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Old 02-23-06, 11:56 PM
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Motobecane Le Champion SL

So a friend of mine sent me this link: http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...p06_sl_pre.htm.
Full Ultegra for $1300 hundred? Why so cheap? Are they cutting corners on frame or something?

Thanks.
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Old 02-24-06, 12:01 AM
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oh dear.....

umm, that topic has been discussed a fair bit around here, so if you do a search on 'motobecane' and 'bikesdirect' you'll find some lively and entertaining discussions that will enlighten and amuse...
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Maybe a PM to alanbikehouston would be enlightening.
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They've gone up $200, huh?
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Originally Posted by fmw
They've gone up $200, huh?
In talking to my LBS the wholesale prices from Shimano on their whole line have gone up. This would explain the increase IMO.
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Originally Posted by Grasschopper
In talking to my LBS the wholesale prices from Shimano on their whole line have gone up. This would explain the increase IMO.
and the new ac wheelset might be more expensive than the 350s?

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The Le Champions are such nice bikes. The sum of the parts are worth more than the bike! I'd love to pick one up.
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and the tektro brakes are gone, replaced by cane creeks?
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Its a good bike. Several of us (including Ostuni and I) purchased last years model. Changes for this year include the AC wheels (upgraded from sprint 350 last year) and the cane creek brakes which I hear aren't so good. Last years Tektro's were ok after you replaced the pads.

Lots of threads out there about these from last year. Probably lots of good reading for you.
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Dear Bike Forum members-

The 2006 Le Champion SL is being sold by us at this low price as a special promotion through Motobecane USA - AND because of our efficient business model (ie - lower overhead) - these are full bike shop quality bikes with full warranties. No corners have been cut. Just overhead has been cut to bring you these bikes at an nearly unbelievable price.

Motobecane USA is using the cane creek brakes because they are lighter than Ultegra and in fact, when purchased after-market - the cane creek scr-5 brakes cost more than Ultegra

We considered raising the price to a more believable figure but we don't want to gouge anyone and prefer to let those that believe in us reap the benefits.

Anyone who orders a bike from us can return it in new condition within 30 days of purchase for a refund.
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Originally Posted by bikesdirect
Dear Bike Forum members-

The 2006 Le Champion SL is being sold by us at this low price as a special promotion through Motobecane USA - AND because of our efficient business model (ie - lower overhead) - these are full bike shop quality bikes with full warranties. No corners have been cut. Just overhead has been cut to bring you these bikes at an nearly unbelievable price.

Motobecane USA is using the cane creek brakes because they are lighter than Ultegra and in fact, when purchased after-market - the cane creek scr-5 brakes cost more than Ultegra

We considered raising the price to a more believable figure but we don't want to gouge anyone and prefer to let those that believe in us reap the benefits.

Anyone who orders a bike from us can return it in new condition within 30 days of purchase for a refund.
Oh boy, this is going to be interesting. Someone who is openly a bikesdirect employee posting here. Tone down the sales speak just a bit and actually I think your input will be welcomed. I'd like to see you stick around.

On the brake issue - more expensive doesn't always equal better. I've heard from more than one person the cane creeks aren't the best brakes around. I know the ultegras are pretty strong. Admittedly for the price you can add whatever you want later and the bike's still a pretty darn good deal. The Tektro's I had on my 2005 model (replaced recently w/Dura Ace) were ok except for the brake pads - man those brake pads were a bit nasty. I think the AC 420's are a nice upgrade over the sprint 350's a year ago. Good job there.

Any comment on the apparent relationship between the Le Champ SL frame and the Fuji Team SL? I noticed the "xfusion SL" badging on the seat stays is the same.
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I'll bite too. I have about 500 miles on mine I guess and I love it. I bought it mostly for the parts and will be using it as a crit bike this year, which will be my first year of racing. I bought it because of the great price and good reviews it has gotten around here. I have a Trek Madone 5.2 with Ultegra and am able to use the lightweight AC wheels on it when I want. I also enjoy have the compact crankset. The bike has been awesome and surpassed all of my expectations so far. As for the brakes, they're not so good. I already replaced the pads with Dura-Ace and when I eventually purchase a team frame in December I will replace the brakesets altogether. The bike is also advertised at 15.1 pounds but I would guess mine came in around 16, but that's not a big deal to me. Can't say much more about it, hope this helps. Ron
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Let me add that I also replaced the brakes with Ultegras. The Ultegra brakes are much stiffer than the Cane Creeks and are a better all around brakeset.

Anyone in the market for some near new Cane Creek SCR-5s?
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Originally Posted by ravenmore
Oh boy, this is going to be interesting. Someone who is openly a bikesdirect employee posting here. Tone down the sales speak just a bit and actually I think your input will be welcomed. I'd like to see you stick around. [...] Any comment on the apparent relationship between the Le Champ SL frame and the Fuji Team SL? I noticed the "xfusion SL" badging on the seat stays is the same.
I had heard from a Florida Cycle Spectrum employe that the 'Product Manager' for Fuji and the CS/BD brands were the same person.

It would be interesting to hear more about how that relationship is (or isn't) structured.
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Hmmm, do you think maybe that alanbikehouston's last post and bikesdirect's first post..... NAH!
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I pulled the trigger on a Le Champ SL last July and I've been very impressed. I paid 1100 usd. for it, and I've found it to be a tremendous value. I also agree that the Tektro brakes were pure crap, so I replaced them with ultegra 6600 (much better!). The BB was also crap, so I replaced that. But still, BD is a tremendous value if you're looking for the most bang for your buck.
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Originally Posted by badkarma
I pulled the trigger on a Le Champ SL last July and I've been very impressed. I paid 1100 usd. for it, and I've found it to be a tremendous value. I also agree that the Tektro brakes were pure crap, so I replaced them with ultegra 6600 (much better!). The BB was also crap, so I replaced that. But still, BD is a tremendous value if you're looking for the most bang for your buck.
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So where is bikesdirect.com's headquarters located? I recall reading somewhere that they had warehouses all over the US? Is it possible to pick up a bike in person from one of the warehouses?
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Originally Posted by Eric_The_Jew
So where is bikesdirect.com's headquarters located? I recall reading somewhere that they had warehouses all over the US? Is it possible to pick up a bike in person from one of the warehouses?
Why? They have free shipping...
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Cause I'd like to check out the product and person before I shell out the cash
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Originally Posted by badkarma
I pulled the trigger on a Le Champ SL last July and I've been very impressed. I paid 1100 usd. for it, and I've found it to be a tremendous value. I also agree that the Tektro brakes were pure crap, so I replaced them with ultegra 6600 (much better!). The BB was also crap, so I replaced that. But still, BD is a tremendous value if you're looking for the most bang for your buck.

Same here.... I bought mine last summer and put about 1000 miles on it. I ground the bottom bracket to bits in about 250, replaced it with a good one and have had not further troubles (the new LeChampions come with an Ultegra BB). I wasn't too impressed with the Tektro brakes, but changing to CoolStop pads made them very satisfactory to me and I doubt I'll replace them.

I think the bike is a screamin' bargain and wouldn't hesitate to buy another!

Good riding,
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Should I re-post alanbikehouston's obligatory rant, or does everyone have it memorized by now?

That is an odd one, though, having someone from bikesdirect.com come out of the closet and post a sales pitch. These are always entertaining threads.

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Originally Posted by bikesdirect
Dear Bike Forum members-

The 2006 Le Champion SL is being sold by us at this low price as a special promotion through Motobecane USA - AND because of our efficient business model (ie - lower overhead) - these are full bike shop quality bikes with full warranties. No corners have been cut. Just overhead has been cut to bring you these bikes at an nearly unbelievable price.

Motobecane USA is using the cane creek brakes because they are lighter than Ultegra and in fact, when purchased after-market - the cane creek scr-5 brakes cost more than Ultegra

We considered raising the price to a more believable figure but we don't want to gouge anyone and prefer to let those that believe in us reap the benefits.

Anyone who orders a bike from us can return it in new condition within 30 days of purchase for a refund.
OH
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Wow, alan should really have a field day with this one.
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Biggest complaint is the bottom bracket for me, it was pure junk. I now have a good FSA BB.

I've got 761 mile on it and it's a great bike. I enjoy doing my own tuning and work, so I don't worry much about bike shop support.

The brakes (techtro's) are not bad, the seem to stop well and will lock if you are not careful. I don't know about cane creeks.

I also changed about the wheelset, as I didn't like the AC350's, maybe the 450's are better I don't know.
Had to changed the seat tube, because the factory one was too short. Oh and the Handlbar tape turns pink really fast.

I like the bike so much I'm thinking of getting another one just to have a spare.
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