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how to mount cleats in shoe? i'm dumb.

Old 02-24-06, 08:37 PM
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how to mount cleats in shoe? i'm dumb.

OK, I bought Shimano 520 pedals, and Nike Kato shoes for my new bike.
I didn't think to ask at the store how to mount the cleats to the shoes, as I assumed it would be obvious.
I've tried googling for directions, but can't find any.

I unscrewed the removable part of the sole. I have two different screws, the cleat, and an oval ring. How do they go together? I feel so dumb, I just can't get it to work.

There are four holes in a movable plate in the sole. I positioned the cleat over one of the rows of two holse, places the oval ring inside the cleat, and put both screws in. So far so good. Then I wanted to see if it worked, hopped on, was easily able to click the shoe in, but then can't remove it!

I kept turning my foot, but it wouldn't come off. I took the shoe off, and looked--the cleat is staying in the same place, and the shoe moves, almost 180 degrees, until it can't go any further.

What the heck did I do?
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Old 02-24-06, 08:41 PM
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There are instructions in both the box your 520's came in and the box that your shoes came in!

You might have put the cleat/and or pedals on backwards. Normally you're supposed to kick your heels out - away from the bike in order to clip out. Try moving the shoe heel in towards your bike. Also make sure your pedals are on the correct side of the bike. There should be R and L stamped on the spindle or possibly on the end.
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thanks for the reply!
I didn't get any instructions--the bike shop mounted the pedals for me on my new bike, and I took the originals toe-clips home in a separate bag. No instructions with the shoes either.

I tried moving the shoe every which way, but I can't get it off the bike.
The cleat isn't moving, but the shoe can rotate a lot.
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Take it back to the shop have them fix it for you.

And tell them to give you the instructions that came with it! (or just google shimano and download the PDF). You shoudl (and will) in time learn how to do the most common things on your bike including basic maintenance. I'm surprised they didn't give you the instructions that say how tight (torque) to make the bolts on the bottom of your shoe - it's your responsibility to check these things pre-ride.
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Old 02-24-06, 10:27 PM
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Post a pic, Someone should be able to help.
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Sounds like you did not torque the cleat onto the shoe and instead of popping the cleat out, you are merely rotating the shoe about the cleat. Twist the heel out away from the bike until the cleat pops out (if you can find anything that looks like a tension screw on the pedal, unscrew that a few turns too, but I am not familiar with those pedals); since the cleat is not snug, you may have to rotate it quite a ways. Then snug those screws up so that the cleat does not move on the surface of the shoe. YMMV, of course. Please don't send me a bill if you break something. A pic would help.
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Mpearson, I ended up doing this before I saw your post, D'oh. You nailed it: I ended up loosening the tension bolt a bit and just yanking on the shoe. Looked like the cleat screws had only engaged a thread or two at most in the shoe. (I was even charging up the digital camera to take a pic of my problem)

I'm chalking this up to my stupidity in not having mm sized allen keys, and I'm heading to Ace first thing in the morning.

Bontrager: thanks for the tip, I should have realized Shimano would have the instructions online. I even found an exploded-view of the whole setup, which helped. I still don't see how the screws are going to engage very many threads--they just seem too short.
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Not sure what the size of your mounting hardware is(wow, tons of jokes there) but I use the regular look pedal/cleat (non keo), Always stripping screw heads, smashing them closed, getting pebbles in there etc.

Once you figure it out how to mount what you have, get rid of the lame ass screws that come with them, replace them with some Hex Bolts of the same thread pitch, NOTE: not to scale.





and then you can tighten them with one of these.








No more stripped, smashed, or clogged screwheads.

Plus you can tighten them so much, you will start to pull the shoe apart. Best simple fix I've found.

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Originally Posted by Smoothie104
and then you can tighten them with one of these.
Shimano recommends tightening the bolts to a certain torque spec.

You should have a torque wrench for your regular @ home maintenance. I'd still use a hex nut because sockets or an adjustable wrench is much bigger and heavier than my tool kit I carry on my bike for emergency on the road repairs.
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Originally Posted by uzername
I still don't see how the screws are going to engage very many threads--they just seem too short.
If the screws are too long then you're going to see 2 nasty holes in the bottom of each of your feet postride

If the screws are too short then your LBS should have tons of them for you to use. FYI my pedals (Shimano 540's) came with screws and so did my new Sidi shoes. I think I ended up using the ones that came with SIDI because they were a tiny bit longer plus I felt better about using the SIDI supplied bolts in the SIDI mounting plate even though the threads were equivalent in pitch on both the SIDI and Shimano supplied bolts.

Anyone use LocTite on their bolts?
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I had the problem of only being able to get about 1/2 of a thread per screw started on my cleats on one pair of shoes of mine. I ended up going to home depot to find slightly longer screws. Found some that were 2mm longer that worked great besides being philips head vs allen key. Somewhere with a wider selection of screws/bolts like a turner hardware might be better.
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Originally Posted by uzername
OK, I bought Shimano 520 pedals, and Nike Kato shoes for my new bike.
I didn't think to ask at the store how to mount the cleats to the shoes, as I assumed it would be obvious.
I've tried googling for directions, but can't find any.
Hi,

You may have gotten the cleat mounted to the shoe from a pure mechanical perspective but I suggest you go to a bike shop that can properly aligh the cleats from a biomechanical standpoint. Cleat alignment is not a trivial thing and if this is your first pair of cycling shoes with cleats (shounds like it) then it is even more important to make sure that everything is aligned properly.

Improper fore and aft placement and rotational alignment can at a minimum reduce your efficiency on the bike and at worse damage you knees. A good alignment is worth every penny.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks, Cleave--I'll do that. Especially since I'm trying to up my biking and taper down the running to avoid damage.
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