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Old 02-28-06, 07:08 AM
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New bottle cage quagmire.

I'm torn between the Zipp Carbon bottle cages and the Elite Patao Carbon bottle cages.

Both can be had at a very discounted price ($75 USD a pair of Zipps with hardware and $115 for a pair of Elites with hardware), so it's "buy-one-get-one-free".

Both are so damn sexy.

What should I do?
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Old 02-28-06, 07:14 AM
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Save your money...

I like the zipps...
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Tacx
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I did the carbon cage thing...they don't hold bottles well and break...silly place to use CF that is mearly for posers.
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Originally Posted by Grasschopper
Tacx
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I did the carbon cage thing...they don't hold bottles well and break...silly place to use CF that is mearly for posers.
I disagree. I had TACX Tao cages, and I liked them alot, they held bottles really well, but both sets broke off at the bosses. Four different cages broke at exactly the same point. On a whim I replaced them with Arundel cages, and those have been indestructable, and hold the bottles nice and tight. I agree that crazy light cages are silly, but if they DO work as well or better, then by all means...
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or to satisfy the weight weenie in you, you could go for B-T-P and get two for the weight of one at a price between the two you're considering.
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Originally Posted by mellowdave
I disagree. I had TACX Tao cages, and I liked them alot, they held bottles really well, but both sets broke off at the bosses. Four different cages broke at exactly the same point. On a whim I replaced them with Arundel cages, and those have been indestructable, and hold the bottles nice and tight. I agree that crazy light cages are silly, but if they DO work as well or better, then by all means...
I must say I don't use the Tacx cages...just know that a large amount of the pro peleton does...so I assumed they were good. I use the bat cages and have found them to be great.
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I have about 10 sets of these $6 models. Never had a problem.

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If you must have carbon fiber, get some Zeros. Very durable:

http://www.zerocomponents.com/waterbottles.html
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Originally Posted by Grasschopper
I must say I don't use the Tacx cages...just know that a large amount of the pro peleton does...so I assumed they were good. I use the bat cages and have found them to be great.
Pros can afford to use a lot of things that don't hold up well in the long run - it just gets replaced. Having said that, I have a pair of Tacx Taos on my main ride and they are doing well after 1+ years. I can see where they might be a bit delicate, especially if you are rough with your bottles, etc. But you can get them for $10-$15, so it is not like breaking a carbon cage. I just don't see the point of those at the current prices.
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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
I have about 10 sets of these $6 models. Never had a problem.

Ditto. What'll you save? 40 grams total?
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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
I have about 10 sets of these $6 models. Never had a problem.

+1

My $5 Planet Bikes are black and match the black components on my blue bike.

$75 for cages!!!???? Wow.... more power to you! Get them both, try them out, and then auction the losers off to the rest of us for about $5!
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I have never had a CF bottle holder break on me. Personally, unless you are trying to build an ultralight bike and each gram matters to you, just choose the one you like best, or the least expensive.
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Originally Posted by Grasschopper
I almost got a set of bat cages for my OCLV, but I went with the Bontrager Race Lites instead. IMO a little better looking, and around 10g ligher (claimed) than the bat cages.

To the OP, the Bontrager Race XXX Lite Carbon bottle cages are nice, if you can get past the stigma of having a Trek-made part on your ride.
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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
I have about 10 sets of these $6 models. Never had a problem.

+1, I'm using some Elite alloy cages now, but they were on sale for about $5. Sounds like a lot of money for a cage, but the OCP force is strong with this one...

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stainless cages don't mark up your bottles and are cleaner-looking than the cages with the plastic nubs.
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king Ti's.
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The Tacx cages are very nice. I've seen people break them in the places described by other posters, and from what I've seen, it's always caused by over-tightening. Tighten em down snug with some loctite.
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I ordered a pair of these after I saw them at a local shop. I don't think I could pay $40-50 a piece for a cage.
http://www.rei.com/product/47894440.htm
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those profile stryke cages last about 100 miles. i snapped two within two weeks. no overtorquing or anything. seems to me it's either real cf or alu for cages. the plastic ones are disposable.
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I got the profiles on now...they survived a 450 mile week so lets update the argument a bit. That said I don't expect them to last too long, but as long as you don't slap your bottles in they aren't bad.
I've had Tax's. They look great, my problem is that they don't hold my bottles perfectly so they rattle about and annoy the hell out of me, and I'm not about to go out and by Tax bottles. Only broke one and it sheered like the rest, but it was after I put I knee through it in a crash.
But King Ti's...you can press them down so they'll hold anything tight, they're light and they're wonderfully ungarrish.
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Originally Posted by 56/12 and 22/28
I'm torn between the Zipp Carbon bottle cages and the Elite Patao Carbon bottle cages.

Both can be had at a very discounted price ($75 USD a pair of Zipps with hardware and $115 for a pair of Elites with hardware), so it's "buy-one-get-one-free".

Both are so damn sexy.

What should I do?
Carbon bottle cages represent the ultimate in pointless bling to me. I'm not usually one to judge, but anyone who spends 60 GBP on a Carbon Record Bottle cage really has more money than sense, maybe there should be an extra tax on the sale of CF bottle cages with the proceeds going to charity.

I have specialized £5.99 metal jobbies fitted to my Seven. They won't rattle or drop my bottles when I go over rough Surrey roads and they won't disintegrate if the roads are wet and my water bottles get covered in grit.
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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
I have about 10 sets of these $6 models. Never had a problem.

I'll second that...bought whatever the LBS had for a few bucks and threw 'em on my bike.
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This is a troll, right? Nobody but an utterly hopeless fred would cheap out with $75.00 bottle cages.
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I use the Tacx and so does a buddy of mine. Neither of us have had a problem. Bottle fits in real nice.
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I use those cheap Blackburn Chicane clones, always on sale for like $7 or so from Performance or Nashbar. Best cages for the money and they look sleek & sexy....
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