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Portis 03-17-06 05:51 PM

This bike is light.
 
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/articles.php?ID=21

rufvelo 03-17-06 05:58 PM


When he does find time to ride it, it will pick up some dust, thereby gaining weight and ruining everything. :)

Portis 03-17-06 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by rufvelo
When he does find time to ride it, it will pick up some dust, thereby gaining weight and ruining everything. :)


Picking up dust might double it's weight.

Patriot 03-17-06 06:20 PM

Actually, there's one that weighs around 8.0lbs made with optimized Record components, and a new '06 Ghisallo frame. I think I saw a pic of it from the interbike show.

Roadie Rob 03-17-06 06:20 PM

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The build may be suitable for riding in a vaccuum chamber or possibly on a track (less the 7-speed cluster). I found that anything under 17 starts to lose stability. I have a 17.2 titanium which is perfect , a 16.3 alloy-carbon which rides OK, a 15.6 (S-Works) which is "skiddish" at best, and my Colorado climbing bike (Calfee Tetra) at 14 lbs. 13 oz. which is AWESOME for climbing miles into the atmosphere but an absolute B!&*CH to hold a line when descending. The thing gets so loose on switchbacks and crosswinds that it is almost unreasonable to ride. On flats against the wind, there is no momentum to carry the wheels forward. Heck, flats WITH the wind is almost too much of an effort to keep the cranks turning.

The pic with the scale is without pedals (13 lbs. 15 oz.).

banerjek 03-17-06 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by rufvelo
When he does find time to ride it, it will pick up some dust, thereby gaining weight and ruining everything. :)

It ain't for riding -- otherwise, weight of lube should be listed (after all, weight of air in the tires is mentioned)

thewalrus 03-17-06 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Patriot
Actually, there's one that weighs around 8.0lbs made with optimized Record components, and a new '06 Ghisallo frame. I think I saw a pic of it from the interbike show.

7.9 pound 2006 Ghisallo

http://www.fairwheelbikes.com/gallery/vicm2.html

Personally I would not attempt to ride it, it would probably flex like a noodle, and then I'd break the wheelset. I weigh 170 and my pedaling style tends towards mashing.

With enough money I could probably build a 14.0 pound bike I would trust completely. Scott CR1 SL frame, Lightweight wheels, tuned Record, etc.

http://www.fairwheelbikes.com/images/m2bike.jpg

rufvelo 03-17-06 06:23 PM

Things were so much simpler in the good ole days...

...all you had to do to look like you had a fast bike was drill a few holes in the brake levers

...frame sizing, you just threw a leg over the bike and if you didn't get hurt too bad, that was one fine bicycle. :)

thewalrus 03-17-06 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by rufvelo
Things were so much simpler in the good ole days...

...all you had to do to look like you had a fast bike was drill a few holes in the brake levers

If you really wanted to, you could probably drill holes in Record carbon brake levers... :D

2manybikes 03-17-06 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Patriot
Actually, there's one that weighs around 8.0lbs made with optimized Record components, and a new '06 Ghisallo frame. I think I saw a pic of it from the interbike show.

There was a forum thread about it a while back and the owner of the bike was posting about the bike. There was also an article about it in Velo News. It weighs half as much as my Ghisalo !!!!!!!!

DocRay 03-18-06 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by thewalrus
7.9 pound 2006 Ghisallo

http://www.fairwheelbikes.com/gallery/vicm2.html

Personally I would not attempt to ride it, it would probably flex like a noodle, and then I'd break the wheelset. I weigh 170 and my pedaling style tends towards mashing.

With enough money I could probably build a 14.0 pound bike I would trust completely. Scott CR1 SL frame, Lightweight wheels, tuned Record, etc.

http://www.fairwheelbikes.com/images/m2bike.jpg

Several European testers refer to the Ghisallo as a novelty bike, with very unstable handling. NR above 160 lbs.
Those weightweenie guys don't really ride their bikes, and when they have 4 page threads about handlebar tape weight, I cannot take them seriously.

CdCf 03-18-06 09:10 AM

I love the "air+tire glue ca. 20g" followed by the one tenth gram precision! :D

pinky 03-18-06 09:13 AM

Except pro's post at weightweenies and not here...

55/Rad 03-18-06 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by Roadie Rob
...and my Colorado climbing bike (Calfee Tetra) at 14 lbs. 13 oz. which is AWESOME for climbing miles into the atmosphere but an absolute B!&*CH to hold a line when descending. The thing gets so loose on switchbacks and crosswinds that it is almost unreasonable to ride. On flats against the wind, there is no momentum to carry the wheels forward. Heck, flats WITH the wind is almost too much of an effort to keep the cranks turning.

You just described my 15 pound Santana to a tee. Great up, lousy down.

That all changed when I pulled the AC 350's in favor of some 1500 gram Mike Garcia customs. Sure, it wasn't 15.0 anymore, but it wasn't much more. And I could go downhill with a lot more confidence.

55/Rad

Patriot 03-18-06 09:14 AM

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My Trinity bike weighs just a hair under 15lbs with no accessories (cages, computer, wedge, etc). I could easily have myself a 14# bike if I was to install all of my components on a CR-1 frame with only a few component changes.

I have actually thought of doing this, just for the heck of it. The one thing that stops me is the fact that I love the paint job I did on this frame. :D

thewalrus 03-18-06 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by CdCf
I love the "air+tire glue ca. 20g" followed by the one tenth gram precision! :D

only one tenth? here's a scale accurate to 1/100th of a gram

:p :p :p

http://www.scalenet.com/sartorius/gp...light2w400.jpg

DocRay 03-18-06 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by pinky
Except pro's post at weightweenies and not here...

pros don't ride 10 pound bikes

pelotonracer 03-18-06 10:30 AM

I think he means pro weight weenies.

briscoelab 03-18-06 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by pelotonracer
I think he means pro weight weenies.

No, he meant real Pros. There are several Pros that post on weightweenies. Not to mention one of the owners of Cervelo... the Lightweight guys (carbonsports)... Lightspeed... Zero Gravity.. the list keeps on going. Sure some of the stuff like seeing how much tire glue and air adds to weight of tubulars is kinda silly... But, if you dig through some of the nonsense, there is a TON of really good info on that forum. Especially about highend products that area always fun to read about.

thewalrus 03-18-06 10:57 AM

I saved this photo from weight weenies, it's a bike owned by a belgian pro...

notice it's built closer to 17.5 pounds with normal componentry - no crazy light frames, derailleurs, carbon chainrings, etc.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...teamsc12xc.jpg

DocRay 03-18-06 11:00 AM

^^^yummy


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