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Old 04-02-06, 11:30 PM
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I know that this bike HAS been discussed on this fourm in the past, but here's my question: My sister who is a ver fit runner got turned onto cycling last year by her "bigger" brother because she continued to have foot and hip issues from being primarily a 26 mile marathon runner. She went cheap and bought a K2 with lower level Shimano. Now, a year later she wishes that she listened to her gear head brother and bought a "better" bike. She went shopping and found a Giant TCR with either Ultegra 10 or Centaur 10 discounted for about $2300. Big brother tells her that she will probably like either group but go with Campy... Other than the Mavic Ksyrum Elite wheels, I don' known what else is on this bike. I am a titanium guy and have never riden the Giant. My only experience with carbon fiber bikes is Kestrel, and, well, they are great bikes - no questions ask. For the $2300 and with those wheels, this sounds like a pretty good deal. I think that this bike should be selling for about $2700 or more. What are your experiences with the TCR? Worth the investment? She is 5'3" and about 115 pounds so an aluminum frame is probably too stiff. A super stiff carbon frame will also be a bit much for her. Personally, I was thinking the Blue CF-4 but it can't be had with that mix of parts for that price.
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I know a lot of people who have the TCR in various configurations and have been very happy with the value.

I even tried a TCR myself, but I found the TT length much too long for me even in the small frame size. I'm 5'3" and found the XS frame had everything too small but a reach that might have worked...the S frame fit in other respects but the reach was way beyond what would have worked regardless of stem length.

It may or may not work depending on her arm length. Do check it out because those bikes are a good value, but the fit doesn't work for everyone. The guy at my LBS even said that himself.
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Old 04-03-06, 12:54 AM
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ps. I noticed your location is in Logan. Do you know of anyone who has done LOTOJA personally? I'm trying to get more information on it. I have been to the website, but I'd like to get more details from someone who has actually ridden it.
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I say go for the TCR (if it fits obvioulsy). And have her go for Ultegra (if it's full ultegra).

I'm not interested in starting a flame war, but as far as i'm concerned, there's no way in he|| that Centaur is better than Ultegra.

One thing which would make this easier, is to know what year and model she's looking at?



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I know that this bike HAS been discussed on this fourm in the past, but here's my question: My sister who is a ver fit runner got turned onto cycling last year by her "bigger" brother because she continued to have foot and hip issues from being primarily a 26 mile marathon runner. She went cheap and bought a K2 with lower level Shimano. Now, a year later she wishes that she listened to her gear head brother and bought a "better" bike. She went shopping and found a Giant TCR with either Ultegra 10 or Centaur 10 discounted for about $2300. Big brother tells her that she will probably like either group but go with Campy... Other than the Mavic Ksyrum Elite wheels, I don' known what else is on this bike. I am a titanium guy and have never riden the Giant. My only experience with carbon fiber bikes is Kestrel, and, well, they are great bikes - no questions ask. For the $2300 and with those wheels, this sounds like a pretty good deal. I think that this bike should be selling for about $2700 or more. What are your experiences with the TCR? Worth the investment? She is 5'3" and about 115 pounds so an aluminum frame is probably too stiff. A super stiff carbon frame will also be a bit much for her. Personally, I was thinking the Blue CF-4 but it can't be had with that mix of parts for that price.
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Old 04-03-06, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by botto
there's no way in he|| that Centaur is better than Ultegra.
Even as someone who's only run Shimano on my roadbikes, I have to roll my eyes at this one.
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I've been in your situation. My wife is 5'2.25" (that 1/4" is VERY important....)

The TCR XS should fit just fine. But it is stiff... At 115lbs. she will feel it. Stiff doesn't necessarily mean bad though as it does climb really, really nicely. After a year on the Giant, we bought her a second bike, Orbea Dama Race. That's a bike I would highly recommend you to take a look at! Super comfortable, lighter than the Giant (!) and just as stiff without giving up the comfort.

https://www.orbea-usa.com/fly.aspx?mI...duct&taxId=232
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Originally Posted by Fox Farm
I know that this bike HAS been discussed on this fourm in the past, but here's my question: My sister who is a ver fit runner got turned onto cycling last year by her "bigger" brother because she continued to have foot and hip issues from being primarily a 26 mile marathon runner. She went cheap and bought a K2 with lower level Shimano. Now, a year later she wishes that she listened to her gear head brother and bought a "better" bike. She went shopping and found a Giant TCR with either Ultegra 10 or Centaur 10 discounted for about $2300. Big brother tells her that she will probably like either group but go with Campy... Other than the Mavic Ksyrum Elite wheels, I don' known what else is on this bike. I am a titanium guy and have never riden the Giant. My only experience with carbon fiber bikes is Kestrel, and, well, they are great bikes - no questions ask. For the $2300 and with those wheels, this sounds like a pretty good deal. I think that this bike should be selling for about $2700 or more. What are your experiences with the TCR? Worth the investment? She is 5'3" and about 115 pounds so an aluminum frame is probably too stiff. A super stiff carbon frame will also be a bit much for her. Personally, I was thinking the Blue CF-4 but it can't be had with that mix of parts for that price.
That Giant TCR with Ultegra sounds like a full price TCR C2.

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/030...sp?model=11255

I'd go for this instead (also Ultegra), but then upgrade the wheels.

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/030...sp?model=11444

Giant also has a line of women's bikes

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/030...30.000.500.asp
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as someone who has both shimano and (admittedly old) campy, i ask - why?

Originally Posted by seely
Even as someone who's only run Shimano on my roadbikes, I have to roll my eyes at this one.
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Old 04-03-06, 03:22 AM
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Trek has some women specific carbon bikes i beleive, probably in the sub 3 grand range. Just thought i'd mention it.
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Your sister sorta sounds like me... ex-marathoner, except I've had knee problems; turned to cycling; bought a K2; bought a TCR C2 last October.

The TCR has been a great bike for me. I've had zero problems with it, except that with the mileage I've done on it, I've worn out a cable set already and have replaced the chain once.
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Old 04-03-06, 12:27 PM
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I'll second the potential fit issues with Giant sizing. I'm 5'4, owned a Giant TCR2 S, had too long a TT and a XS felt cramped. If it fits well, definately go for it, they're a solid frame with some great acceleration. In the end though, it was too much stretching out for me and I sold it for a Cannondale with traditional sizing.

If you can find any deals on the Cannondale Feminine series (R700 and R1000), I'd recommend them.
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FWIW, I've got an '04 Giant TCR Comp 1 (CF with a mixed Ultegra/DA gruppo) that I've absolutely pounded on: USCF racing, randonneuring events, ultra-marathon racing, qualifying for RAAM, club rides, some urban commuting, etc. You name it, I've done it on this bike. It's been good to me in every respect imaginable. I'm still running the original Ksyrum Elite wheelset, which is completely true and balanced after more than 15,000 miles and a heckuva lot of rough road (including way more gravel than anyone should ever ride).

Only complaint -- if I had to cook one up -- would be that it's a little flexy for me when it comes to finish-line sprints (it's a large, and I'm 6'1" and 170lbs.). Wouldn't think that'd be a problem for her in the smaller size.
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Originally Posted by Snicklefritz
ps. I noticed your location is in Logan. Do you know of anyone who has done LOTOJA personally? I'm trying to get more information on it. I have been to the website, but I'd like to get more details from someone who has actually ridden it.
Good question. I was going to ride it last year and FORTUNATELY I was out of the country and could not. It was a total disaster with a freak snow storm that rolled in and left many people sitting on the side of the road with hypothermia. A few people that I do know who rode it and finished it called it one of the most burly experiences ever. They said that they were colder waiting to be saved rather than just riding to keep warm. It was so cold that you had to stop and piss out your liquid all the time since your body would not sweat it out. Whereas the support for this event is typically excellent, the point on the pass where cyclists were dropping like flies and needed to be rescued was a total mess because it was out of the jurisdiction of one EMS crew (they stupidly refused to come up the mountain) and the other could not handle the demand. There is more to this story and I am not the one to recount all the nasty details. It was unfortunate though because some years ago, while riding the Assault on Mt. Mitchell in NC, the event organizers quickly recognized the bad weather problem that rolled in unexpectedly and ran out and rented three Ryder rental trucks with the packing quilts and we all wrapped our selves up in the back waiting for the snow to stop. Send me your email and I will forward it on to a friend who did ride LOTOJA, and has a few times prior to last year. Last year, he ended up hospitalized with sever hypothermia and was totally shot for a few months afterwards. Again, it was a freat weather event because the day prior, it was hot and sunny.

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At 5'3" your sister would be a borderline case for a 650c wheeled bike so I would reccomend checking them out at least. RoboCheme posted a link to the Giant womens specific bikes and I noticed that they now make 650c bikes for the American market at least. We don't have them in Australia yet. Anyway the 2XS looks quite good on paper. Given a 74º seat tube angle its top tube length is actualy usefuly shorter than the XS 700c model which has a 75º ST angle and you can get the 650c frames as TCR's so its an option worth looking at.

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Also the 700c WS TCR bikes are worth considering over the regular models.

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Originally Posted by audiojan
I've been in your situation. My wife is 5'2.25" (that 1/4" is VERY important....)

The TCR XS should fit just fine. But it is stiff... At 115lbs. she will feel it. Stiff doesn't necessarily mean bad though as it does climb really, really nicely. After a year on the Giant, we bought her a second bike, Orbea Dama Race. That's a bike I would highly recommend you to take a look at! Super comfortable, lighter than the Giant (!) and just as stiff without giving up the comfort.
We are looking for a new bike for my wife also and she rode an Orbea Mitis Dama. This appears to be the same bike, but with a step down in component level. She also tried a Trek TCT 5000 WSD. In her opinion, the Orbea rode better. I'm surprised, but I trust her judgement as she has been riding a long time. Some things just are not the way you think they would be...
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Originally Posted by audiojan
I've been in your situation. My wife is 5'2.25" (that 1/4" is VERY important....)

The TCR XS should fit just fine. But it is stiff... At 115lbs. she will feel it. Stiff doesn't necessarily mean bad though as it does climb really, really nicely. After a year on the Giant, we bought her a second bike, Orbea Dama Race. That's a bike I would highly recommend you to take a look at! Super comfortable, lighter than the Giant (!) and just as stiff without giving up the comfort.

https://www.orbea-usa.com/fly.aspx?mI...duct&taxId=232

I'm suprised that the Obrea Dama Race is lighter than the TCR - since the frame/fork weights would make the Dama Race the heavier bike... but I'm guessing the Dama Race was more expensive and had higher end wheels/components?
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Thanks every one for feedback and comments. I forwarded this link to my sister and this was her reply:

This is so cool! I could definitely get hooked on this kind of chat group. The Giant I'm checking out is a C1 level, they're top of the line. And, ahem, I weigh 105. I do wonder about the reach on the xtra small frame, I'll have to try it since it was too rainy to try that day.
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2300$ for a tcr comp1 is a great price.

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Thanks every one for feedback and comments. I forwarded this link to my sister and this was her reply:

This is so cool! I could definitely get hooked on this kind of chat group. The Giant I'm checking out is a C1 level, they're top of the line. And, ahem, I weigh 105. I do wonder about the reach on the xtra small frame, I'll have to try it since it was too rainy to try that day.
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