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Old 03-08-06, 05:20 PM
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Hi all, I'd appreciate some advice or ideas.

I'm planning some training rides through upstate N.Y. farm country -- pretty snowy right now but in the summertime it's absolutely gorgeous. But having worked on a couple farms I can tell ya that there are a LOT of dogs out there, and they tend to look at bikers like Meals-on-Wheels...

I'm wondering what people use for pooch-repellant.

Lethal force is out. Anything not countenanced by homeland security is out. Anything the SPCA would frown upon is out.

Commerical products or homemade remedies are welcome (I'm thinking along the lines of ammonia in a squirt bottle, although I guess yelling, water bottle dowsing, or tire pump thumping would count)

:EDIT - Oh, and having Dick Cheney ride shotgun is DEFINITELY OUT

thanks a lot,
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Old 03-08-06, 05:24 PM
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Spray them in the face with your water bottle.

Also, yelling "STAY" or your choice of word in an extremely loud commanding way will generally make them stop. I've never had a dog actually get close enough to do damage when I was on my bike.


(spraying them in the face is helluva fun BTW)
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Old 03-08-06, 06:09 PM
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I'm a proponent of using the frame pump on the dog.
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Old 03-08-06, 06:15 PM
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I use Pepper Spray. After a couple of shot in the face they learn to leave you alone. It is not harmful in any way, just gets there attention.
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Old 03-08-06, 06:25 PM
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If you see the dog coming towards you, slow your speed down a bit. then right before it gets to you gun it. They have trouble following the shift in velocity, and will continue chasing you at your slow speed.

Learned that at the MSF course, works just as well on a cycle
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Old 03-08-06, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Philatio
If you see the dog coming towards you, slow your speed down a bit. then right before it gets to you gun it. They have trouble following the shift in velocity, and will continue chasing you at your slow speed.

Learned that at the MSF course, works just as well on a cycle
Unless you're climbing...

If I can't do the slow down, speed up method detailed above I yell something along the lines of "STAY" or "BAD DOG" finally I'll use the water bottle. If that doesn't work, and it's a long uphill I'll dismount, put the bike between me and the dog and motion with it as though I'm going to smack fido. Usually gets them to go away.
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Old 03-08-06, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Unless you're climbing...
hmm good point lol, I've never run into that situation so far
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Old 03-08-06, 06:46 PM
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I have a ton of dogs where I ride and wound up having to buy pepper spray. Usually your lbs will have some just for dogs. It's not as potent as say, something you'd use to subdue a meth freak. The one I have has a nice little clip on it so it fits snuggly in my jersey pocket.
Yelling 'stay' just doesn't seem to work. If these dogs are under the understanding that chasing you is part of protecting their home (can't blame 'em) then the spray is the only thing they understand. Farm dogs can are used to chasing deer and all sorts of things, and are not easily thrown off.
Oh, and if the owner sees you doing it and gets all angry, spray them to for being such irresponsible jack-a$$es and not tying up the poor things in the first place.
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Old 03-08-06, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
I'll dismount, put the bike between me and the dog and motion with it as though I'm going to smack fido. Usually gets them to go away.
I did this once. Usually I just sprint away from dogs, but this one looked like a beast. Looked damn near 100 lbs and athletic and fast looking. I didn't want to risk a chase, since he looked rather fast. I stopped, got off the bike and used it to block him. This really confused him. I proceeded to walk in my desired direction holding the bike between us until he lost interest.
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Old 03-08-06, 08:44 PM
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Today I hit a dog! Nothing would have avoided the encounter other than me stopping, getting off the bike and walking by it.

I was on the 30th mile of my ride only 500 feet from my door climbing a steep grade (ie. I was standing and pumping- and tired)!

A guy was walking two dogs on those variable length leash contraptions. He saw me coming and moved to the side with his dogs but he forgot to LOCK THE LEASH EXTENDERS!!!!!

So as I rode by him and his dogs, at the very last second one of the dogs (a ****zu I think) jumped out in front of my front wheel barking his head off. I had absolutley zero seconds to avoid this.

When I was 3 feet from the dog, he was absolutely frozen watching me approach. I NEVER expected him to jump out infront of me.

After planting my tire directly into the dog's side causing me to nearly run over it but causing me to loose control and fall the guy says, "I guess ya' got one of them."

I was soooooooooooooooooooooooo pi$$ed! Scraped side of knee, scratched Ultegra brifter lever. No other damage. Well, maybe the dog has bruised rib.

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Old 03-08-06, 08:44 PM
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How 'bout carrying a few milk bones in your pocket? That's what mailmen, ups guys, etc. do. Or you could use some 2-sided tape to stick them to your top tube for quicker access. (Then they'll be your friend for life!)
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Old 03-08-06, 08:48 PM
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I hope you got his info. Cuz you were about to sell that bike, and now the value has gone down due to the bruised shifter, cuz who wants to buy a damaged bike, so he'd better compensate you , right?
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Old 03-08-06, 09:02 PM
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I thought long and hard about this.

Pepper spray won't work in the wind - potential to really Pi55 off the owner
Water bottle - not that scarry - plus I only carry one
Jump off my bike and talk firmly - I'm not that kind of guy
bike pump - too expensive to bend on a dog's head.

So I bought a small disposable air horn that runs on CO2 cartidges at Wal-Mart for 6.00. It fits in my jersey pocket, you can use it with one hand, you don't have to stop riding, you don't have to be coordinated to use it, no visible signs of an altercation to explain away to mr nasty owner.

I have yet to use it on fido, but I'm pretty confident because it scares the $%^ out of me.
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Old 03-08-06, 09:13 PM
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Shout in a clear, loud, firm voice "GET OFF THE COUCH! HAVEN'T I TOLD YOU BEFORE TO STAY OFF THE COUCH!!!!" The confused dog thinks to itself "…er, um, uh - what the hell… couch? what couch?…" and hesitates, allowing you ample time to escape. If that doesn't work, then the dog gets the ammonia right in their doggy face…

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Old 03-08-06, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dekalbSTEEL
How 'bout carrying a few milk bones in your pocket? That's what mailmen, ups guys, etc. do. Or you could use some 2-sided tape to stick them to your top tube for quicker access. (Then they'll be your friend for life!)
I'm afraid that i'll get confused as to what pocket has the powerbars and which has the milk bones in it.
Only problem I see is that now they are going to be expecting handouts from all the riders.

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Who once got chased by a basset hound, it wasn't pretty
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Cop strength pepper spray.

Get the "stream" style, and not the "fog" style to help avoid blowback from wind. I've used this before while riding, on dogs up to and including German shepards and pit bulls, and it's never failed to stop the dog instantly. It doesn't seem to hurt them, but they immediately lose all interest in the attack (typically, they start rubbing their noses in the grass due to the irritation).

I'm not at all worried about an owner's reaction to me spraying their dog - I only do it if the dog is being agressive and closing in on me.

The cop strength pepper spray also provides a bit of assurance in case of a confrontation with a two-legged varmint...fortunately, I've never had to use it on a person, but it's comforting to know it's there just in case.

Note: it's also important to report dog attacks to animal control, especially so for repeat offenders. I've had pretty good luck with local authorities - they'll file a report and contact the owner and give them a warning. That way, the dog's history is on file, and the owner will have less recourse if their dog does hurt someone.

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Old 03-09-06, 12:27 AM
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Last time a dog was on me, I was lucky and finishing a powerbar... I threw it at him, and by some stroke of luck he realized what it was went for it and I made my getaway! But I wouldn't count on that working with most dogs...
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I hate dogs when I'm on the bike. My last encounter = pitbull + horizontal trackstand + couldn't unclip.

If someone hadn't showed up and laid on the horn to scare the dog i don't know what would happen.
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I have dogs and like dogs, but I'm thinking about taking some of the wife's pepper spray for one particularly nasty dog that lives along my regular route. I'd be doing the mutt a favor by discouraging him from chasing cyclists, as otherwise the habit may one day get him killed.

By the way, rickkko, I would have had difficulty not slugging that dog-walker. When a dog gets hurt or causes trouble like that, people will blame the dog or a third party, but it is the owner's responsibility to keep a dumb animal out of trouble.
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Originally Posted by dekalbSTEEL
How 'bout carrying a few milk bones in your pocket? That's what mailmen, ups guys, etc. do. Or you could use some 2-sided tape to stick them to your top tube for quicker access. (Then they'll be your friend for life!)
I don't like the idea of training the dog to come to riders for a handout. The danger from dogs is not getting bitten, its that the dog will cause a wreck. I don't think you want to encourage the dog to run up to you or a group of riders. A dog in the middle of the peleton is not a good thing.
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Old 03-09-06, 08:45 AM
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Yelling doesn't always work (almost never back in Indiana), and neither does squirting them in the face with water. To me using water is a terrible idea because you never know how many dogs you're going to want to squirt and water is one of your most precious resources out there on the road. Why waste it on dogs?

I find that the best thing to do is just keep your line and play along. It's rare that a dog wants to bite you. Most of them are just looking for a race.

I think Halt is one of the more popular sprays. You might keep some of that on you just in case.
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What about lemon or lime juice in a small spray bottle. One of those ones that will spray a concentrated stream 5 or 6 feet?
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99 dog chases out of 100 around here begin at the bottom of a long hill - Murphy's Law, I guess.

I've never been really concerned about being bitten, just crashed. I never really worry too much about one, either. It's when you've got two or three weaving all around that causes problems. I got chased by three regulars yesterday that I am beginning to really hate. Two were in the grass along side. The other was in the oncoming lane. A car came around a curve, and I was hoping like heck he would get hit, but the car stopped.

I've never resorted to using spray because I'm a dog person. I'd be more apt to stop, go knock on the owner's door and spray them.
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As a long time dog owner, I can tell you that dogs hate anything citrus. Our dog trainer uses citron spray to train dogs. I don't why they do, they just do.

We used it on a dog who had a habit of nibbling on plants - it worked wonders.

So, lemon in a water bottle should do it. And hey, lemon in water tastes good.

Oh, and dogs hate anything sprayed in their face. Water from your bottle will do it just fine.
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