bottom having posted a mediocre time. It just perpetuates the world's already negative view of us and our athletes. It would be so refreshing to see more athletes like Apollo Anton Ohno who just go out there and perform, humbly and without drama. Instead we get headlines about Bode being an ass. What a shame.
DrPete
I think the press was pretty easy on these guys - I would of loved to see the type of reaction the US Basketball team would of got if they went on like a bunch of Arseholes like the ski team or performed as bad as the hockey team.
At least Lebron and Iverson were ashamed by their performances this Bode dummy doesn't even care!
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The media doesn't focus on the vast majority of athletes who compete and don't make @sses of themselves and the U.S. media is going to focus on the U.S. athletes. And since the U.S. media is getting paid to put up some big ratings for their advertisers, they go after what they think will lure the most watchers.
U.S. athletes do not have a monopoly on being bad sports, whiners, or arrogant.
I get tired of the endless showboating on the football field after a routine tackle, much less when somebody scores a touchdown.
U.S. athletes do not have a monopoly on being bad sports, whiners, or arrogant.
I get tired of the endless showboating on the football field after a routine tackle, much less when somebody scores a touchdown.
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Originally Posted by bbattle
The media doesn't focus on the vast majority of athletes who compete and don't make @sses of themselves and the U.S. media is going to focus on the U.S. athletes. And since the U.S. media is getting paid to put up some big ratings for their advertisers, they go after what they think will lure the most watchers.
U.S. athletes do not have a monopoly on being bad sports, whiners, or arrogant.
I get tired of the endless showboating on the football field after a routine tackle, much less when somebody scores a touchdown.
U.S. athletes do not have a monopoly on being bad sports, whiners, or arrogant.
I get tired of the endless showboating on the football field after a routine tackle, much less when somebody scores a touchdown.
Makes me appreciate Hincappie, Barry Sanders, Roger Federer and Kevin Garnett so much more - classy on and off the field.