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{Apostasy] Flat-bar Road bike

Old 02-23-06, 10:24 AM
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{Apostasy] Flat-bar Road bike

I ride around Boston primarily on city streets, and have concluded that my Bianchi Brava is not right. It takes me a block to get to speed and 'in position' and then I have to stop for a light. Therefore I'm thinking about one of the flat-bar road bikes, Specialized Sirrus or Jamis Coda. Can anyone suggest a reason to prefer one of these, or another similar bike?
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The best reason would be that you might be more comfortable on one.
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Fuji Absolute might be worth looking at.

http://www.fujibikes.com/2006/bikes.asp?id=249
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Trek FX or Pilot flatbar.
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Well Marin has a line of these bikes as well...they call them ALP...I ride the Mill Valley which is similar to the Sirrus. My wife rides an 04 Sirrus Sport Disc. So I have some expierence with a couple of different models here. If I was looking at the bikes you are looking at I think I would lean towards the Jamis due to the use of steel for the frame rather than AL. The Coda Comp looks nice and the Coda Elite really looks nice but the price is a bit high I am guessing.

Hmm maybe I need a Coda Elite it has much if not all of what I have been looking for in the commuter/family bike. Disc brakes (need this for when I am towing the ute), steel frame, compact frame (again a towing requirement). Making mental note.
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Originally Posted by amacks
I ride around Boston primarily on city streets, and have concluded that my Bianchi Brava is not right. It takes me a block to get to speed and 'in position' and then I have to stop for a light. Therefore I'm thinking about one of the flat-bar road bikes, Specialized Sirrus or Jamis Coda. Can anyone suggest a reason to prefer one of these, or another similar bike?
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It will probably take a block to get up to speed and comfortable on most bikes. It's just that you have so many close red lights. I don't think a different bike will change that.
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how about slapping a flat bar on the Bianchi to see how you like it? You're not out 600 bucks if you don't like it. This is much easier if you have an old bike with downtube shifters. For that matter, it might be a good idea to buy an older bike off Craigslist with DT shifters, then slap on a flat bar and MTB levers--that is the set-up I currently run, with a recent switch to thumbshifters culled from a bike junkyard.
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Originally Posted by Grasschopper
Well Marin has a line of these bikes as well...they call them ALP...I ride the Mill Valley which is similar to the Sirrus. My wife rides an 04 Sirrus Sport Disc. So I have some expierence with a couple of different models here. If I was looking at the bikes you are looking at I think I would lean towards the Jamis due to the use of steel for the frame rather than AL. The Coda Comp looks nice and the Coda Elite really looks nice but the price is a bit high I am guessing.
The steel Jamis may be nice, but does it come stock (with suspension seatpost) weighing 14.2 lbs, like the ALP?

HA HA!

Anyway, here's a longer thread that is a bit more critical of the flat bar bike:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=174357
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Originally Posted by Phantoj
The steel Jamis may be nice, but does it come stock (with suspension seatpost) weighing 14.2 lbs, like the ALP?

HA HA!

Anyway, here's a longer thread that is a bit more critical of the flat bar bike:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=174357
ROFLMAO - I will say that the current setup of my Marin has it tiping the scales at a feathery 29 lbs. Of course that is with fenders, rack, panniers, hitch, computer, cages, tube, tools, pump, etc.

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Remember, it's actually 12 lbs shipped.
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Maybe any 26" bike that catches your fancy, but with as high a top tube as you want and a rigid fork (since its for road and not for offroad use) and equip it with high pressure 1.5" tires.




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Originally Posted by amacks
It takes me a block to get to speed and 'in position' and then I have to stop for a light.
That is precisely the reason I built this Fetish... On my Specialized, riding around in a dense urban
environment I'm on the hoods 95% of the time anyways.
Traffic lights are timed in such a way that there's no sense in sprinting to a red...

stop-and-go traffic is a great way to make sure your brakes are setup properly

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Originally Posted by Grasschopper
ROFLMAO - I will say that the current setup of my Marin has it tiping the scales at a feathery 29 lbs. Of course that is with fenders, rack, panniers, hitch, computer, cages, tube, tools, pump, etc.

29 - 14.5 = 14.5 Your accessories weigh as much as your bike !!
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29 - 14.5 = 14.5 Your accessories weigh as much as your bike !!
Um are there people out there that think this bike really weighs 14.5 lbs? I replaced the Xero "lite" XR-03 wheels with hand built Salsa Delgado X/105 customs...those things aren't light but they are about as bombproof as you can get....that MUST be where all the added weight comes from.
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Great looking bike but I noticed you have a front shifter, but possibly running a single up front? What's the go?
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Originally Posted by thewalrus
That is precisely the reason I built this Fetish... On my Specialized, riding around in a dense urban
environment I'm on the hoods 95% of the time anyways.
Traffic lights are timed in such a way that there's no sense in sprinting to a red...

stop-and-go traffic is a great way to make sure your brakes are setup properly

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Originally Posted by Grasschopper
Um are there people out there that think this bike really weighs 14.5 lbs?
No.
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Originally Posted by giantcfr1
Great looking bike but I noticed you have a front shifter, but possibly running a single up front? What's the go?
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I'll answer that one! He took these pics before his braze on FD came in. Nice components!!
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Originally Posted by amacks
I ride around Boston primarily on city streets, and have concluded that my Bianchi Brava is not right. It takes me a block to get to speed and 'in position' and then I have to stop for a light. Therefore I'm thinking about one of the flat-bar road bikes, Specialized Sirrus or Jamis Coda. Can anyone suggest a reason to prefer one of these, or another similar bike?
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Are you using clipless pedals?
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Originally Posted by Grasschopper
Um are there people out there that think this bike really weighs 14.5 lbs? I replaced the Xero "lite" XR-03 wheels with hand built Salsa Delgado X/105 customs...those things aren't light but they are about as bombproof as you can get....that MUST be where all the added weight comes from.
It's a running joke from an earlier thread; guy claims his commuter weighs 14.5 pounds. And he wanted advice on how to further reduce the weight.
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Originally Posted by bbattle
It's a running joke from an earlier thread; guy claims his commuter weighs 14.5 pounds. And he wanted advice on how to further reduce the weight.
I know that's why I went with this guy ->
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To answer a question, I've been using toe-clips, but considering moving to something clipless if I get in good enough shape to bike the 15mi to work.

My problem with the drop bars is that I ride only on the hoods, which then dig into the thumb-finger web and I also can't get great breaking power there.

My older, crappier bike has flat bars, and I've been more happy with it, it's just way to havy and slow and crappy
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I bought a flat bar road bike for my 11 year old daughter. She's an avid rider, having done 8 metric centuries last year on the back of mom's tandem. Around town, sherides solo on her Trek mtb, but 20 miles is about the limit on that bke - it is heavy and she has a real time keeping up and not getting exhausted.

Right now, she is too large for the smaller scale road bikes with the 24" wheels, and can technically "fit" on the smallest road frames that have 700c wheels. The problem is that she cannot safely work the shifters/brakes on a standard road setup - they are just out of comfortable reach even with the smallest stem.

We were able to get her onto a Giant FCR road bike with flat bars and trigger shifters, and she is now a demon on wheels. 700c wheels with 23cm tires, and shifters/brakes she can easily work in emergencies. The flat bar bike is a nice transition bike for her, and in a year or so when she's grown some more we will revisit the normal road bikes and see what's what. In fact, I picked up a small crash damaged Lemond Reno for next to nothing the other day, and hope to have that built and ready for her.

Speaking of which - anyone got a Shimano 105 RD and/or 9 speed rear wheel/cassette they want to sell or trade?
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