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Old 03-06-06, 07:23 PM
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I saw this middle aged man wearing a beanie, riding a Walmart "mountain bike", on the phone, weaving a bit and I blurted out to myself in my car "That should be illegal!"
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Having worked at a trauma center and seen a lot of brain injuries, I say more power to ya--Someone has to help train the neurosurgeons...

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How many were riding a bike when they experienced the trauma?
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I wear one because

a) the road is harder than my head
b) I have a family who depends upon me to earn a living for them
c) I nearly lost an eye in a crash fifteen years ago

People who don't take reasonable steps to protect themselves while performing potentially dangerous activities impose a cost upon the rest of society which is selfish and irresponsible.
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Originally Posted by SirScott
Whoa there, calm down buddy, I'm pretty sure this is the internet.
I just called my friend Al Gore. He assured me that this is in fact the Internet.
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Old 03-06-06, 08:49 PM
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I think the mods should ban all future helmet vs. no helmet threads
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Why is it that the non-safety minded always seem to be the most vocal?

Is wearing a helmet really so much of an imposition? You people probably don't wear seatbelts in a car either do you?

Seatbelts save lives.
Helmets save lives.
Idiots who disregard saftey become Darwin award nominees.
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OMG.....Helmet or no helmet? Go ask car racers. Seatbelt or no seatbelt? I'm sure they will give a look of a lifetime. For the people that said riding with no helmet, YOU IDIOTS!!!!
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Originally Posted by ElJamoquio
How many were riding a bike when they experienced the trauma?
What possible difference does that make?

Here's a clue for you: Stuff breaks, usually at the most inopportune time, and idiot cagers sometimes lose control of their cages.

Your entire body is largely unprotected while riding a bike and I have hit speeds close to 50mph on my roadbike...you do the math. Personally, if I'm going to protect anything it's going to be my brain. For the few bucks a helmet costs I think it's worth it.

I guess if your life isn't worth living and you have nobody who loves you, who would actually give a crap if you die, then by all means; feel free to not wear a helmet. But please, don't preach to the rest of us about how stupid you think those of us who do value our lives are. That's what this thread is really all about isn't it? Your intent wasn't really to post any useful information about safety. You are really just trolling.

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I don't wear a helmet sometimes because of general laziness and comfort. (Yes its horrible!) I feel really guilty all the time. Especially when my team coach saw me riding without one once. I'm working on improvements though.
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Originally Posted by Katrogen
I don't wear a helmet sometimes because of general laziness and comfort. (Yes its horrible!) I feel really guilty all the time. Especially when my team coach saw me riding without one once. I'm working on improvements though.
I wouldn't feel guilty so much as I would feel vulnerable.

I look at people riding without helmets and shake my head in disbelief. Same as people driving without seatbelts. Let God sort 'em out! (That's a Duke Nukem reference...I'm not a very religious person).
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I feel much safer with the helmet on. I never get on the bike without my helmet unless it a slow 3mph ride around the block.
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Originally Posted by SDRider
I wouldn't feel guilty so much as I would feel vulnerable.

I look at people riding without helmets and shake my head in disbelief. Same as people driving without seatbelts. Let God sort 'em out! (That's a Duke Nukem reference...I'm not a very religious person).
I feel very vulnerable! Especially since some plywood hanging out of someone's truck almost hit me on the back of the head. Thank Gosh it never happened.
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Originally Posted by SirScott
What happened? Any side effects?
You mean aside from a loss of spelling and typing capabilities?
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Old 03-06-06, 10:59 PM
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I went out for a 40 mile ride along the beach path yesterday and I still wore a helmet. I intended to go without it but, like seatbelts, I just felt safer with it on since there was 5 miles of public roads to get to the beach.
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Originally Posted by H1449-6

People who don't take reasonable steps to protect themselves while performing potentially dangerous activities impose a cost upon the rest of society which is selfish and irresponsible.
does this include overweight and out of shape?---one of americas biggest killers
alcohol?-->goes w/o saying, maybe?
smoking
bad diet
bad job(no exercise or poor working conditions)
bad lifestyle
etc etc
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Originally Posted by ultraman6970
No helmet here... I even ride downhills w/o hands as god commanded (no joke, im a crazy bastard). I ride w/helmet only when racing or in track (always), when traning no helmet at all.
No, you're not crazy. Just, IMO, stupid.


Some people realy needs them because they fall too often... in my case I recognize i would have an accident or fall because of other people stupidity but nah... i wont fall... too many years of experience in my person, I even know how to fall... btw I have fall only 4 times while training and 2 while racing (1 in road, one in track), over a period of 20 years... I think the statistics are in my favour...
Statistics may be in your favor but you know what? Statistics aren't going to save what's left of that brain of yours when the day comes that you take a completely unexpected spill and land on your head because you weren't fast enough to 'fall correctly', whatever that means. Even professionals can't anticipate every possible situation - just look at Ayrton Senna or Dale Earnhardt. Both of these incredible drivers are DEAD.


I know a group or bikers and every weekend somebody falls form the motorsycle when they go out to ride... do not ask me how or why, but untill now i think the answer is because they are DUMB people...

UM
Judging from your spelling/grammar, I suspect you've already had a few head injuries. Honestly, if you want to gamble with your life, that's your choice. What annoys the hell out of me is that a significant number of people show up in our emergency and operating rooms because they thought they were immortal and willingly made unsafe choices despite knowing the potential risks. And then I have to take care of these people. Some of these people don't survive, some do fine, and some have impairments that last the rest of their lives. It's such a waste.

I'm not trying to tell or force anyone to wear a helmet. I couldn't care less what you do to compromise your safety. But coming here and giving incredibly lame-ass reasons why you ride without is, well, lame.
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I'll wear a helmet -- but I refuse to wear a seatbelt when cycling.

I'll go without a helmet only on a canal towpath or rail trail when I know I won't be on road at all. I'm not too worried about me, pedestrians, or even other leisurely cyclists. Cars on the other hand... well, physics can be really cruel to living beings sometimes.
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I'm wondering what the people who refuse to wear helmets do when their kids ride their bikes. Do they make the kids wear a helmet? or do they let the kids ride without one. I for one always wear a helnet as I think it is stupid not too. I also ride with my kids whenever I can. I make sure they always have a helmet and that they see that I always wear mine. I think it would be impossible to get the kids to wear theirs if I refused to.
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Originally Posted by pedex
does this include overweight and out of shape?---one of americas biggest killers
alcohol?-->goes w/o saying, maybe?
smoking
bad diet
bad job(no exercise or poor working conditions)
bad lifestyle
etc etc
I was just waiting to see when some holier-than-thou blowhard would chime in with this
It may or it may not, but you don't see any of htose people in here spouting off about it.
It must be nice to be perfect like you

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I wear a helmet because I dont want to get fine. Helmet cost $70, each fine is around $50, it only takes two fines to make the helmet the cheaper option. Ive seen more than two sets of police since Ive bought the helmet, so for me the helmet is the cheaper option.
I would seriously reconsider wearing a helmet if it wasnt the law though.
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Rode for years sans helmet back when most 'serious' cyclists only wore them for races. The crash where I felt my head actually dent the car inspired me to don skull protection. Very odd sensation, that. If you plan on denting a car with your head, try to hit a flexible spot.
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I'm not sure which generates more consternation from a rapid paceline, my helmetless head or the smoke from my unfiltered Camels....
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Why does this thread exist? I personally believe a person should wear a helmet while riding, and is a fool if he/she does not. Like the other doctor here, I have seen the results of head trauma - people who have lived, and those who haven't. However, you are not my patient. In fact you are just waiting to be someone else's patient. So go ahead, knock yourself out (at the very least). You are not really hurting my feelings at all if you mash your skull like a ping pong ball against the curb. As a matter of fact the only thing i find disturbing here is that you seem to wish to PROMOTE non helmet use as though its a good thing. Why people like that feel the need to advertise their stupidity is quite beyond me, but I would ask that if you smoke cigarettes, don't try to unite the world to your cause. If you don't wear a helmet, don't try it there either.
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There are so many threads like this in the advocacy forum...and noone's mind is being changed over there either...what a waste of time and bandwidth. I'm outta here.

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