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Serpico 04-11-06 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad
Because the idiot factor on this forum is beyond calculation.


:beer: looks like someone else is getting sick of "Which color jersey should I buy" and "One of my pedals must be stripped, I can't get it to thread" posts

mantis 04-11-06 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by edzo
well this post is completely wrong.

Trek became the biggest, despite the name. I hope you aren't in marketing
because with your ideas, companies might tank.


I mean...really think about what you said...it is your opinion. The masses
have voted by buying more Trek bikes/margins than any other brand before
Giant took over in the last 2 years.


sheesh

Actually, I never said they were not successful. All I said was that I believe the name has held them back from where they possibly could be. I would say the same about Volkswagen, they build a great product, but there is resistance, IMO, to the line becuse of the name "peoples car", that Honda or Toyota does not have to contend with.

Dave

cs1 04-11-06 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad
Because the idiot factor on this forum is beyond calculation.

+1

SDRider 04-11-06 07:30 AM

I looked at Trek bikes last summer when I was contemplating getting back into cycling but then decided to go with Felt. I've since ditched the Felt for a used LOOK CF bike and I have a steel LeMond Zurich as well.

There are better values for your money.

mingsta 04-11-06 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by thewalrus
Is Fisher seen as more of a uncommon boutique brand in the UK? Shops in WA state sell the full range from $350-$3000.

Back in the day, Gary Fisher was probably regarded in the same ballpark as Specialized - good mid range brand. Gary Fisher has all but died out over here, you very rarely see one reviewed in a UK MTB mag or out on the trails nowadays.

lotek 04-11-06 08:05 AM

actually the name TREK is from the Afrikaans
as in voortreker. Go back and read the history of Trek,
Bevel Hogg and Richard Burke came up with the name.
Hogg (south african) originally chose "Kestrel", Burke
chose Intrepid, they settled on Trek due to it's being internationally
recognizable.


Marty

55/Rad 04-11-06 08:09 AM

Treks are gud.

baj32161 04-11-06 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by UmneyDurak
.....and I had a bad experience with one of their rep. F*king incompetent a@@#$@#$ :mad:

I have told this story before...it happened to me last summer. I once bonked on a ride in Philadelphia near the shop where I purchased my LeMond (a Trek shop). I staggered into the shop..it was very hot that day...and kind of wobbled around for a bit. The guys at the shop asked me if I was okay and told me to sit down and cool off in the A/C for a while. Well the Trek rep was there doing his store presentation bit when he asked me about my bike and how I liked it. I told him I loved it. He then asked me if I was okay and I told him I would be fine in a bit. He then went out to lunch and got lunch for the guys in the shop. Then he tosses me a bag with a turkey sandwich, a banana and a quart of OJ.....gratis! You will NEVER hear me bash Trek or their reps. So the above opinion is strictly that of the above poster.....take it for what its worth.

Cheers,

Brian

a77impala 04-11-06 09:44 AM

If you don't like Trek don't buy one. It's just that simple and I won't degrade your choice and
hope you keep your opinion of my choice to yourself if we happen to meet on the road or trail.

Grimmreaper 04-11-06 10:10 AM

I have a Trek 1000 and the only thing I ever had a problem with was the rear wheel; due to my weight, I kept popping spokes, after replacing the wheels all is well again. I like my Trek 1000, it is a great entry level bike and I think it is so cool to ride with guys on the $2000 bikes and crush them when all I paid was $550 for mine.

In my opinion, Trek makes a great bike, people I have ridden with love the way their madones handle and I do not here to many complaints against any of the other Treks I see on the road either. I do think they are overpriced, (I guess they are still riding the Lance wave).

I plan to buy myself a Cannondale R800 or better (CAAD 8 frame) as present to myself after I drop my weight under 200 pounds. I think Cannondale bikes are every bit as good as the Trek, Cannondale bikes they are just better priced. I think the Cannondale R1000 is a great deal, I do not think Trek can currently match.

Cromulent 04-11-06 10:11 AM

My first "racing" road bike was a Trek 400 - 1989 model, downtube shifters, biopace ring... I loved it. I miss it. My first MTB was a Trek, my second is a Trek (though it's nowhere near as nice as the first one). My current road bike is a Specialized, which I love. It's a joy to ride (except for the Alex wheelset, which I'm convinced is made of paper mache and duct tape - the new wheels are coming this week).

I have to say that I don't dislike Trek. I like Trek a lot, actually, but I've sort of... fallen out of love with them. I dunno, maybe it was just a thing. But I don't get excited by the thought of a new Trek. A Lemond, maybe. A Cervelo, you betchya. A Specialized S-Works Tarmac? Drool. A Mercx? Oh yes. But the Madone? Yes, it's a great bike. But I'm just not all that into it. Sorry, Trek. Really... it's me, not you. I'm sure we'll stay good friends.

Cypress 04-11-06 10:21 AM

I refuse to pay $10,000 for a non-custom gimmick bike.

That's why.

iamtim 04-11-06 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Cypress
I refuse to pay $10,000 for a non-custom gimmick bike.

Yeah, I know. And the way they are forcing you to buy it is crazy!

Oh, wait, they aren't forcing you to buy it.

Sorry, my bad.

brunop 04-11-06 10:54 AM

i only ride custom steelies from independent boutique builders (INDEPENDENT FABRICATION and ANT BIKE MIKE). what is this "trek" thing :) :eek:

FLBandit 04-11-06 10:56 AM

I have a Lemond roadbike and a Trek Hybrid. I also have a Gary Fisher on layaway. These all come from the same LBS. I've been very impressed with the quality and service I've gotten from the Trek dealer in town.

Cypress 04-11-06 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by iamtim
Yeah, I know. And the way they are forcing you to buy it is crazy!

Oh, wait, they aren't forcing you to buy it.

Sorry, my bad.


Wouldn't you scoff at a $400,000 Ford Taurus?

bbattle 04-11-06 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by goldbam
Trek is run of the mill, way way way to ordinary. Even their madone has nothing on the best Giant, Bianchi, or Specialized bike. Bontrager really has nothing to do with trek though, they outfit many brands, similiar to ritchey or thompson... Personally, I would just rather have a much different bike than a trek.


So, to paraphrase Yogi Berra, Treks are so popular nobody buys them anymore.


And now Trek has their own track bike, the T1. This will further spoil the fun of the true fixie riders as all the train-jumping hipsters will be down at the coffee shop with their Treks.


I have nothing against Trek; they make great bicycles. I 've got a Trek Fuel 80, bought my wife a Trek hybrid then a 7.5FX. Test rode the 1000 and 1500 and they didn't feel right so I bought the Orbea. LBS has great service, too.

When I'm ready to pull the trigger on another bicycle I'll see what Trek has to offer, along with all the other brands for sale in town.

iamtim 04-11-06 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Cypress
Wouldn't you scoff at a $400,000 Ford Taurus?

Hey, if someone wants to throw down $400,000 for a Ford Taurus that's their deal, and kudos to Ford for such a highly profitable sale.

I certainly wouldn't buy a Taurus for $400k, and from the sounds of it neither would you. But if they can sell them at that price to other people, more power to them. Welcome to capitalist America.

cydewaze 04-11-06 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Cypress
Wouldn't you scoff at a $400,000 Ford Taurus?

If I could make that Taurus go as fast as my Cobra, and it had an amazing ride and a lifetime warranty, I don't think I'd be scoffing. Of course, I couldn't afford a $400,000 anything, but I suppose that's not the point.

But on the other side of the coin, what about the $400,000 Ferrari that didn't perform any better than the Taurus? It just had a fancy, exclusive-sounding name. Would any of us scoff at that?

Cypress 04-11-06 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by iamtim
Hey, if someone wants to throw down $400,000 for a Ford Taurus that's their deal, and kudos to Ford for such a highly profitable sale.

I certainly wouldn't buy a Taurus for $400k, and from the sounds of it neither would you. But if they can sell them at that price to other people, more power to them. Welcome to capitalist America.


I can't respect a company that gouges customers like that.

Cypress 04-11-06 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by cydewaze

But on the other side of the coin, what about the $400,000 Ferrari that didn't perform any better than the Taurus? It just had a fancy, exclusive-sounding name. Would any of us scoff at that?

Yes.

iamtim 04-11-06 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Cypress
I can't respect a company that gouges customers like that.

Hey, to each his own. But again, welcome to capitalist America. Trek -- as well as many other bike manufacturers -- have many, many bikes well under the $10,000 price point, and value is in the eye of the beholder. The market speaks for itself and if there is no call for a $10,000 bike from Trek, they'll be discontinuing it soon enough.

Psimet2001 04-11-06 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Cypress
Wouldn't you scoff at a $400,000 Ford Taurus?


;) <Take this toungue in cheek>

I wouldn't scoff if it was the same Ford used in a Nascar event. I can't remember for sure but I believe that a good new chassis for use in Nascar was somewhere in the neighborhood of $400,000...thats sans engine, drivetrain, etc....

Based on that I'd call the ratios just about right.

celticfrost 04-11-06 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by edzo
because Hincapie just lost his chance in teh Paris Roubaix because his Trek fork head snapped and his handlebars went haywire sending him face down. this is 2006...recent..

maybe THAT IS WHY you reckon ????


The American was diagnosed with a fracture of about three centimetres between his collarbone and right shoulder on Sunday after he crashed head first when his handlebars came loose at the cobbled Mons-en-Pévèle within 50 kilometres of the race's finish.



the steerer tube just came apart and sheared off right under the stem.


now THAT is Trek Professional Kwality :eek:

^^Fork head snaps (on a previously crashed) Trek bike and Trek is crap.^^

A Trek wins the DTF 7 years running and Trek is ___________ .

The fork head snapping could have happened on any previously crashed bike and 7 TDF's have nothing to do w/ Trek either.

KrisPistofferson 04-11-06 11:26 AM

Bike=car analogies never work, and they invariably degenerate threads into expensive car image posting marathons, which ironically enough IS analogous to penis envy. Stop the madness. Oh, and Cypress sucks.


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