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Old 03-07-06, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mrkott3r
I wear a helmet because I dont want to get fine. Helmet cost $70, each fine is around $50, it only takes two fines to make the helmet the cheaper option. Ive seen more than two sets of police since Ive bought the helmet, so for me the helmet is the cheaper option.
I would seriously reconsider wearing a helmet if it wasnt the law though.
It's not the law here, except for kids under 16. I still wear mine on the streets and roads (and MTB trails) because medical treatment is more expensive than helmets or fines. (We don't have a public health care system here for most people under 65; if you break it, you have to pay to get it fixed).
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Originally Posted by pedex
does this include overweight and out of shape?---one of americas biggest killers
alcohol?-->goes w/o saying, maybe?
smoking
bad diet
bad job(no exercise or poor working conditions)
bad lifestyle
etc etc
Yes to all the above. It infuriates me when I see an overweight person eating a cheeseburger and smoking because I know that person is costing me money in the form of higher costs for everything.

I probably need to mellow out a little. But the point stands.
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my bell sweep seems cooler then no helmet so why won't I wear it.
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If the same people who advocate helmetless riding were to also sign a binding waiver that would prohibit them from receiving any state assistance after they become incapacitated I'd say go for it (this applies to m/c riders as well). As it stands, in today's society, that isn't the case. So until you people are willing accept complete and total responsibility for your actions please don't spout your non-sense on public forums.

I don't let my 3 year old ride her tricycle with out a helmet. In the same way I set an example for my kids, they never see me on a bike without one. I want it to become ingrained in their minds that is this is part and parcel of riding a bike. I've done the same thing with McDonalds, they think of it as junk food.
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Old 03-07-06, 08:48 AM
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I always wear one since I hit my head on the bikepath. There were riders all around and alot of confusion and when the guy behind me hit my rear wheel my front wheel tacoed, causing me to hit the ground so fast my hand was still on the bar. The next week or so I had to hold the wall to make it to the bathroom without falling over. I've had other injuries but there's something about a head injury that's very special. Honestly, I rode dirt bikes with heavy full-face helmets for years and I can't even feel a Giro on my head. I can't think of a reason not to wear one, but it's your head.
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Old 03-07-06, 08:55 AM
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If team CSC does it, then so shall I.

Honestly, though who cares!! I wear one because its not worth taking a chance.

Why do you insist on bringing up this topic again? Honestly, I would like to know.

What you do is your business. If you wear a helmet, fine. If you don't want to, fine. I don't care why another rider does the things they do. You have your reasons for not wearing one and I could care less. I will still wear one. Are you a troll? Are you just looking for a fight? Is the weather too cold outside so you stay in here and see what trouble you can cause?

Please, do tell.
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Old 03-07-06, 09:27 AM
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Why don't we just call it a day on this topic & move on?

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Old 03-07-06, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Holland
Why don't we just call it a day on this topic & move on?

Thank you,

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Now we are talking some sense !
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Old 03-07-06, 09:35 AM
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95% of the time I wear a helmet.

When its really cold, and I am wearing 2 wool toques, my helmet will not fit on top (too lazy to adjust the straps) I will do without. All that wool should provide some protection (like the leather hats the pros used to wear decades ago)
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I wear a helmet since i have been seriously into road rides, i never used to when going slower or on quick trips.

But it brings it home when your girlfriend says 'Buy a helmet. You mean too much to me to go without'.

Its no joke. Its a no-brainer, and you don't want to be a no-brainer.
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Old 03-07-06, 10:38 AM
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Nice thread way to stir it up. If you feel the need to chance serious injury than go ahead. I almost lost my son two years ago to freak bike accident where i should've reminded him to wear his helmet. He's ok now, but i'll never forget what happened or underestimate how important a helmet is when riding.
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Old 03-07-06, 12:08 PM
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Always wear a lid - my brain is my second favourite organ
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Originally Posted by SirScott
How many of you ride without a helmet? Don't be ashamed...it's OK!

I do! When I'm not doing group rides or wild descents.
Please... no offense, but YOU'RE CRAZY!

In another lifetime several years back I was a general surgery resident and had to take trauma call -- I still remember the 17 year old kid that they brought in from 50 miles away. He'd been out riding without a helmet with one of his buddies -- back road, not much traffic. A car got a bit close and 'brushed him' -- he lost his balance and landed on his head. He was pretty much DOA and we went on to harvest his organs. It was so totally senseless -- he had 'closed head injury', nothing else except a couple of small abrasions on his arm. And no... he wasn't hit by the car, just lost his balance and toppled over. Can't say for absolute sure, but a helmet would have probably saved his life. It was one of the few times I cried during residency; I can still see the family at the bedside in the ICU...

What are your chances that this would happen to you? I don't know...

Just a thought. And do take care.

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Old 03-07-06, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by baj32161
I was just waiting to see when some holier-than-thou blowhard would chime in with this
It may or it may not, but you don't see any of htose people in here spouting off about it.
It must be nice to be perfect like you

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has nothing to do with being "holier than thou", just recognizing people for what they are, chances are pretty high that many helmet advocates will die of heart disease due to LACK OF EXERCISE, if that isnt irony I dont know what is
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Old 03-07-06, 01:36 PM
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When it comes down to it, it is like Darwin’s Survival of the Fittest in reverse. Just a way of removing the people from the gene pool

Seriously though, many of the silly arguments here are like the people who didn’t want to wear seatbelts when they first came out.
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Originally Posted by 'nother
Actually the simple solution is don't make another pointless !@#$%ing helmet thread/poll.
Sure this topic has been done before; but after a while it's better to do it again for the newer members fun and input. Do we want a bicycle discussion forum or a FAQ file? You really don't have to read it.
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Originally Posted by I saw Elvis
Always wear a lid - my brain is my second favourite organ
Mine too! After my liver.
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Old 03-07-06, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GuitarWizard
Well....since I clicked on it and read through the posts, I figured I'd be part of the thread and offer up some constructive criticism. How about renaming the thread to "Dumbasses -- Unite!"
What about "Brainless Riders -- Unite"?
They sure think they have nothing to protect so why bother wearing an helmet.
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Old 03-07-06, 02:27 PM
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SirScott has some typical opinions, based on ignorance.

1. Speed does not matter, all it takes to die from a head trauma is the distance from your head to the ground.
2. This is different in the US, but in Canada we have public healthcare, which means when these helmetless riders end up on feeding tubes in a coma, we all pay because they don't want to muss their hair.
3. thankfully, bike pros and the rest of the world have evolved.

two of the biggest opponents to helemts in morocycling are:
Gary Busey -in a 4 month coma after falling over parking his bike.
Indian Larry - bashed his head open at 2mph in 2005, dead.
 
Old 03-07-06, 02:35 PM
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You don't want to wear a helmet? Your call, your risk.

But this idea that 'no group, no crazy speed' makes it safer is delusional. The two bike crashes I had in the past year involved neither groups (both solo) or 'crazy speed' (both happened @ approx 22-25mph). In both cases they were unexpected circumstances beyond my control (mechanical failure and black ice). And had I not been wearing a helmet maybe I'd be here, maybe not. I'm quite confident that in both instances my Giro Atmos helmet (since replaced with a brandy new one) saved my noggin from serious injury. In the first crash I was knocked unconscious so I'm not sure what happened, but my helmet took quite a shot. In the second crash my Atmos bounced off the tarmac like a handball at high speed. Thankfully it was the Giro taking that shot, NOT my HEAD. God, this is a stupid conversation. Just wear your helmets you weenies.

By the way, I have more riding miles/experience than 90%+ of the people here, so don't even GO there. I know what I'm doing. **** happens no matter how good/experienced a rider you think you are. Trust me.

Your move. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by SirScott
What happened? Any side effects?
It was my fault. I was on a new bike that has deep rims and there was a crosswind. I took my hands off the bars to stretch and down I went.

Luckily my left knee and shoulder took the brunt of the fall. When my head hit it felt like my brain was jello in my head and upon opening my eyes I had tunnel vision and everything was fuzzy for a couple of seconds.

I wear a helmet even if I am riding 1 block now. I don't have insurance when I am not racing and my head is worth a lot to me. It's a small precaution that takes less than 5 seconds to do and if people are willing to buy a sweet looking racing helmet, they look pretty sweet!
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And for the record - I realize that even if I had been wearing a helmet I would have had the tunnel vision and fuzziness, but I was only cruising at about 15mph at the time. I'm convinced that a few more MPH and my skull would have cracked.
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>>I wear a helmet even if I am riding 1 block now. I don't have insurance when I am not racing and my head is worth a lot to me<<

Duh.

Actually I can understand motorcyclists aversion to helmets more than bicyclists (I ride both, wear helmets for both). Ever wear an M/C helmet? Bicycle helmets weigh 1/20 as much and you can forget you have it on. Not so for a motorcycle helmet. Either way my noggin takes precedence. Period.
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M/C helmets also have to withstand impacts of 70+mph.

I never notice my bicycle helmet. It's a Bell Ghiasallo. I imagine higher end ones like a Catlike would be even nicer.
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