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I don't like dropbars but want something more aero than flatbar

Old 02-05-06, 03:45 AM
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I don't like dropbars but want something more aero than flatbar

I've heard about trekking bars from Nashbar but they look really huge and clunky...not sure if that's what I want for my situation. What other options are there? This would be for a commuter bike - I like the flatbar in downtown traffic but on lonely straghtaways I kinda wish I could tuck/stretch a little more. I currently ride a flatbar road bike and don't want to change out all the shifters and brakes so I'd need something compatible with that stuff.

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Sounds like you need some bar ends. I like the Profile SOS bar ends. The Cane Creek Ergo Control bar ends are also very nice.
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Tom Deakins of Harris Cyclery (I think) wrote a good article on handlebar choices for touring:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/deakins/handlebars.html

If you don't like drop bars, the moustache bar seems to be the best compromise.
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If going down the bar-end route and if you sometimes find a drop position to be useful, you may consider adding a set of Road-Ends to the MTB flatbar.

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As I mentioned in the other thread, if you are a fit roady with even average flexiblity and you don't like drop bars then you either aren't a fit roady or likely you are riding too small a bike with short head tube resulting in your bars being too low. There is a reason that drop bars have been around on road bikes for over a hundred years...they work.
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Originally Posted by biker7
As I mentioned in the other thread, if you are a fit roady with even average flexiblity and you don't like drop bars then you either aren't a fit roady or likely you are riding too small a bike with short head tube resulting in your bars being too low. There is a reason that drop bars have been around on road bikes for over a hundred years...they work.
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Yes...I ride in the drops all the time. It's the position the bike was designed to be ridden...if it's not comfortable to ride in them, there's a fit issue.

Nothing like riding a road bike on the hoods into a 20-30mph head wind...
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Are you looking for more hand positions? (see prior answers) or looking to be more aero into the wind? Try riding with your hands right next to the stem and tuck your elbows in ... suprisingly aero.

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Originally Posted by biker7
As I mentioned in the other thread, if you are a fit roady with even average flexiblity and you don't like drop bars then you either aren't a fit roady or likely you are riding too small a bike with short head tube resulting in your bars being too low. There is a reason that drop bars have been around on road bikes for over a hundred years...they work.
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I think he's looking for bars for a commuter bike, so he'd rather have a more heads-up view of the traffic around him
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I believe on one of Sheldon Brown's pages there's a pic of a commuter bike and it appears that they put bar-ends on the flat bar about two inches or so from the stem on either side. Looked like stubby aero bars.

Would give you a more aero position as well as providing a different hand position.
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I would say if style is in the same class as substance is for you, go with some bullhorn handlebars (Nasbar.com has a nice sturdy pair). I have them on my mountain bike/commuter and I was able to put the brakes and the thumbshifters on both the horns. I found that since I ride on the side of 4 lane highways, this set-up was a great addition to my ride because I was able to get in an aero position for as long as I needed to, or could stand (and they look great too). If you want an even more aero position, get a set of bolt-on aero bars. Just my 2 cents....Good luck!
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Get TheFixer's handlebars. I wish I had a pair *cry*. They look really awesome
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moustache bars.
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Moustache bars.......on the ends its heads-up, hands on hoods its a bit more aero. More aero still would be to clamp an aero bar to the moustache bar's center sleeve on either side of the stem clamp. May require a shim--easily home-made if need be.

Rivendell used to offer moustache bars in either mtn or road diameter to accomodate shifters & brakes. Would probably be worth it to pick up brake levers and bar ends on eBay....you would have an awesome bike for heads up or heads down. I used this set-up on my Bridgestone RB-T for two years-- made it a fine utility bike for commuting, sight-seeing, light touring.
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Wow those road ends seem perfect! Endless Innovations is sold out though - any other places to get them? Also my bars are currently 55cm-ish, any reason not to cut off a few cm on each side? I don't even use the very edge of it. This way I'd have a weird hybrid drop-flatbar setup.

And just FYI - my gripe with drops isn't fit or fitness - my biggest gripe with drops is I don't like the brake/shifter position on drops. I *do* like the more aero body position...just not all the time Flatbar is also better in traffic IMO.

If it matters my bike is a 2003 Fuji Royale, all stock except for tires and the seat (got a gel seat rather than the racer saddle).

http://www.fujibikes.com/road/bike.a...yID=20&yr=2003

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Anyone remember these (Cinelli Spinachi)?



I would not personally ride drops if I couldn't access the brakes quickly. I like shallow drop bars a lot. I just put some on my fixed gear. I will get some for my road bike as soon as I have the $$$.

Sorry, but this is another reason I hate integrated brake/shift levers. It should not be an expensive pain to change bars. My ideal commuting setup would probably be shallow drop bars with road levers, old XT thumbshifters (or maybe just one with a downtube for the front der), and cyclocross interrupter levers.
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Originally Posted by marqueemoon
Anyone remember these (Cinelli Spinachi)?



I would not personally ride drops if I couldn't access the brakes quickly. I like shallow drop bars a lot. I just put some on my fixed gear. I will get some for my road bike as soon as I have the $$$.

Sorry, but this is another reason I hate integrated brake/shift levers. It should not be an expensive pain to change bars. My ideal commuting setup would probably be shallow drop bars with road levers, old XT thumbshifters (or maybe just one with a downtube for the front der), and cyclocross interrupter levers.
can you use the spinachi bars with a flatbar?
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i say just go with the standard drop bars... they offer a lot of different positions so when you're riding for a long time, you have a variety of positions to put your hands. Simple as that... more options
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Bullhorns perhaps?
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My opinion is that you should go with the Nashbar bar you mentioned, it's not really too large, but is actually a decent size. And besides if you set it up correctly you will have three positions that are quite functional. You'll have a very close reach, a bar end grasp, and an aero position when grabbing the very front of the bar. Look at my set up for example. And if you notice the part of the bar that is closer to me is higher than the part that is further from me; this allows for a more relax position, which is great when cruising. But yet if I wanted a more aggressive position I have that available also. When I am grabbing onto the part of the bar that is farthest from me I have the choice of resting my arms on the part of the bar that is closest to me, which allows for a comfortable aero position. Also if you could see I am using foam grips on the bar which makes for quite a comfortable situation. Yeah you might think that it is too different, but that's because you haven't tried it yet. Just my two cents.
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Originally Posted by Illah
I've heard about trekking bars from Nashbar but they look really huge and clunky...not sure if that's what I want for my situation. What other options are there? This would be for a commuter bike - I like the flatbar in downtown traffic but on lonely straghtaways I kinda wish I could tuck/stretch a little more. I currently ride a flatbar road bike and don't want to change out all the shifters and brakes so I'd need something compatible with that stuff.

Any suggestions?

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Did you think about Bullhorn bars? They are basically a flat bar with bar ends built in. The only problem might be the bar diameter. Check to see if you can use with your shifters. The Moustache was already mentioned and is an excellent idea. A few users put flat bar controls on them, most use barcon shifters though. Good luck

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Thanks for all the suggestions - I contacted Endless Innovations and the Road Ends v2.0 should be available in a few weeks. I can live with flatbar until then If I'm still not happy then I'll try the touring/trekking bars from Nashbar.

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Originally Posted by Illah
Thanks for all the suggestions - I contacted Endless Innovations and the Road Ends v2.0 should be available in a few weeks.
Road Ends v2.0?!?!? Interesting... any details on what's been changed?
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Well I gave up on the Road-Ends idea since I realized that i'd have extremely wide drops if I used those. Plus I just am not a big fan of drops. As for the difference between v2.0 and the original, I think the new are aluminum while the original are injection-molded plastic. At least that's what I got from the tech support.

I ended up with Nashbar Road Bar Add-Ons, essentially a generic Cinelli Spinaci. So far it's working out well.

http://www.seanmulholland.com/arc/03...y-new-ride.php

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