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Have any of you RIDDEN one of those weight weenies project bikes?

Old 04-05-06, 12:38 PM
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Have any of you RIDDEN one of those weight weenies project bikes?

I'm fascinated (and what self respecting or loathing bike weenie wouldn't be?) by those weight weenies project bikes, some of which are sub-12 pounds. That is rather astonishing. My bike is 16.5 lbs after $1500 in upgrades, and to get it down to 15.5 would require another $2000 or so. That's a lot of dough to save grams boy.

A NINE POUND road bike? Yup. That's the lightest one there. Amazing. Anyone ever RIDE one of these? How fragile (or not) are these gossamer grinders?

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/ar...gory=roadbikes

Read it and weep (no Kleenex allowed, too heavy).
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Not to sound harsh but wouldn't it be easier, cheaper, and more enjoyable to just take a crap or go on a diet to lose that 1 lb?
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I've ridden a 12.9oz bike that my shop built out of a Time VXRS. It was stiff and fast and very very expensive.
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I guess you haven't seen this: https://www.m2racer.com/info.php?entry=bike
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I rode a 14.8 lb bike that a friend owns. It's nice, but honestly.... the bike had a barely noticeable difference in responsiveness over my 17 lb CF Trek. If money were no object and I raced seriously or for a living...then I could understand it. But, if it makes someone happy...it's better than a crack addiction!
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Originally Posted by 2Rodies
I've ridden a 12.9oz bike that my shop built out of a Time VXRS. It was stiff and fast and very very expensive.
12.9 ounces! wow.
 
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Originally Posted by rubber_souls
I guess you haven't seen this: https://www.m2racer.com/info.php?entry=bike
No way would I take that downhill. The BB and head on the Ghisallo has been tested to be the most flexible of all the lightweight frames.
Pros don't play these games, becuase they know that what goes up a hill must come down.
 
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I remember years ago reading about some guy (I think that he was French) who, over a period of a few weeks, ate a whole bicycle (this was earlier on in the 20th century), I guess that he was trying to make a name for himself. The bike probably weighed 25 lb.

The task would be much easier now!
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Originally Posted by DocRay
12.9 ounces! wow.
Aerogel with a carbon fiber weave.
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Originally Posted by DocRay
12.9 ounces! wow.
Yep uber light, made of unobtainium CF. It's a proprietary weave that only Time uses, why do you think Boonen is so fast!


OK smart guy 12lbs 9oz!
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Maybe its just me but I think some of those super lightweight bikes are kinda ugly. I think they look too stripped down...almost like someone just stuck some random parts they had laying around on it.

That being said, if someone wanted to give me one of those...
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Originally Posted by 2Rodies
I've ridden a 12.9oz bike that my shop built out of a Time VXRS. It was stiff and fast and very very expensive.
HOW expensive???
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Originally Posted by Ant
Not to sound harsh but wouldn't it be easier, cheaper, and more enjoyable to just take a crap or go on a diet to lose that 1 lb?
No matter how many times we post threads about ELS (Expensive Lightweight ****) there will always be a response like this one. And it is our karma as weight weenies to endure it.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
HOW expensive???

I cant' remember the exact price but it was over 10k. The bikes build was something like this:

Time VRXS frame 54cm
Record Carbon/Carbon cranks
Time/seat post/stem
Reynolds Cirrus wheelset w/record ti cassette 11/21

I can't remember the seat or bars and I think the brakes were Canecreeks but I'm not sure. I know they weren't zeroG's because they wanted the bike to actually stop.
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Originally Posted by Ant
Not to sound harsh but wouldn't it be easier, cheaper, and more enjoyable to just take a crap or go on a diet to lose that 1 lb?
Well, it depends where you're taking the weight from. If the weight is coming off the wheels, then given the greater impact of rotational weight (and assuming you want to climb hills), you're better off taking the weight from the wheels. (Also, losing the weight through a diet offers one BIG challenge - how do you lose the weight withOUT losing any power? Not easy when you're already in good shape)
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I could shave 20 pounds off... by dieting. Saving a pound or two on a bike doesn't sound all that great when you figure the total of the bike and rider are still somewhere around 200 lb.
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Making a bike light is a sport in and of itself. It's very similar to the "sport" of the loudest car stereo (wherein the doors of the car are filled with concrete to hold in the bass, etc) or the "sport" of the highest car horsepower on the dynamometer. At some point it stops being an actual car and starts being something else. Same with the really light bikes. Not that there's anything wrong with it. It's no more stupid a hobby than, say, collecting little sticky-backed paper rectangles aka stamps.

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Originally Posted by rubber_souls
I guess you haven't seen this: https://www.m2racer.com/info.php?entry=bike
And how does it ride for anyone over 130 lb? To find out w/o parting with >10 grand, go buy a slinky®.
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I'd love to just to see what I'm missing.
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Originally Posted by donrhummy
Originally Posted by Ant
Not to sound harsh but wouldn't it be easier, cheaper, and more enjoyable to just take a crap or go on a diet to lose that 1 lb?
Well, it depends where you're taking the weight from. If the weight is coming off the wheels, then given the greater impact of rotational weight (and assuming you want to climb hills), you're better off taking the weight from the wheels.
I disagree. You'll ride a lot better and further more comfortably if you take a dump than you will holding it in and riding lighter wheels.
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6 lbs, I win!!

 
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Originally Posted by DocRay
6 lbs, I win!!


Nice vest....you sir are one snappy dresser!
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EDIT: response was for zimbo. Didn't know 4 people were going to reply at the same time.

^ lol, that's true. BOTH is always the winner in an either/or debate. But it does matter how you are taking off the weight. My first racing bike was a hand-me-down Centurion Ironman my dad gave me when he built up his Merckx. That 26 lb, downtube shifting steel contraption sprinted like no other bike I rode after that. My 18 lb OCLV with titanium this and aluminum that flexed and lost way too much power. The 20 lb aluminum bike I got after that (keeping all the weight weenie things from the OCLV) was better, but I still felt stronger and rode faster on the steel thing. No wonder I'm back to riding steel, it just feels better.

On a side note, I don't know if I'd feel comfortable on such a light bike. If my 18 lb bike was whippy and flexy, I can only imagine what a 12 lb bike would be like.
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Originally Posted by banerjek
I disagree. You'll ride a lot better and further more comfortably if you take a dump than you will holding it in and riding lighter wheels.
I totaly agree...and it is a lot easier to take a dumb before you ride then to upgrade your bike with lighter parts ...simple as that
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Originally Posted by banerjek
I disagree. You'll ride a lot better and further more comfortably if you take a dump than you will holding it in and riding lighter wheels.
No way. Needing to take a dump will make me get home faster!
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